That's because you've never had that level of social abundance.

You don't understand what it's like to be having a 9/10 blow you every night, and to be able to go out and sleep with other 9/10's when you want. You're just not there.

Ask yourself, seriously, who speaks about "keeping" women and who speaks about women as if they're no big deal.

Heck, you still call them 9's and 10's like it matters lol. I call them chicks, Jack, RC etc call them girls. Why? Because we're not the one holding them up in high regard like their hotness matters.

A guy can have women throwing themselves at him on a daily basis but that doesn't mean that he has an abundance mentality.

lol, that's a load of bullshit. Hotness does matter. If it didn't, all these guys on here who can get 4's and 5's wouldn't have oneitis for anything over a 7.

Why is it, Neo, that your posts are chock full of platitudes, but never actually reveal specific details about women in your life, or specific situations you encountered?

Is it because you don't have women in your life? Because if you did, these details would organically, even accidentally sift into your advice here. Instead, we're treated to the usual "nothing matters, I don't give a fuck" lecture.

Don't take this the wrong way, but you use a lot of words to say very little. And in that little, there is absolutely no personal anecdotes, which makes it look like you're an armchair warrior.

I'll give the OP's who struggle here credit: they post very specific details that show that they actually talk to women. But you and Jack? You guys are the king of bland, generic advice without ever talking about specific situations in your own life. Are you not proud of the women in your life? Are you not amused by specific, funny social encounters you may have had?

But you and Jack? You guys are the king of bland, generic advice without ever talking about specific situations in your own life. Are you not proud of the women in your life? Are you not amused by specific, funny social encounters you may have had?

It does, though. It's the same thing.

This forum was designed to help men overcome dealing with attractive women who have had abundance mentality their entire lives. Most men do not have this mentality. It's why women do most of the flaking, and most of the dumping. They can choose who, when, and where based on their day to day whims. This is abundance, this is abundance mentality.

There is no Jedi Mind Trick "abundance mentality" where you don't have a lot of attractive people willing to sleep with you. That's called a "poser".

Losing a hot girl, and then saying "I don't give fuck, it's all good man" and going two months without getting laid is not abundance mentality.

That's losing.

However, losing a hot girl, and saying "I don't give a fuck, it's all good man" and then hanging out with a beautiful women that night, or that week, is abundance.

Arch, when I was younger it was important for me to let everyone see that Jack, the guy that couldn't get any girls when he was a teenager in high school, could finally get beautiful women.

So am I proud of the women in my life? Not in the way that I need to come to the forum and write about them.

This just shows how little you comprehend. You're like talking to a 3 year old about geometry. You can explain it as clearly as possible but at the end of the day, it's still a 3 year old and just can't grasp it.

So you are saying you get beautiful women now? Because I haven't seen the evidence....

When a man has women in his life every day, he'll talk about them on accident, even if he's trying not to. Which is why it's so weird to never see you or Neo talk about recent interactions with women. I have them every day, so I talk about them everyday (or often anyway).

I won't respond to the rest, because you just got too emotional.

This is another one of your science debates, Jack. It never ends well for you.

When a man has women in his life every day, he'll talk about them on accident, even if he's trying not to. Which is why it's so weird to never see you or Neo talk about recent interactions with women. I have them every day, so I talk about them everyday (or often anyway).

I dated a chick who lived across the st from her parents. On the 2nd date I was at her place and her dad stopped by to fix something. So i met the dad, 2 dates in. It was simple, chit chat and that was it. It wasn't like actually "meeting" the dad, and when things got more serious, then I met the parents at dinner. If you see it as a big deal, you'll make it one. If you see it just as a party and her brother is just like anyone else there it wouldnt be.

Can't agree on the unicorn part as I've dated and date many hot women who don't play games. And when I did date hot women who played games it was because I played games. For eg, if youre a guy who uses the fact that other girls like you to get women, then you're gonna find the women who like showing you that there are so many guys who like them. When I stopped using that, I probably lost a lot of chicks who like that, but I started to get a lot of girls who didn't play those games. I can honestly say for the past 6 or so years I haven't used mind games with a girl and have dated hotter girls in that time frame. I haven't had to deal with a shit test, I haven't had to deal with jealousy or any of that. Sure, I've dealt with girls and an irrational fight once in a while, but they were sensible enough to acknowledge they were being irrational and it didn't become a habit. I started to keep shit simple and just be honest. I like you, you like me. We dont need games to have good sex and we dont need games to have fun.

I was surprised when I dated hot girls and found out that their ex's were typically regular dudes. Sure, many girls have the "alpha" guy on their resume, but when they meet someone through their social circle or work, its usually because "he was quirky and I liked that" or "he made me laugh.

As choc said women have always been reading vapid topics. And yes I am in relationship for 6 months. The world hasn't changed since then and I haven't stopped interacting with real women and people. I've met gangbang women 12 years ago and gangbang women a few months ago. But I wouldn't say that's most women. I've dated women from online, day game, night game, social circle game, work, college girls, single mothers, professional girls, waitresses in many different states and cities. Different races as well. The KK Idol types I rarely came across as well as the hard-core feminist types. Certain traditional values are disappearing or getting harder to find amongst women but that isn't the same as saying most women are these fuck for money types of man bashers.

Actually, come to think of it, the one indian girl I dated had a friend who had a white gf but I digress.

Either:
1. There are Indian guys getting white girls
or
2. There are no indian guys getting white girls.

