Hello everyone, first post here. I am obviously a bit sceptical so I will be happy to get some motivation.

Could you share if game has drastically changed your success with women and how did that happen? And please share only if it's a verifiable case (e.g. it's you who did it or a close friend of yours and not a famous PUA you have heard of).

I am 24 and learned more about game recently. I have slept with 6 women, 4 of which during a relationship, so I am not horrible at it, but I'd still consider myself an AFC. My goal is to reach a state where I have solid rotation (3+ girls that are always up for sex) and sleep with a new girl every month on average (thus that's my modest definition of "really good").

I'd be happy to get answers from guys who were pretty bad in the beginning and are not very handsome.

Check out Dragula's first post. He's probably the best documented guy on the forum that basically tells his story from start to finish by learning pickup.

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Thanks a lot.

Could you give me any specific thread that I can check?

My favorite of his are the couch surfing threads.

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There was never a point in my life in which I wasn't able to get women, however I am leaps and bounds above where I used to be. It's kind of like asking " Has anyone gone from being terrible at basketball to being really good at it? . Everyone has.. MJ couldn't make his high school basketball team the first few tryouts. They thought he didn't have it.. He wasn't born with it, he worked for it. This can happen in any field.

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Hard work beats natural talent unless natural talent works hard. It's like asking if a naturally scrawny guy ever gained a lot of muscle by going to the gym - what do you think?

I agree about Dragula, too. I once read once of his old threads where he got annoyed because people wouldn't give serious feedback on some shitty line he'd thought up... but by the time I joined the forum he was fucking more girls than probably any other guy here, honestly.

I once made a thread asking guys to give a quick summary of their journey, and I can't specifically remember posts on it etc, but I have something in my mind about MajikalMethod (think his name's Jay) having a good story, which leads me to encourage you to do some work in sales; it'll help MASSIVELY with talking to women, believe me. I remember n2TheVoid talking a little about how he started out and I'm not sure if he's willing to talk about it in detail but he started out quiet shitty. If I remember rightly, I don't think Oceanx and RC were always good with women, either.

I'm exclusive with a girl at the moment, but when I wasn't I did pretty good when it came to women... amazing in comparison to me a few years ago, lol.

I know why you're really asking - you don't want to waste your time until you know 100% that it works. To that, I'd have to ask if you've ever heard of Schrodingers cat?

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lulz, I had to do a quick search, but they are some funny stories!

Seems like his 'game' was basically to play drinking games with traveller girls and his wingman. Play 'truth or dare' and stuff and use that game to get sexual. Interetsing method! Bit like how 13 year olds get laid at parties, but doing it as a 30 year old guy instead!

But I do tihnk that it takes a certain type of girl to couch surf, so I imagine it must be fairly easy to bang them girls if you are decent looking

I said those are my favorite. He has way more game than that.

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Years back I had a guy in my three day bootcamp who had severe social anxiety and was a virgin. I helped him as much as he could but due to the severity of his anxiety he didnt do well. I never figured he would get very good but two years later I ran into him and he was a legit player. We ended up going out to a bar that night and he killed it.

So yes its possible.

I was an AFC at 17 and could barely get a phone number, I was completely clueless.

I bought my first dating book that year and it completely changed my life. I walked into a shop a week later and got the shop assistant's phone number, something which before reading the book would have paralyzed me with anxiety, fear and every other trademark emotion of the AFC.

Now, years later I can easily get dates, and I still have a small number of girls who still snapchat/SPAM me for hook-ups. They are starting to become distant now that they see I don't want to take it further with them (which I made clear from the start).

So yes, it works.
The real question is will you still want that when you get it and know what it's really like? You've mentioned the number of girls you'd like to sleep with/have on "stand-by". Been there, done that and got sick of it quite quickly. I'm not trying to discourage you, just telling you what I personally found when I more or less achieved what you mentioned.
That's just my experience though, go for it and if nothing else, you will have learnt a lot and bedded lots of women.

I've never looked back

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Stop thinking "game" and start to think making yourself more attractive. If you're an attractive guy, girls will literally fall into your lap. What you do with them from there is "game."

The gym is a great place to start. There's girls who want to sleep with me just because I have big muscles. Before people start arguing... does that turn some girls off? Sure. But I've got plenty of options without those girls.

You can do a lot to change your physical appearance. Things like hair style and accessories can totally change you. If you don't like the shape of your face, grow a beard. Go see a Professional STYLIST for a hair cut. Not Joe the barber who uses his #2 blade on you or the new girl who just started at great clips.

As you work out more, your clothes are going to start to fit you better. And as your body looks better and better, you'll want to wear a bit tighter clothes. Not Jersey Shore douche bag tight. Just tight enough so a girl can tell you've got a better body than most guys. I will also note, being jacked and shredded alone will not get you laid. But it definitely fucking helps. Show it off as much as you can without lookin like a tool.

