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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:38 am 
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What you have explained here is what you have interpreted through her explanation. She said she's not in love and you assume that it's from her depression. You think her age has something to do with it. You think her relationship experience has something to do with it. You think her life experience has something to do with it. All of those things can be true but at the same time all of those reasons can be protecting your ego and hopefully your ego isn't too big to understand that. Perhaps it's just as simple as she said...she wasn't in love with you.
Damn, I've been agreeing with Jack a lot today.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:39 am 
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You people need to understand that if it doesnt work the first time, it wont work the second either.
not always true. I know couples who had a rocky start, and they're together ten years later.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:30 am 
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@jackzero- first of all: talk of being "the man" or not being respected as "the man" do not resonate with me. i live in the year 2017 and see a relationship between two equal individuals with the same basic needs. these "manlyness issues" often come from people who are the most insecure about that very subject.

the reason for the break up was two fold: her depression reached a peak at that time and anyone who knows about this issue knows that it is a serious mental disease where individuals are unable to put their life in proper perspective. which is why any clinical psychologist will confirm that people are always advised to refrain from substantial decisions in phases of depression. the second reason was the "not feeling butterflies" aspect. part of that most definitely comes from the depression issue, but what also plays into this is lack of experience concerning long relationships. she is substantially younger and never had a relationship that exceeded 2 months. someone with that little life experience will never know that these "butterflies" will always fade with time whilst other aspects in a relationship will grow. so if you are expecting my to fault her for these circumstances, then i will most certainly not do that. my ego is big enough to understand that someone can be at a different stage in life and still needs to experience and learn things without me taking anything personal. it however is an entirely different question whether traing to be in a relationship with someone under these circumstances is a wise idea. but that never was the question at hand or the issue of this thread.
Agree with Jack. It cant just be a 14 month relationship ran its course? You could have given your entire story, she couldve been 45 no depression...sometimes the chick loses feelings. But your reasons are all external forces broke you two up... You think the depression and inexperience led to the breakup...ever think maybe you got her BECAUSE her life was shitty? Or BECAUSE she was inexperienced? Cant just say the external forces are the reason for the negative...they could very well be what kept it going.
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@neo87- i have come to terms with the relationship being over a long time ago and never even raised a little finger to eve try to get back together again. that being said, i have no reason to boycott my ex, not to listen how things have changed, what she has learned since etc. that is what adults do- interact, converse and see if there is a basis. so i have no idea where this notion from you and other users is coming from that i want her back. i never said that. i am just curious to know what her agenda is. i am aware of the problems at hand, but i am not ruling out anything, i am just keeping my options open. i also find the myth funny that it never works the second time around...i actually have two couples as friends, one couple being married by now, that broke up at some stage and got back together and have stayed happy over years since. one cant generalize this sort of stuff in one direction or the other.
But you KNOW things havent changed. See man, you're reaching for hope in this. If you really think it was her depression...how are you going to listen to her about what she's learned and all that...when you said you know things are WORSE for her? You cant just say it was her depression...its worse now..but still you want to see where it goes...you're just another guy hoping his ex takes him back. I could even kinda see if you had said your ex is better now, changed her life and is happy now and she hit you up. THEN that would kinda make sense that you'd want to try at least knowing she handled her shit. But you're saying she's WORSE now. I'll give you she broke up with you largely due to depression...why on earth would you entertain the possibility when the factor that broke you 2 up is WORSE now?! And I'll even give you she's young and inexperienced...how could things change in 6 months...she's still young and inexperienced...just has a shittier life now.

I agree depression is a serious issue and I'll give you that...but then if its so serious do you really think it could be cured in 6 months? You're not hoping she is better and open to the possibility of seeing if it could work...you KNOW things are worse and want her back. Thats the only reason I could think of why you'd entertain this.
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i also find the myth funny that it never works the second time around...i actually have two couples as friends, one couple being married by now, that broke up at some stage and got back together and have stayed happy over years since. one cant generalize this sort of stuff in one direction or the other.
Yeah, there are couples where 1 of them cheated and they got married and lived happily ever after. There are couples where one of them was abusive for years, stopped and they're happy now. But I dont give advice based on these long shots. And I dont know why you'd think it could work, when months ago when she had less depression it didnt. Months ago when she was at the same level of experience it didnt work. I'd love if you told me your ex was better and from your convo on the phone you got hope because she changed. How she was in a better place, had gained perspective and assessed her emotions...had her life now in order and a plan for how to deal with things when they go shitty in the future....and you 2 were meeting AFTER she was better...then MAYBE I could say, sure go ahead. If she had broken up with you because she was an alcoholic, would you really want to hear ppl say sure give it another go 6 months later when she's a bigger alcoholic? Sorry man, a LDR and age/experience gapped relationship is tough and you can say depression and whatever else led to the breakup and lost feelings but frankly, I wouldnt advise a young chick with major depression to be in a long distance relationship. If she's to be in a healthy relationship with her condition, she needs someone closeby. Not 6 hours away.

