where is a good place to take a girl on dates?
im not talking specific here, in general, like:
restaurants
movies
etc.. so where?

what do i need to build in order for a girl to agree to come on a date?
and what to you need to build more of in the dates themselves?

Anywhere. It does not matter. I've taken a girl to walmart with me because I needed to buy dish soap.

If i ever take a girl out to dinner: the following problem happens

1) if you pay, she thinks you are a wuss
2) if you dont pay she thinks your cheap.

I pay ahead of time, before i even pick her up and throw in a nice tip for the waiter. After words he'll say "Johnnyc does NOT pay in our establishment!"

hahahahaha! genius!

haha yeah that is a great idea. thanks for that

very good idea.....only problem is,
how do you know how much to pay??

say she orders something MORE then you expected and your bill is MORE then what you payed.......that wouldnt be a good situation the waiter then coming over, saying you must pay the rest....

but i guess you could always add it up in your head while eating and if it is more excuse yourself to the bathroom and then pay the extra to the waiter...


but a very good idea none the less

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well figure out what she likes to eat and find a place Suited to that. research prices ahead of time and plan accordingly. Theres some classy places that are not expensive but none the less has the perfect enviroment. Set the mood and you should be smooth sailing from there. The advice giving in the above post is also great in conjunction. Do this and you be set!. good luck let us know how it goes.

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I don't really do dates... I'll go shopping with a girl, shoot some pool, or just walk around the town and point out random stuff to make fun of together. It's far more casual than setting up a dinner date or going to a movie, and you'll get a lot more girls doing hangout type stuff. You don't even need money to go shopping, just go and pick out random stuff and tease her about the silly things grls buy. Try on clothes you'd never wear in a million years, drag her into the lingerie section... use your imagination. Also, the strangers game is pretty fun. You point someone out and she has to make up a story about who they are, what they're doing in town etc, then she picks someone for you. I got the idea from shaun of the dead, the bit where Ed is telling stories about the different people in the pub. It's great fun.

The only thing you should be concentrating on when you're out with a girl is having a good time. That's it. Don't try to build comfort or any of that stuff, that happens naturally from being in each others' company. Just have fun. I like to tease girls and push them around, poke them and just generally be childish. If I'm playing pool I like to do stupid things to put her off, hip check her to make her miss shots and stuff like that. Use your imagination and play around.

For starters, you don't want to be going out for dinners (especially expensive ones) until you're either in a relationship or are confident that's the direction you're headed in with this girl. If so, GQ did a little write-up on this (BTW I think every guy should read GQ - regardless of your age or style, a lot of the stuff in it is universal), and I've used it for dates or just dinners where I want to pick up the tab and not make a big fuss:

In advance, give the waiter or the maitre d' your credit card, and tell them to add 20% (or whatever is a solid tip where you are) and just bring you the receipt at the end of the night. You've got to trust the place you're at, but I swear by this. It helps avoid looking like you're putting on a show by paying, you still look like a star, and you get great service the whole night. It's a cool feeling when you get to walk out of the place like you own it...

Shopping. Buying stuff makes people feel good. So does picking out stuff they'd like to buy. It's a psychological thing.

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