Today I went out with a girl I know since before I knew about the community. I have kissed her before, and she was in my bed, half naked, but it never came to sex. But thats not the point. I wanted to make her my pivot now, so I told her about pickup, but she wasn't really convinced. She "didn't like my new ego". But I didn't neg her or something, I just spoke a little bit louder than usually and more enthusiastic. I had the feeling that she was attracted to me, but she wouldn't do anything about it, because I said it wouldn't work between us, that's what I actually thought. I thought she was attracted to me, because she mentioned every minute something about me trying to attract her, I just had the impression. I told her about a girl I would meet tomorrow, which is true, and then she got kind of cold. She wouldn't obey anymore The point is: Is the interpretation, that she was attracted to me, then kind of disappointed that I talked about other girls only and didn't try to kiss her instead, correct? Every time I asked her whether she was attracted to me or not she began to laugh and wouldn't give me a real answer but say something ironically like "yes sure" but not in a mean way. When we went home and waited for the bus I told her to sit on my lap and she wouldn't. I asked her how she found the evening and she said it was cool. Actually, when I suggested to leave out of the café she looked quite disappointed. I had the impression that I was just soo funny and talkative in the first half of our "rendezvous" but she told me that she didn't like that. Is this some sort of trying to get back my "old" self, or did she want to make out with me but wouldn't tell it?

She's threatened at this point. She probably thinks thats why you told her about PUA. You haven't had sex with her before, and now you're laying this on her. To her, it sounds like . . . "he's trying hard to have sex with me". My take on this is, she may have felt a slight attraction, but overall, I'd say she's probably LJBFed you. She won't obey, you're not kissing, you haven't fucked. There's no spark there. You need to move on man.

Dear Tripp,

Sometimes I get hungry after sarging, do I bring the girl to the Subways despite the fact that I already escalated and pumped her buying temperature? It's really just about the least sexy place I can think of to bring a hot and bothered HB, the lighting is always too bright and the lines of people too quiet. Any workarounds to this---I really do like Subways, but I can't stand any of the other fast food places.

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Thanks It helped big time Im already top alpha in class.

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Hats off to you man. I really appreciate you taking time to answer our questions.

Can you give me some advice on how to make a thread. I've never had one prepared for any set that I've opened. Just been using canned openers then trying to freestyle it.

How long should a thread be?
Should I memorize a response for every possible response on the sets side?
Could you show me an example of a thread or point me in the right direction?

Thanks Again Bro

L.A. L.A. Recently I have been doing some sarging at the university that I attend, and I think that I am becoming a bit more outcome dependent.

My question, What are some mental exercises that can applied to hold outcome dependency at bay?

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i lust for jessica alba, but now since she is preggers. I am lusting for Nicole!!! It's New Year's Day. It was Ben Franklin who said, "Be always at war with your vices, at peace with your neighbors, and let each new year find you a better man."

Yeah . . . ditch the food and dive into dessert!

Welcome to the forum gsaad.

Making a thread. Ok, think back to conversations you've had with friends. You talk about pretty much anything and everything. You cut threads, jump to a different thread, go back to previous threads, hop all around to different threads, etc.

THAT'S the feeling you want to create in the target. We are all comfortable in that setting. You duplicat that in a set, and magic happens.

Basically, keep in mind the answer for the two different possible directions that the set/target could take with what you throw out there. You shouldn't memorize an entire expected coversation. No way. It needs to flow sponatneously. You just start things off. You start several different threads about things that will emotionally engage the target. You start one, get it going, snip it, jump to another.

The lengths of threads don't matter too much either, because you may not even be finishing them all, anyway. You can use material that's either from current pop culture, or material that's relevant to your own life, as long as you make it interesting. It has to engage her emotions. It has to pull her on a journey. To the point of her not wanting you to stop. Once you've hooked her with it, you're in.

The only real "mental exercise" I can give you is to build your frame stronger. The stronger your frame is, the less you will be concerned with the outcome of each sarge. I've actually got a thread in the PMZ about mental framing, called Frame Control (I think), and am working on a report for the downloads section of the forum on Inner Game and Frame Control.

You strengthen your inner game and, not only will it help you in this particular area of not being attached to the outcome, but it will help in your game overall.

Here's the link to my thread in the PMZ:
frame-control-vt14376.html

Hey L.A.,

What's the best way to tell a girl you don't want her to be your girlfriend, you want multiple women, so that you still can have sex with her? I want to be honest, but I don't want to hurt her feelings. I'm not at this point yet, but I see it coming closer. She writes too many text messages and stuff... And when would be the point to tell her this? When she says she loves me or earlier?

