Look, I'm bout to possibly piss a lot of motherfuckers right off here, but kiss closing a girl is too easy to consider it a goal worthy of achieving. YOU MUST LOOK BEYOND!!!, nigga.

I've only kissed 5 girls in my whole life. All of them in the last 2 months. Yeah I learn quick. I fucked the second girl I wheeled and I fingered the third. I started to wheel the last two girls in a matter of minutes, if not seconds.
My point: In the last two months I am pretty damn sure that I have figured out the key to getting laid. I just gotta master it now. And it's being sexual. I was at a party tonight waiting in line to piss started talking to some cute girl, (never said anything so special that I should be teaching it) , backed her up against the counter and started wheelin. It's that fucking easy. This "I DONT KNOW HOW TO FEEL ABOUT IT" pickup community teaches a ton of confusing openers, routines, amogs whatever the fuck DHV the list goes on. They teach all that shit when to kiss a girl all I do is make sure she's not distracted by group conversation, change my tone of voice to sexual (the words dont matter), pull her in close and wheel wheel wheel. I did it tonight to a girl in seconds, she ended up walking away from me without saying bye after a few minutes but whatever. (I still got work to do) But I bet I can still kiss a girl faster than you even if youve fucked 100 girls when Ive fucked 1.

The other thing I want to say is that the number close... The damn number close... I find it fucking useless. I have never had a number that turned into anything yet. Ive had more Kcloses than numbers. Because I'm a shitty conversationalist? Idkk. But I do know that I am now a sexual guy and I'm wheelin bitches. So what up... ?

Be Sexual, make your move early. You can kiss a girl in minutes I swear to you I was square in july hahaha. (Alcohol Environment)

If you are into building relationships, and text game or getting number, or successful numbers, or getting dates. I have no fucking idea what to tell you I have never experienced any of that shit yet I'm still a complete rook, sorry.

I can however tell you, If you want to kiss girls. Be sexual, Make your move early. Its fucking foolproof.
Steven Hawkings could pull this shit off.

Now I called this post the kiss close worth aint shit because really it aint. Idk bout you but I'm in it to get laid. Although kissing a girl is a necessary step to getting laid, I still go home unsatisfied if I only kissed a girl when I went out. And I personally find it too easy. I mean in a few months I should be able to kiss girls on the hour.

Bittybanger gon go piss n pass outttttt..... yeahhhhhh college freshman!

Good for you! I'm glad you have such confidence and never second guess yourself. I love the fact that you are brazen and bold about your game.

It sounds like your main pickups are done in a party setting. How's your day game working out? For example, when you're just out on the street or shopping and not in an alcohol environment. I couldn't imagine that same approach at Starbucks. I'm on your side when it comes to the kiss close not being a great thing, especially at a party. But if you pulled off a kiss close after meeting a girl at the bus stop within minutes you'd be the fucking man.

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I kissed a girl after 5 mins at a coffee shop. I was so easy it felt almost rapey. I assume she felt pretty slutty afterwards, didnt really hear from her much after. So, I would say that one should show caution trying for a kiss close in daygame. "With great power comes great responsibility."

Outstanding! You used that same type of approach?

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She was nervous as all fuck from the time I entered the place. I opened her when she went outside to use her phone. She was jittery and bug eyed so I pulled her in for a hug to tell her to calm down and SHE went for a kiss. I turned away, but went back a few seconds later anyway. I knew it would burn it, but whatever. I'd never really moved on an ultra nervous girl before because I was always the nervous one. Turns out... if they are shitting their pants it's full speed ahead. Don't learn that shit from disney.

I tried picking up girls when I was living in montreal. Ive lived there twice I might of done a total of 50-70 daytime approaches in the 11 months Ive spent there. They all went nowhere. I only lost my virginity two nights before leaving montreal (im in college at my hometown now) so I havent had a chance to approach during the day since. I must admit I am too bitch to do it in this little shit town dont wanna fuck things up. I do talk to girls a bit on campus tho but I'm gonna mainly focus on making a good social circle and meeting girls through friends from now on.

Until I grow the balls to do full on direct cold aprroches during the day in this city, I'm just gonna stick to doing it at parties and at bars.

And yes I completely agree with you. Pulling off a kiss close in minutes on the street or at the mall would be fucking awsome. Its on my bucket list for sure. x100.

You don't need to be direct in Daygame. It is better not to be initially, IMHO. The most direct approach I use is "you caught my eye so I figured is come say hi... What's your name?". You can always ramp it up when they ioi, but starting as a curious cool, confident guy is a great place to start.

You don't need to be anything when it comes to game accept comfortable with what you use. What is successful for you doesn't always transfer to the next guy. You just talked about getting a KClose with a girl at a coffee shop within five minutes. There is no way you did that going indirect so I can't figure out why you would say it is initially better not to.

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i think bc he said it didnt really anywhere afterwards.

Firstly, it's not like I do this all the time. I'm saying try to open pretty indirect, curious, and switch to direct when you feel its time has come. If you open with "hi, you look bored" and the girls starts IOIing like hell, then transition to something more to the point. If she takes longer, so do you. If she never appears seriously interested then you stay at pleasant chit chat. Going in indirect is for your own good. Then you have no pressure, can get a read of the interaction, and reassess. If a girl is just standing like a dope, drrrr, and you are confident of your read, then go in fast and hard, by all means, but this was for advice for a guy who hasn't gotten to that point.

I get where you're coming from. I guess my issue is that a lot of people say that there is a time for indirect and a time for direct. I almost think that some don't really understand what direct actually is. Like they expect a man to walk up to a woman and say, "Hi, I just wanted to let you know that I want to fuck you." You can be at the coffee shop like you were, express attraction as long as you're charming. If you don't know how to be charming, you need indirect. I do disagree that going indirect is for your own good unless you know your intentions will not be acceptable for the woman. There is nothing like watching a woman's eyes light up when you tell her that you find her attractive and then just having a conversation with her. I love that.

But like I said before, go with what you're comfortable with. Most of the people that I know that have changed their approach style to direct have not gone back to indirect.

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Holy fuck enough with the indirect vs direct shit if your trying to pick up a girl its obviously direct. She knows why ur there. Unless ur some pussyboi talking about the weather she knows your intentions. Embrace it.
Make it obvious that you want to get to know her .. dont just use some "direct opener"

And btw I talk to girls everyday... its on a more friendly tone though i just dont feel like sarging on campus. And no I'm not gonna fall into no friend zone for being friendly these bittys wont hear from me enough. Until i'm ready

You have it exactly right.