first a story:

today in class i made a plyful command to some girls in class as they gossiped


"hey! no talkin' in class" much as a teacher would say to a noisy faction.

Well, along comes this Foo trying to be alpha saying "when youre not the instructor nobody cares" to my face, and i was gonna tell him off in a C&F manner, but the teacher came in and interrupted me.

the point being, how do you disarm an Alpha with words?
Or with attitude in general?

Do you ignore them?
Do you answer back soberly?
Do you Neg em back?

Any particular point to attack or things to keep in mind when this happens?

thanx bros

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ignore him.

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Back, starting over as of 2012.

first of all if you want to get anywhere you need to believe that you are an alpha. dont bitch out and say "hahah your right mann." tell that punk to shut the fuck up, no one was talking to him. and if he wants to fight. fight him. women like it when you stand your ground. but dont just stand...hit. doesnt make you less of a man to lose a fight. it makes you less of a man to run from a fight.

Makes you more alpha yeah. Shows her your willing to stand up to someone , sure.. defiantly gives you the protection quality. All valid points, at very high consequences. If he’s 6`5 pure muscle I wouldn’t challenge him, id befriend him and be in his circle of friends! That way I automatically get that protection value in front of her. And i make a new friend.

Kudos to 'thafukk'. I didn’t answer this question properly first time round.

Part 2.

I recently came back from a sarge, and i opened girls with this issue, next to all the response are as follows

Impact: Hey quick question, if you were in a bar, and a real cool interesting guy came up, and started a conversation, and you were really enjoying his company *using NLP to anchor to myself* and lets say some guy*changes body language* came along and bullied him out *back to normal body language* how would you feel?
HB1: Id tell the guy excuse me fuck off, I'f you dont like it, then find another table.
HB2: Well.... ill run after the nice guy and tell him im really so sorry, and if he does get hit or hurt, if i like him ill give him a kiss!, even superman needs to be saved sometimes.
HB1: Yeh and guys have to give girls a chance to take care off them, but not be whimpy.
Impact: So you like a guy to be strong, confident, but sometimes youd like him to give some control to his girl, and let her deal with some of the problems that come by?
HB1: Yeh totally!
Impact: Awesome thanks for the advice you know you two have a amazing connection, anyone ever told you about the best friends test?
HB2: the what?..

This is directly from infield. The girl will go out of her way if she likes you, and take action, if this scenario happens in a club. If your getting amogd and she does nothing, than thats you failing in game to spark that initial attraction. Has nothing to do with picking fights in clubs.

Great post

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Standing Yur Ground its a Great Dhv, But also u Could also disarm Him with Words, If U dont know how to "humiliate " an Alpha Guy with words u can always Get Physical,(But not loosing the style LOL).

What Happened To you, Has happended TOm me so many times that anwering this kinda stuff its kinda easy for me Really i mean it has happended tome lots of times.
Sov: LOL, Hey Mate If im not the instructor, why are U paying so much attention to Me? !!1 LOL, It seems U care (wait few secs) Right Guys ( to the Girls)

Or Try this One, I Use it often, though its kinda Risky, u got to calibrate his response:

Sov: Hey Mate! Am i your Friend? (sarcastically)
AMOG: Of course NOt
Sov: So Why Are U talking to me? Wait For u friends Or ay one who cares about what u say (Sarcastically) ( Then Pwacefully pass Him By)



Try It Mate

Though Standing YOur Ground physically is sometoimes Good, U just Heard what impact Psoted

Cheers SOV

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Ok, this is going to be a long one....

Let me share a lesson from my first martial arts instructor:
The only way to win a fight is not to fight.

I'll admit that sometimes it's impossible. If somebody goes for you then you should defend yourself. However, this will hardly ever happen and will happen even less if you're confident.

A bully (and most guys that will try to challenge you to a physical fight are just that) only picks on people he knows he can push around.
If you're confident enough he'll start wondering why you're not intimidated by him. Once that thought has crept into his mind he'll start wondering if maybe you have enough skills to take him on even though you don't look that strong or if you have strong friends around that will stand up for you. Either way, he'll be less inclined to fight unless you actually start provoking him.

Over the years I've come to know my physical strengths and weaknesses and how I can use them to my advantage and unless I'm up against a professional martial artists I can say that it's very probable that I'll come out of the fight as the 'winner' . However, I'll have lost because I couldn't handle the situation verbally and had to step down to my challenger's level.

My prefered way to deal with somebody who wants to get physical;
'Hey, it's ok. You're twice my size and you can probably snap me in half with just 2 fingers. If I did something to piss you off, I'm sorry dude, I didn't do it on purpose. You seem like a cool guy so why would I want to offend you? I hope you enjoy the rest of your evening."
Then I'll turn back to whoever I was talking to and go on with my conversation.

That'll usually do the trick. Sometimes somebody will still harass you afterwards in which case I always say:"Dude, I'm here to have a good time with some really interesting people. If you really want a fight because you feel like you have something to prove then why don't you just pick a gym with a ring and I'll meet you there tomorrow at 4. Seriously, I'd rather buy you a drink than have a fight with you. Like I said, you seem like a really cool person."