Another senseless question of mine is: Should I come punctual, to early or to late to an appointment? It doesn't seem right to ask such a thing, but hey, that's part of what learning pick-up is about: asking things that are considered to be "obvious" by almost everyone and then learning that you were doing it wrong your entire life.

Btw. I read "The Game" and asked myself how authentic this is. Is Tyler Durden really such a bad person?

Cheers Level

Hey Tripp

Is it ok to be a "nice guy" on a sarge? I try not to buy drinks, dont give them my coat when its cold (got blown out for this one) etc. If I show no signs of neediness and neg them while I give them my coat, will this keep me on the lover and not provider path?

Also, being a bit of a nice guy naturally I dont have it in me to be ignorant. How do I stop the obstacle coming on to me. I have had this happen a lot recently and the target often moves aside to allow the target to come on to me. In the most recent example I teased the target as I always do, but it turned into me and the obstacle double teaming her and the obstacle saw it as us in a team.

Cheers Tripp

Dear Tripp,

1) I remember when I was in middle school some chick just came up to me one day and punched me in the balls. I didn't even know her. Was this an IOI?

2) Do you ever neg girls on their blushing?

3) Peacocking necklaces: silver or gold?

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Hey Tripp, I have a date tonight with my ex. I have no idea where to take her. I was thinking about the beach and walking in the sand but I'm not so sure about that. I'm from the Miami area. Do you have any ideas where else it would be a nice area to take her out?

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About the MLTR's, if NEITHER of you have any expectations of a serious relationship, I don't see a problem. But, if ONE of you starts to expect something more, then obviously you need to have a talk.

How I would personally do this is to let her know that you really think she is cool and you want to continue with her to see what develops, but that you know you aren't ready for an EXCLUSIVE commitment at this point. At least, not until you see how things develop. It should definitely be before she says she loves you, in my opinion.

Your "senseless" question isn't senseless, so don't even think that. It depends on what you are arriving to. Is it work? Always on time or slightly early. Doctor's appt? LOL. They say on time or cancel, so you don't have much choice. Although a few minutes late doesn't usually hurt much. If it 's a party? Yeah, arrive a bit late, IF you want to make an impact with your entrance. Then, you also have to exhibit major confidence on your entrance too. If you can do that, arrive slightly later, and let all eyes rest on you as you walk in.

Well, I don't know Tyler Durden personally, and to be honest, I'm not in much hurry to either. Does that tell you my opinion on him?

On the coat issue. Something I did just this past weekend is this: I didn't take my coat off to give it to the girl, but she "wrapped herself" in it anyway. She stood in front of me, walked in front of me, her back to my chest, and pulled the front of my coat around her sides and held them there. She couldn't zip it up, because the coat isn't big enough to cover us both up, but she had my body heat and then coat wrapped most of the way around her. And, we walked like that. She was just fine with it. It gave us GREAT kino. Try that next time.

Ok, there is a difference between being an alpha and being ignorant. Ignorant equals asshole. I sincerely think you know that, too. So I won't dwell on that. You can't stop the obstacle from coming onto you. But, when you're gaming, if you're giving the obstacle more attention, negging the target slightly, and being more of a "nice guy" to the obstacle than you are the target, it should be building more attraction up in the target than what the obstacle is feeling. However, if the obstacle is still feeling a lot of attraction, then apparently you're flipping a lot of attraction switches automatically, which isn't a bad thing. Just pay attention to what switches you are actually flipping. Then, if you want to quit attracting the obstacles, stop flipping those switches.

What you may be doing is treating the obstacle like you should be treating the target, and treating the target too harshly. Or, it could be your body language toward the obstacle is flipping her switches, and your body language toward the target is shutting her down. Or, it could be that the target and obstacle are such good friends that the target knows the obstacle wants you and doesn't want to get in the way. Could be a lot of different things. But, what you have control over is your own body language and the switches that you are flipping. You have the choice of flipping the switches or not flipping the switches. Even if you may be doing it unconsciously. That just means paying closer attention to yourself.

For your most recent example, I wasn't there in that situation, but it sounds to me like you could have still turned that "double team" into more attraction in the target. By body language, by EC with the target, things like that. Who do you make more EC with? The target? Or the obstacle? At that point, in your example, it should be the target.