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Asking would definitely be pretty chump. Actually it could backfire and make them go even more shy.
Shy girls really really need a lot of trust + comfort for rapport. It just takes time.. or a really good natural connection.
Also if she isn't giving you tactile or audio IOIs look for visual ones. Shy girls that like a guy really tend to do a lot of hair-touches, clothing adjustments, seating re-positions.. etc.
i appreciate your answer. i belive im creeping them about because im not controlling my kino. so im working on that
Kino is easy.
A playful nudge when you bust on her in a C/F way
Hand slightly on the shoulder when whispering to her
Any routine that starts with "let me see your hands"
Just don't get "handsy" in a threatening, sexual way, unless you have the IOIs to do it and the venue calls for it. Kino is meant to build comfort, and get her used to your touch.