Only once have I had it that after that somebody still wanted to fight and started shoving me.
That time I excused myself for a second towards the people I was talking to, went over to the bar and said to the bartender:
"Sorry to bother you but that guy there is looking for a fight. Now I'm only here to have a fun night with my friends <pointing to the group> so I'd appreciate it if you could talk to him. We really like it here and would hate it if we have to leave because of one freak."

Bartender called the bouncers (as you'll find is completely normal in a situation like that) and the guy was asked to leave.
Problem solved the peaceful way.
I agree with the 'very high consequences but disagree with the rest of it.
Fighting somebody who challenges you doesn't show you're willing to stand up. It shows you're willing to step down.
It shows you can't handle the situation in an Alpha manner but you have to resort to the challenging Beta's level. I guess it shows adaptability but I don't think this is the best way to show it

It also does not give you the protection quality.
When you get in to a fight over your ego you leave her unprotected.
Now if somebody came over and started pushing her around and you step in then yes, that would give you the protection quality.

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Go Pulp fiction on his ass "I dont remember asking you a goddamn thing!"

tell him this, I see youve set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public

, or this

make somebody happy and mind ur own fcking bussiness with a hardcore alpha voice,

or if u want to be mean say this,

A guy with ur IQ should stay quiet

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Hey Anabasis you bring up some good points.
But I disagree to being so passive. Like offering to buy him a drink.
Do NOT let him out alpha you and do not ever submit to him.
Why reward his despicable behaviour?

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Giacomo, obviously it's your prerogative to disagree.

However, if you go back you'll see I only offer the drink after I've established I'm not afraid of him.
Not only do I establish I'm not afraid of him, by letting him choose a location I show I'm not afraid of anybody he associates either.
Only then do I offer him a drink. Like a king, I'm the one offering boons.

This has nothing to do with rewarding his behavior. It's about cementing my position towards the women.
Keep in mind that while men grow up establishing their position in the group physically women grow up playing power games.
She'll see you stand your ground and not only that, you offer the other guy parole. This makes you the true Alpha in her eyes as a Beta could never offer parole, all the Beta can do is ask for it.

Btw, all this should obviously be done without appearing meek.
No tremor in your voice, no intimidated body language, keep EC during the interaction.

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In that situation I would have pointed at him and laughed, like I thought his comment was actually amusing, while I was still laughing I would have look at the girls (still pointing at him) and raised my eyebrows and rolled eyes a little and shaked my head slightly.

Ignore him from then one, this is a class setting he will not fight you. If he tries to say anything else ignore, glance back and forth from your book, paper, whatever and the girls, trust me they will glance back to see what is going on. It is part of there instincts, they want to see who comes out on top. They are looking for the AMOG subconciously, when they do wink at them. And then act as if nothing has happened, return to your book, paper, whatever...

DO THIS EVEN IF THE PROFESSOR IS WALKING IN!!! DO NOT HESITATE!!!
If the professor takes notice then it will work in your favor.
If the professor ask's what is going on/comotion etc...
Smile and say LOUDLY!! and point, remember to point!
This guy was making a funny comment about professor's.

BINGO!!! All attention is on him and he is on the spot, let's see this motherfucker recover now!!!!

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I disagree. You just made a new enemy. This guy will remember this, and I don't think that the girls would like it either. Also, you just stopped yourself from talking to girls by laughing until professor steps in.

I'd rather look at him in "I get it" way with non-impressed smile and not say anything. It makes him look like a fool. Give him a second of your attention, and continue talking to girls. Don't start a fight.

Carpe Diem.

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Wow, this is really good post! Personally, Im not sure which way i would go with this type scenario. I do know that I have reacted both ways in the past. With equal or higher agression and other times with composure and intellect. I gotta say that wenever I have reacted agression-I didnt feel good about myself. i felt better wen I was able to deflect the negative engery/potential DLV from an alpha using words.

I would have to go with every one on avoiding the fight. Who knows what you will look like after the fight so that could hurt your sarging. ZERO...that shit is funny. Balance, you to man that is fucking halarious but would probably get my ass kicked. I like the one where you point at him and put him on the spot. While funny it is also a gamble. Who knows what this guy would do. Typically I try to pull something funny. I would have said something like:

By the way how much time passed between what you originally said and the asshole spouting off? If it was a short period then the following would work.

AMOGer: If your not the instructor, nobody cares.

LC: Loud enough to command the room and pointing to the asshole "EXCEPT THIS GUY, THIS GUY CAN SPEAK WHEN EVER HE FEELS LIKE IT CAUSE HE IS CAPTAIN COOL !!! So ladies....you come here often?"

Now I know its a lame opener but it usually works cause it something you would not expect to hear in a class room. It also works great in elevators or other obvious random places. After you use it you have to move into a real opener.

Just my 2 cents.

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deffinatly...however it would be better to throw out a movie quote from something the girls would know of....that way your not stuck having to explain the fact that you quoted a movie so were joking

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