p.s. if you're a proper asshole if you f-close then be the one to flake then suggest a meetup.

It will piss her off but she'll jump all over you as soon as she sees you to try to prove how sexy she is/can be.

the trick to avoid staying out of the loser category is to have more than one girl you are constantly thinking about. You always need to assume that online women or any woman you meet, have more than one guy they are thinking about in most cases. Men have to do the same typically to succeed.

I don't start thinking of one girl exclusively until I have fucked them raw. Until you fuck them and you know it's maybe getting serious, she's probably not going to be serious unless she's real young and timid. I didn't mean loser in terms of how you acted on the date or internet b/c I don't know. But I do think you had a lot more vested interest in her then she did with you and when they sense that it turns them off

Thanks for this post! You are right I did invest more and had more of a vested interest which probably turner off it the then. When that happens, how do yo turn them back on?

here is what I would do;

get a camera or camera phone. Go out of your house and locate girls you think are similar to her. Take a pic with you and that girl. If you can't do this , you need to start thinking about fatter girls.

If you can do it, I will give you more advice

Thanks. I can do this. I will do this. What next?

I don't like the idea of taking pics with girls you don't know too well and putting them on your social media sites. It's just a personal thing, I'm sure it has potential to be effective and DHV but it's just smoke and mirrors. Instead, spend your time on seducing other girls, and even if you get friend-zoned - you'll at least have wing-girls to go out with and DHV that way. Real girls hanging around you are more powerful than girls on your facebook profile. People might not even look at your facebook, but if you're out with other girls - it's instantly a positive for all the females in the vicinity.


Most posters here have already said something to the equivalent of "go out and get other girls, ignore her etc" and I agree with this for the most part. You'll have to be patient if you want to really get this girl. A bad start is difficult to recover from and for me- not worth the trouble.

Just my 2 cents.

One other thing I noticed in the title was that you wrote the word "Desperate." If this echos your inner-sentiment, then I suggest you spend some time working on yourself. Though infatuation is a very powerful thing, you never need any one girl desperately.

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Preston has a couple good points there, poster. I am not suggesting putting it on your social media.

The goal is to use your "desperate" mindset of trying to get back to this internet date girl to meet other women. The internet date you lost is all you care about where women are concerned right now, right? so you don't care if you get rejected by anyone else. So go find a random girl to tell this story to. You aren't trying to pick up said random girl. You just want to talk. If you say "hey" and they walk away, who cares? All you care about is internet date girl and finding out how to get her back. Get a girl to tell you her opinion on the matter. Then go get another girls opinion and see how they compare. You will get a few girls who'll talk to you about it just b/c they feel sorry for you.

After about a 3 day journey if you haven't forgotten about this internet scab you're obsessing over, send her a pic of you and one of the girls you met and say "in your opinion does she......" and you fill in the blanks.

Dudes like you are a little bit scary b/c if you aren't careful, you start to give off a vibe to women that you are an obsessive, depressive, control freak. I get that impression from you even though you probably are too young and inexperienced to realize it. But, it's something you can defeat if you start doing stuff I tell you to do.

Very good post! You are right. Thanks

The thing with online dating is that women have so many choices and distractions to work with. Also it's not as serious as day gaming because they will never have to see you again if they decide to, unlike day game where they might run into you around the area or the initial gaming spots. Hence, the flake rate is significant. So the best strategy for online sarging is always strike the iron when it's hot.

- When I number close, I always set the date in the same day or the next 2-3 days, so I don't have to waste time and energy to time-bridge and rebuild attraction if it falls off.
- When I'm on a date, I always aim for f-close on the first date. Like I said earlier, online dating lacks the level of commitment so f-close as soon as possible will improve her investment and interest in you.
- When building attraction, I always show less interest than her.

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But i would say there is another guy on the scene hence the flake.

I also think you shouldn't makeout too much as you might risk frying her and killing the tension.

keep it electric and lead it till the bedroom.

my spider sense says you live with parents which why you didn't go for the extraction

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This might not be 100% suitable for your situation but may help in the future. If I meet a girl were texting back and forth then all of a sudden she stops most times she's testing you or you've said somethng stupid. My reply to that is after 30min to 1hr have passed I text her and say "this relationship is clearly not working out we need to get a divorce I get the house cars and money you take the kids" I've used that line 5 or 6 times each time positive response in less the 1 min. Also check out bad boy lifestyle.com there's a free ebook on the do's and don'ts of texting. there's also free one on improving your inner game which only going by your posts I think you could benefit from. Anyway mate good luck hope it works out for you!!