On a real talk note, lets call it what it is. You're not concerned about this chick, you're just hopeful that her circumstances and loneliness cause her to get back with you. If you really cared for her, you wouldnt see her when she's going through all this and even CONSIDER the option of being a couple. You'd want her to not be dependant on you for her issues, you'd want her better BEFORE adding another thing to her life. You wouldnt fret about meeting in your city, BECAUSE SHE ENDED IT...why would that matter...thought there were no hard feelings? thought you understood her situation?...why would her ending it dictate where you meet? Sorry man, you're maximizing major issues such as depression and experience, then forgetting about them when it means she's coming over. You're the guy who sees the drunk girl stumbling out of the bar and you offer her a ride. You're just after what YOU want.


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You people need to understand that if it doesnt work the first time, it wont work the second either.
not always true. I know couples who had a rocky start, and they're together ten years later.
That doesn't mean they're happy. It also doesn't mean they wouldn't have been happier or better of with someone else.
Or it can be.
Either way, realistically speaking most people that 'get back together' do it out of need, not want.

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I hope your ego doesnt stand in the way of you understanding what neo is saying to you, because this kind of talk should not be free.

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what i find most fascinating about this thread is that 99% of the replies entirely ignore the raised issue at hand. and even worse: most of it is based on assumptions where most participants dont even bother to ask questions, which makes it seem people have a certain agenda here. i have zilch problem with the fact that she could have fallen out of love for no reason whatsoever. it really doesnt matter. its just very amusing because about 50% of her friends have gotten contact with me in the past few months and have exactly expressed what is going on in her head, what is going on with her etc coming directly from her and not on a basis of their interpretation. the bottom line is that at the time she was in a very depressed state and just generally couldnt feel happy about anything and was confused about virtually everything in her life. my guess is that hardly anyone in this thread knows anything about depression in the context of relationships and how this state clouds minds and emotions. has this changed? definitely not! is this a basis? probably not! does it matter? no! because this never was the issue of this thread. all i wanted to know was what others thought her agenda was.


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As already stated...how is anyone going to know what motive your emotionally messed up ex has? Like seriously do you really think someone here can have an idea on what a person with mental issues is thinking? Seriously


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As already stated...how is anyone going to know what motive your emotionally messed up ex has? Like seriously do you really think someone here can have an idea on what a person with mental issues is thinking? Seriously...come on man...we have no idea what she is like, what exactly this "depression" is, what is messed up in her life, how she deals with her "depression". Just vague, she has depression and she said she lost feelings. Your expecting an idea of what she's thinking while being so vague especially when a mental issue is involved...what exactly do you want to hear?
Either a)

She wants you back (Havent read anything specific that supports that)

b) she just wants to feel better (again, have no idea who this chick is)

You want us to generalize your ex without providing any details and when she has a mental issue right now, but when we generalize YOU, its a problem. To answer your question, on whether shes testing the waters or not:
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bottom line: some of you are being far too black and white with this.


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what i find most fascinating about this thread is that 99% of the replies entirely ignore the raised issue at hand. and even worse: most of it is based on assumptions where most participants dont even bother to ask questions, which makes it seem people have a certain agenda here. i have zilch problem with the fact that she could have fallen out of love for no reason whatsoever. it really doesnt matter. its just very amusing because about 50% of her friends have gotten contact with me in the past few months and have exactly expressed what is going on in her head, what is going on with her etc coming directly from her and not on a basis of their interpretation. the bottom line is that at the time she was in a very depressed state and just generally couldnt feel happy about anything and was confused about virtually everything in her life. my guess is that hardly anyone in this thread knows anything about depression in the context of relationships and how this state clouds minds and emotions. has this changed? definitely not! is this a basis? probably not! does it matter? no! because this never was the issue of this thread. all i wanted to know was what others thought her agenda was.
What do you want OP? I said in the very beginning that she might want you back. You didn't give any description of what the relationship was like but you did tell us everything that was wrong with her and how that may have influenced her decision. You didn't describe what the relationship was like. You didn't describe how you treated her. You didn't describe anything that mattered except the things that cushioned your ego. So what do you want? If you want us to do better then you've got to do better.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:10 am 
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its just very amusing because about 50% of her friends have gotten contact with me in the past few months and have exactly expressed what is going on in her head, what is going on with her
Jesus christ man, let it go.

There are only two things you know to be 100% true:

1. She dumped you.
2. Now she's reaching out to you.


The rest is speculation and ego-protection.

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etc coming directly from her and not on a basis of their interpretation. the bottom line is that at the time she was in a very depressed state and just generally couldnt feel happy about anything and was confused about virtually everything in her life.
bla bla bla you keep repeating yourself, you're caught in a loop.

She may have been depressed, she may have been confused. But in all that, she was still coherent enough to dump you.


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my guess is that hardly anyone in this thread knows anything about depression in the context of relationships and how this state clouds minds and emotions. has this changed? definitely not! is this a basis? probably not! does it matter? no! because this never was the issue of this thread. all i wanted to know was what others thought her agenda was.
You can't control what she does. You can't fix her head. All you can do is show up, every day at 100% fit, chill, fun. Be the guy who when she sees a text, she smiles with positivity because you're not tossing Debbie Downer convos at her.

If you want her, then approach her as a fun, chill man very much in the moment. You might get her back. Just please stop the inane, negative rambling about her depression and her friend's gossip, and focus on being the best man you can be, everyday. That's all you can control. It is all you will ever be able to control. You're using her (potential) mental issues as a way to avoid analyzing yourself.

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