If there are none, either you give up or be the first. Its that simple

Lol, well as custodian....here are a few quotes from Jack and N2 on women in their lives:

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For example, I grew a goatee a few years back and I loved how it looked on me. All of a sudden I noticed women staring at me everywhere I went. In my mind it was the goatee. This girl that I dated for a few weeks, who approached me, eventually told me that I'd look better without it. But I liked it and it gave me a confidence boost, like you liked your watch and it gave you a boost as well.


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All good you're into black guys. Judgment free zone here homie.


The black chicks kinda 2/10 to me. I've dated several, one of which I was with for over 6 years, a complete dime piece.


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I dated someone like this for 3 years and it was traumatizing, to say the least. I would often exit the relationship for her only to return (and me to allow her back in). That was our cycle. I wanted more, and sought a stronger connection, but every time I did she'd pull away, often diminishing me, using shame as a tool, and any other way she could keep me at a distance including going radio silent for days on end (brutal).

I know you like this girl but is it worth your health and wellbeing?


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I'm 40, and started seeing a 25 y.o.. I've dated many younger women none of them having any issue whatsoever, in fact most seeming to have a preference for older males, not surprisingly. It's often them who have concerns that I'll have an issue with them being as young as they are.


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I suppose it could be like that in small towns. Where I live and the cities I've visited, female bartenders are a dime a dozen. The ones that I've dated get pursued a lot by men, but the way I approach them is not any different than any other woman.


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Several of the women I've dated have (by no fault of their own). I've yet to have one who withheld where she'd lived 1 month in.

Seriously give your head a shake.


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Pretty much every single one of my LTRs (I've had 6 spanning a year all the way up to 7) have been from cold approaches. I've never dated anyone from work, or to my recollection university even. I kinda like a woman who has a few core commonalities but beyond that a lot of different interests to help me broaden my own experiences.


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Sounds like my ex. I am still recovering from it 4+ months later...

The best parts were where she threatened my female friend to NOT invite me over in the evening again, months after we'd broken up, the contacting the police to tell them i was harassing her, listing herself on a sugar daddy dating site (guess a whore is a whore), and her making her own t-shirts with statements on them directed at me that she'd wear in the gym we both trained at.


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Gym chicks are easy to game. My ex I found at my gym just be careful as if she's a psycho you may have to leave gyms as I had to do.

Just do to stare at them, fly under the radar ask to work in and idle chat w them as they're used to guys trying to pick them up in the gym. Be humble but also understand you're not gonna escalate fast it may take a few encounters for her to be fully comfortable where u guys then set up some workouts together and take it from there. I've trained w so many hotties I had a rep at my gym, dated a few and serious rel w one but I'm also stupid jacked and usually take the mentor role helping.


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It's funny how guys think I'm screwing every girl I train with. I ve worked out with maybe 7 or more hotties from my gym within the past year. I come off to them as disarming, I dont stare at their ass and tits (at least obviously) like most guys do, and more often then not they want to workout - hell I had this young one tell me she wanted to take me to her place and f*ck the sh*t outta me. I find gym chicks very easy to approach as anything with practice, just don't be a creepo about it and you'll find most of them drop their guard pretty quick. Know when to book too (not hang around too much if she seems more interested in working out).


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And I think your goal is to help us exude sex appeal through an expression of body language. Women read body language like it was their first language, so little things can inadvertently cause DLV. For instance when I first started the walking test, I realized that when I approached people I would inadvertently touch my face. Women view that as a dishonest action subconsciously, and they would have been correct because I wasn't truly confident in the walk. Your body language can make you or break you.


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Not that I want to go back and forth with you because I don't. When I said she approached me, means that I didn't do the approaching. Therefore she initiated the contact in order for us to get close. So right now the only advice I could give is wait for them to contact you.


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However, I do know how women act. I've been the guy that a girl will talk negatively behind my back but at the same time she wants to introduce me to her parents. I've been the guy that a girl would say negative things about one of my friends and expressing their disinterest in him and then they later would be in long term relationships with them. That's why I believe that the rule of thumb should be is go with their actions and not words.


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To say that a woman will hit you up later because you did this is reaching. I've been flaked on, never reached out to the girl afterwards and have been hit up later. I can easily say that women love it when a man doesn't chase her and causes her to chase instead. Or I can say that a woman will see that I don't play games and looks at me as being more attractive than the other guys out there.


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I have women that try immature games with me all of the time. I don't give them the time of day once it becomes apparent. I even tell them that I don't play games afterwards and experience has taught me that they conform.


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I tell a girl that I don't play games because it's the truth. I don't have time for them. There's plenty of other girls that are just as hot or hotter that won't play games.


I'll stop there. Each one a different thread and from a simple search.

I went to a bar the other night to watch a Cubs game. A ridiculously hot bartender I've flirted with before is working. She's pouring a beer from a tap, has her back to me, then twists her head and smiles at me and says "hi" way over the top, lol, while her ass is facing me. She had her hair braided, too.

What was I thinking in that moment? How bad I wanted her.

The lack of consistent anecdotes about approaches and the day-to-day omission of woman-based anecdotes in your advice paints a picture.

Neo, I do actually appreciate some of the personal anecdotes. I will respond to them in time.

But, and I mean no offense, I still don't think you and Jack have women in your lives. Or if you do, it's few and far between. The lack of consistent anecdotes about approaches and the day-to-day omission of woman-based anecdotes in your advice paints a picture.

If someone comes in asking for advice, they need advice tailored to their scenario. Not to hear some story about what you did on some random night.

When you give these stories that arent close to the OP's in most cases it comes off as bragging.