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Anecdotes are called anecdotes when they aren't good enough to be evidence. Actual evidence is hundreds of cases, not your five or six observations because again you likely ignore cases that go against your world view.
This.
Aside from that you're completely ignoring the concept of quality. If the bait is shit but the fish still bites, it's starving.
That doesn't make you a good fisherman. You're simply catching that which nobody else wants. And there's a reason they don't want it.

Also, Heywood is making good points. You should listen.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:00 am 
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Dominating is one of those things that this community tends to take out of context. You don't have to literally dominate over a woman, you just need to have a dominating outlook on life.
That implies dominating your problems and overcoming them. Controlling tense situations instead of losing your cool. Ruling over your fears and acting in spite of them, etc.
And this doesn't necessarily apply on a macro scale as much as it does on a micro scale. Think interviews, asking for a raise, learning to use the word "no", buying stylish clothes that "just aren't you".
It's pretty obvious but the more you push the habit of making excuses out of your life the more successful you'll become.
thanks, i was also confused about the meaning of domination.


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> That's basically an anecdote. Not exactly relevant.

The point of the anecdote is that it provides evidence that some toxic personalities are jaw-droppingly attractive to women. Since you raise the issue, I can name four other guys all of whom I know reasonably well who have remarkable track records of getting off with women and I have only recently realised that they all fit into a pretty similar pattern as the guy described above.

Yes, I am aware that half the guys here think I am learning nothing and ignoring all the advice offered and, and, and. However is this entirely untrue and frankly that is their problem. I don't expect many people to bother to fully read nor resonate with the anecdote(s) above, but to the extent than they fail see the significance of the anecdotes illustrates the extent to which I need to avoid their advice.

The point here is that I am trying to get clear on to exactly where I am setting my compass. And to where I am absolutely NOT setting my compass. Like I say, as a noob I am learning a lot of useful/helpful stuff already, including in this thread. But this whole areas does seem like an extraordinarily treacherous path and one needs to be true to oneself, so I definitely pick and choose what is to be on my journey.

All input welcome! :)
Anecdotes are called anecdotes when they aren't good enough to be evidence. Actual evidence is hundreds of cases, not your five or six observations because again you likely ignore cases that go against your world view.
This is factually incorrect. An anecdote is an individual interesting story about a real incident, event or person. The truth is that all scientific evidence starts with anecdotes.

Based on anecdotes one forms a "working theory" and one tests it to see how well it stands up to reality. i.e. You test it to see how well it makes predictions.

There is nothing clever or new here. It's what all humans do all of the time.

If you think that the psychology of individuals is totally irrelevant and that there is nothing for the rest of us to learn from individual case histories - fine, that's your choice.


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Get in the squat rack and load that fucking barbell as much as you can handle. Lift heavy shit. That'll teach you anything and everything there is to know about being a man.

Your mind changes when you've got 405 pounds on your back and you pull those safety rails out from underneath you. You figure out this mentality of "Figure it out!"

Be a fucking man. Handle your shit. You've got 405 pounds on your back and you're stuck at the bottom of a squat position. You know what happens? Your brain shifts into figure it the fuck out mode.

That's what it means to be a man.... I'm not talking about lifting heavy shit- although that helps.

I'm talking about when you've got the weight of the world on your shoulders, you do what ever you've gotta do to hold that motherfucker up. Make decisions. Sink or swim. Fight or flight.

Being a man is to be the warrior.

You can split the chores and shit if that's what you're talking about being equals... but if you want pussies dripping, be that fucking warrior.


(As a public service announcement: Don't try and squat 405 out of the gate. Get your form down first. It's not my fault if you blow out your knees or fuck up your back. Again, figure it out.)

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EDIT: Is this site purely for advice on how to successfully pick up and fuck loads of women, or does the advice given here also map onto meaningful relationships? Honest question.
LMAO...seriously? If you can attract a woman to the point of where she's willing to have sex with you but can't get a woman to want a meaningful relationship with you, that shows that there is a problem with your character.
You are answering a different question.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:27 am 
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If you start off from the mental place that you are an amazing guy, and that you don’t need a partner (or anyone else for that matter) to validate you, then you are on the right track. The woman you become attracted to becomes important for you, but not necessarily 'everything'. You don’t depend on her to make you feel important, or like a man, or even loved, because those things are already part of you. Therefore as a man you would still be capable of rational thought, and capable too of knowing that your relationship MAY come to an end, but you know that wouldn’t be the end of the world, because you are a slick enough person to find someone else worthy of your affection.
A fine place to start. But speak to me of caring.
If the relationship comes to an end, to what extent does this "amazing guy" give a shit?


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Yes, I am aware that half the guys here think I am learning nothing and ignoring all the advice offered and, and, and. However is this entirely untrue and frankly that is their problem. I don't expect many people to bother to fully read nor resonate with the anecdote(s) above, but to the extent than they fail see the significance of the anecdotes illustrates the extent to which I need to avoid their advice.

The point here is that I am trying to get clear on to exactly where I am setting my compass. And to where I am absolutely NOT setting my compass. Like I say, as a noob I am learning a lot of useful/helpful stuff already, including in this thread. But this whole areas does seem like an extraordinarily treacherous path and one needs to be true to oneself, so I definitely pick and choose what is to be on my journey.

All input welcome! :)
Ship,

Just by your writing alone, I feel you are very intelligent, a straight thinker, conservative, just, fair.
I'm sure you are reading, absorbing, categorizing. Putting everything in their own little piles - Bullshit - Logical advice - Golden nuggets you'd like to use in the near future.