Get some new hobbies. You can make up for any ugliness by being interesting. I'd be lying to you if I told you a guy who plays guitar isn't sexy as fuck to most women. It's pretty easy to learn and it'll help you with a lot of other things. I get "weird" if I don't play my guitar for a few days. I feel people much better.

I don't know many women whos eyes don't light up and they squirm in their seat a little bit if you mention John Mayer. Keith Richards is ugly as fuck.... literally a troll. But I can promise you that he has smashed more pussy in his life than you or I could ever imagine. Doesn't have to be guitar. I just making suggestions. Do something interesting with your time. It will also help you eliminate any neediness when you actually do meet a girl. You need things in your life you love more than women. Things you can always go back to if you're alone and single. Neediness is the ugliest trait a man can carry.

When it comes to "game," honestly dude, that's mostly about not being afraid to get sexual and managing women and your dating life to make yourself happy. I can almost argue that your social skills don't mean much.... although not being awkward is just another one of those things that reall helps. Plus, if you're a cool guy, girls will want to hang out with you more than just once lol Not wasting time on girls who are just a waste of time and being aggressive with the girls who want you. A lot of guys have some deep seeded sexual issues cause of their parents or religious beliefs and what not. These are some things that you might have to work on.

Getting really good in bed helps too. That comes with practice... it's a snow ball effect. You fuck a few girls, you get better so it's more natural, you make a few girls cum so hard that they shake and scream, your confidence goes through the roof. I don't have "approach anxiety" because I don't have any "sexual anxiety." I can talk to a girl and know I can most likely fuck her better and make her cum harder than her boyfriend. They can see it in your eyes.

This "transformation from AFC to whatever" that you're trying to go through isn't as complicated as you're making it out to be. Right now, the guy you are, girls don't want to sleep with you. So, be a guy that girls want to sleep with. Hope this helps.

Thank you all for your replies and encouraging words!
There is some truth behind what you're assuming, but I've already decided to make this step. I am pretty sure that everything being taught on this forum works, but I was wondering if it could bring a drastic change and possibly hear a story of how it happened to you.
I am aware that I might get sick of it. I spent my last 4 years of my life seriously devoted to my education and thus I am after a change in my lifestyle (more parties, experiences and sex with different women). However, I am aware that this most probably won't last long. It's just that it is currently at the back of my head and there are apparently some demons I need to fight. I actually hope that I get fed up with it and continue pursuing the more important goals in my life with a clear and peaceful mind.

This answer was totally spot on and aligned with my current state of mind! It does very accurately touch my plans for personal and lifestyle change!

Those are exactly the things that I am currently focused on. I cannot really get a good hairstyle, cause my hairline is receding. However, I don't really complain and just shave it all off. Plus, I really won the genetic lottery in the muscles department. After 3 months in people start to ask me if I am on steroids, and I am not even taking protein shakes or having a diet. So I hope that being shredded + shaved head + my deep masculine voice will do the trick. I just need to commit a bit to going to the gym, cause I haven't been very consistent with it in the past.

Furthermore, my career is going very well, so I guess that could also help. I will finish my education at top 10 school very soon and will start working as a software engineer at Facebook. Once I start earning decent money, I will make huge changes when it comes to clothes and style.

In terms of hobbies and lifestyle, I completely agree as well and already have some plans after my graduation. I considered getting into music, but I think I'd prefer extreme sports more (or may be find a way to combine both). I really like the idea of wake boarding and paragliding. I will be doing those for myself, cause I always thought they're fun, but from what I've heard, women find them attractive as well. I also like reading and travelling (been to 10 countries in the last year) and I guess those could easily create conversation topics.

When it comes to game, I don't think I am horrible. I am able to interact with different kind of people and most of them consider me funny and intelligent. I easily build rapport and people talk nice of me. However, I have one huge problem and that is being sexual. I never end up in the friend zone, cause I have a rule of expressing my desires pretty early on, but I often get rejected and now in hindsight I think it's because I tried to kiss many women without escalating.

Being good in bed is also spot on and I realised that myself recently. I think men who know they're good in bed naturally demonstrate confidence and women are able to sense that. I have felt it myself, but I need more consistency in that regard. The last woman I've had sex with asked me if I could consider her wife material after just couple of casual fucks and stated that this was the best sex she had ever had (and she was pretty experienced). I felt like king for couple of days. However, I haven't gotten laid in the last 6 months, so my confidence in that regard is down again.

But it is amazing how you stated exactly the things that I have been thinking about during the last couple of months. The only thing that you haven't mentioned is the idea of having a crib where I can hang out with people and turn it into a place for regular social gatherings. I will soon have my own place and plan to buy a playstation and hookah, so that I can have people over easily.

Thanks for the input! I guess it was just a sign that I am going into the right direction! I am not just contemplating things in theory - I take actions and at this point everything I do is pretty much related to the aforementioned things. It's just that I am not getting results right now, so I thought I was doing something wrong, but I guess I just need to be persistent.

Is being good in bed basically just having a big cock and being able to last a good amount of time?
I mean, it's not as though one can make their dick do backflips or anything