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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:25 am 
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Hey Guys, so I haven't posted here in a while.

I went out last night and had one of my worse night's yet. I just seemed to notice that women didn't seem to gravitate towards me like they did with other men. I got the "I have a boyfriend" bull three times. I don't know what it is or what exactly I did wrong and that's the most frustrating part - it's like i'm giving off some sort of a vibe which women don't like, especially on the dance floor.

I think I signal too much interest, i'm generally very happy and upbeat but I feel some women mistake this for over enthusiasm. My question is how should you behave on the dancefloor, what sort of vibe should you have? I'm always cautious about signalling too much interest but I still want to signal some.

What are the three most important things to know about picking up women?

On a side note, I met a beautiful girl last week and we were texting and chatting on the phone, really hitting it off and getting all the good signs. Then I escalate it to try and meeting and she said "Aw I'm really busy this week..." How would you respond to that?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:29 pm 
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I've noticed when I go out, I just have a mindset saying;

"I'm gona have some fun tonight, its gona be KICK - ASS"

Women are more receptive to me. As to where I have the mindset;

"I'm gona fuck tonight."

Just go out n focus on having fun, you'll notice women will become more receptive.

Maybe your seen to have overenthusiastic cuz of your body language maybe? Moving your hand around alot while you talk or explain something maybe? Try and stay collected. As for the weird vibe on the dance floor, uhm, I really wouldn't know *shrugs* I mean, try not to dry hump her I guess?

For the whole "Awww, I'm busy this week." - Blow it off, but in a confident way saying "Kay w.e" and try again next week saying "Wanna have some fun? Or is your week gona be boring and dull like last week?" - I usually use something like that, they come around. I really hope this helps. -


3 Most Important things about Pick - up for me would be.

Have a strong inner game
Be Confident and Alpha
Live in the moment and have fun


Hope this all helps. - Redkid

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:15 pm 
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Thanks for the response.

Thinking about it now, I had far too much to drink last night which probably wrecked my game. I was going up to girls on the dance floor and asking direct which went down like a lead balloon.

So I guess my main sticking point is how do you show interest without coming across as try hard or needy? I'm finding on the dance floor this is very hard to do, and I end up creeping them out. It's not that im pushy at all but I just can't seem to get anywhere with this right now.

I'm a pretty handsome guy and I see these average looking guys getting all the girls - the girls just flock to them and I'm left thinking wtf!

I've just had faint glimmers of success since I started with the PUA stuff, and against my better instincts i'm starting to feel inadequate. I know I should be confident and all the rest of it but when success has been so limited for so long it's hard to stay positive and go out with the "I don't give a f*** attitude" when I really do.

Any advice again is appreciated.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:27 pm 
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The best answer I can tell you is to not give a shit. If you don't give a shit then you automatically will show un-neediness etc.

The reason it changed for you as far as I can tell from your post was that you went out the first times, got a lot of good responses, and expected the same to happen now. You are not successfull all the time you know, some days are worse then others:)


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So I guess my main sticking point is how do you show interest without coming across as try hard or needy? I'm finding on the dance floor this is very hard to do, and I end up creeping them out.
Interest is like a balanced give/take relationship. Giving her too much interest too soon and not spreading it out is putting her on the pedestal. She hasn't given you any interest yet and you are already putting the ball in her court. She knows 'she has' you and now she controls where the relationship goes. On the other side of the spectrum, if all you do is take take take take and take interest from her without reciprocation, she will get the impression you are not into her and either become discouraged or become too try hard for your attention.

As with everything, balance is key. Tease her a little bit and if she flirts with you as a result, that is her way of giving you some interest. Now you can give interest back by also flirting or, depending on obviousness of the flirt, brush it off and do it again. You are now getting her to show interest in you, and you then have control of how the value is circulated. Don't be greedy now, and remember to give her some cookies too :wink: .

As far as dance/club game goes, I am pretty much a regular at some of the clubs on my campus. How I go about the dance floor has worked for me a good majority of the time so try this out and maybe you will have some luck/skill with it. I go onto the floor by myself (unless a previous girl follows me on then I just dance with her) and I begin to dance to the music kind of in an open area. Either I dance well to the music or I just goof around for some laughs. The second option usually works pretty well. As you are dancing, position yourself in front of the girl you want and make sure there is some distance between you and her. While you are still dancing, simply extend a hand towards her and with your fingers, motion her over as if to say "come here". The majority of the time she will want to join in on your fun and she will come over without question. On the occasion she ignores you, who cares. You are having a good time anyways and surely another girl on the floor will want to join you.
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I've just had faint glimmers of success since I started with the PUA stuff, and against my better instincts i'm starting to feel inadequate. I know I should be confident and all the rest of it but when success has been so limited for so long it's hard to stay positive and go out with the "I don't give a f*** attitude" when I really do.
First you need to find out why your success has been limited. Is it inner game preventing you from reaching your potential? Perhaps you have solid inner game, but for some reason, you just can't get the hook. If that is it, try going out of your element and trying some new material/method/"whatever-you-prefer" you may other wise be uncomfortable with. Even if that doesn't work for you, you should try it before shooting it down. It may also help you realize what you need to work on in your normal game... like an outside view of it. You said it's hard to go out with an "I don't give a f*** attitude" when you don't have it... so why force it? You need to get that "I don't give a f*** attitude" to really use it.


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