Very logical.

But that's the problem.


Women Are Not Logical .


Women come pre-wired to think and act based upon their emotions. When a man starts using logic and reason to persuade a woman, right away you are fucked (not in the good way.

Women simply want to have fun and enjoy the moment. There is no thinking or following logical plans when it comes to having fun.

They want to follow YOU to the fun. They expect YOU to lead them to it.

So many men are only focused on getting serious or being serious. They don’t know how to just relax and have a good time. They over-think the fuck out of everything and ruin the fun.

Women want to be in a fairyland, full of rainbows, warm hugs, sunshine, and earth shattering orgasms.

THEY - Do - NOT - GIVE - A - SHIT how they got there, only that they ARE there.

Using logic on their fun to them, is like throwing sand on their cookies. No fun.

Keep that logic Ship, It'll likely earn you lost of money.

But when it comes to women, leave the logic at work, and just have fun.

Yes, I hear you loud and clear!

All I will say is that the resetting my compass does without question require intelligence, justice, fairness and yes, logic. How the plane is actually flown - in and out of rainclouds & thunderstorms etc - in order to get there is a very different process for sure! Yes, I have learnt my lesson about how irrational women tend to be particularly when it comes to love/sex/romance. [Aside: Us men can be pretty irrational too when the heart is involved. The head and the cock are much more predictable!]

So let's not conflate the two things. A) Choosing where to reset my compass bearing and B) the minute-by-minute actual flying the plane.


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EDIT: Is this site purely for advice on how to successfully pick up and fuck loads of women, or does the advice given here also map onto meaningful relationships? Honest question.
LMAO...seriously? If you can attract a woman to the point of where she's willing to have sex with you but can't get a woman to want a meaningful relationship with you, that shows that there is a problem with your character.
You are answering a different question.
Not true. I'm answering a question that you asked regarding this forum and its advice.

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I really hope Ship is not this analytical, rhetorical, conflicting, and long winded with women. Attractive women would not tolerate this shit for five minutes.

I could see his texts just being novels of sensitivity and philosophy.

If his ultra-sensitive devil's-advocate approach is annoying me, I can only imagine what it looks like popping up on a smartphone.

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I really hope Ship is not this analytical, rhetorical, conflicting, and long winded with women. Attractive women would not tolerate this shit for five minutes.

I could see his texts just being novels of sensitivity and philosophy.

If his ultra-sensitive devil's-advocate approach is annoying me, I can only imagine what it looks like popping up on a smartphone.
Ha! This is probably a huge part of the problem he's had.

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I really hope Ship is not this analytical, rhetorical, conflicting, and long winded with women. Attractive women would not tolerate this shit for five minutes.

I could see his texts just being novels of sensitivity and philosophy.

If his ultra-sensitive devil's-advocate approach is annoying me, I can only imagine what it looks like popping up on a smartphone.
Ha! This is probably a huge part of the problem he's had.
Yep.

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I really hope Ship is not this analytical, rhetorical, conflicting, and long winded with women. Attractive women would not tolerate this shit for five minutes.

I could see his texts just being novels of sensitivity and philosophy.

If his ultra-sensitive devil's-advocate approach is annoying me, I can only imagine what it looks like popping up on a smartphone.
Ha! This is probably a huge part of the problem he's had.
Yep.
Yes, go ahead and attack the guy and fail to address the issues he raises. If that makes you feel better about yourself, sure, go right ahead. It's dull & kindof weak but be my guest.

Here was me thinking this was a forum for guys to talk to guys about how to talk to women and I am now actually being criticised for not talking to you guys like I would talk to women. Seriously?!

Come off it guys, you can do better.


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Come off it guys, you can do better.
Leave your ego at by the door. He's right. Part of improving is facing your shortcomings.

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Ship, Pal,

Nobody here is trying to shame you, or undermine your pillar of character.

They are simply trying to get across to you why they get laid, and you don't.

And isn't that why you came here?

You could be the best looking guy in the city, but if your exhibiting traits that all boring, un-sexy nice guys have in common, then it's just not going to happen for you.

1. Waiting for her to make a move.

2. Not exhibiting sexual intent.

3. Waiting for points for being nice to her.

4. Moping around because its not fair.

5. Being Captain Save A Ho, in her time of need.

6. Believing in karma, justice, and unicorns.

7. Thinking that women are victims of men.

8. Treat them real real nice...always.

9. Always agreeable.

10, Can't understand why women prefer assholes like us.

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Yes, go ahead and attack the guy and fail to address the issues he raises. If that makes you feel better about yourself, sure, go right ahead. It's dull & kindof weak but be my guest.
No, Ship. You're weak. At least in the context of how to attract women.

You use many, many words and don't really say much in the end.
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Come off it guys, you can do better.
No, you can do better.

Look, I don't have to help you. I'm taking my time to try, and so are others here. You need to listen/read more and type less. You have no clue what you're doing with women. And if you don't start shutting the fuck up and listening more, you are doomed to a life of jacking off and 5's.

Let this thread be a good example for you, and learn to set aside your fragile ego. You'll need to get rid of that to not look needy and emotionally-uncentered around women....which is exactly what happened with your dream girl.

And I'm not trying to be mean or picking a fight. I was like you once when it came to women. Sure, I could attract them just fine with my looks, but I had a soft, wishy-washy personality with them that caused problems. Like you do now.

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