Hey everyone,'

So, I've known about pick up for a couple of years now. Kind've half assed it for a while, gotten some mixed success ( some lays, kiss closes, numbers ... etc. ) but I never actually developed solid game. Game that I can go out and rely on. Game that will help me consistently get girls of the caliber I'm looking for. Game that I can feel proud about. Game that will get into bed with some of the beautiful women I see around.


Most of the success I've gotten has been through my extended social circle. Now I want to expand upon that success and get cold approach down. In order to reach my goal of getting cold approach down (and ultimately getting girls) I've set the high order of approaching 500 women to get over my newb status.

I'm going to document EVERY SINGLE ONE of my next 500 approaches in THIS THREADDDD. I am going to keep updating this post till I have reached the number 500!!! So stay tuned and join me in this journey. Maybe it'll inspire you to get off your ass and possibly even learn from my mistakes. And if you want to join in a similar goal, please post away. Any and all advice will be appreciated ...

So i actually went out last night, any my count is going to start there ...

[1] 3set ... all midgets
deep: hey, do you guys have a height limit to who you call friends/????
3set: auhhhh ... ... [look away]

crash and burn .... Had mad AA after that so 499 more to go ... lol.

Going out again tonight and am in kind've a rush so here is my very abridged game plan:


1. open: hey! [initiate kino] Who is hotter? Penelope Cruz or Salma hayek? ...
2. FTC and then stack to why girls always pick CRUZ while all dudes Pick HAyek (boobs ... delicious boobs) then stack to which of the castmembers of friends ...
3. neg if they get bored ... is she always like that? does she come with an off button?
4. demonstrate value ... lead (i have no idea how to do this ... pleaase help)
5. change location, preferrably quiter, darker. Continue escalating kino, comfort and talk about funny youtube videos. Always be the first to push away.
6. Tell her your ride has left.
7. ask for a ride home.
8. come in, I want to show you my christmas tree and the youtube video that i was talking about.
9. FTC again. Have to get up early tomorrow ( i really do)
10. push pull with escalating kino ....


update later this weekend ...

so your plan involves negging a bored person? Try not to mate, you'll have them going away. If your gunna go unnatural, Reel her back in with another opinion opener, and only neg when she actually does something silly like interrupt you or something. Negging is more about busting balls than actually insulting =]

I'm with you bro, I'll post some of my attempts.

You should stop over thinking the situation, especially this early into the game. 499 pick-ups to go and you already have a step-by-step plan to a SNL.

I know we all wish everything will go as planned when sarging, but it doesn't and I can guarantee every PUA would agree.

Have confidence, smile and maybe have a few openers handy. but that's it.
Try some natural game, get used to talking to sets. Learn to think on your feet.

Obviously use the techniques you've learned about, but don't let that take over you. The more you approach, the quicker you become on your feet, the more comfortable you become doing it.

Good Luck

LMFAO that one was too much!

good luck on the next ones though

I Got focused on work and haven't been able to post for a while ... have a rough week behind me and probably a rougher one ahead of me but i wanted to post to keep myself and others motivated. I was almost not about to post at all, but seeing other's responses motivated me. I hope this does the same for others. This is over a couple of nights so bear with me ... Also, incase you're wondering, i keep track of the approaches by jotting very minimal notes down in my phone

but first to other's responses:

To taffy:
you're right buddy. I think it would also be wrong of me to neg if they are getting bored ... Thanks for the tip, I'll just jump into another opener next time. And what do you mean "if you're gunna go unnatural?" is there a method to going natural? (apart from being myself)

to Teedub:

thanks for the advice and feel free to post away! ... i'll try to keep my plan more flexible, actually i didn't stick to it that much so maybe I should be a little more strict. I also think that i may smile too much?? you think that is a bad thing???

Night 1:

[2] girl at pregame HB7 - I was with all of my boys (and girl), and i think that probably had some inbuilt social value from that, so just went up to her and introduced myself. Opened easily. Fluffed for a bit, got some kino in with "proper ways to introduce yourself to people from your own school." BUTT ... wasn't really feeling her. At that point, my friend came into the conversation. He seemed into her, and I didn't feel like continuing it, so just excused myself to go get a shot. My friend actually ended up hooking up with her ...

[what I learnt] There were atleast three hot girls at the pre-game, dont be a pussy next time, just go up and talk to them. "pre-game" insinuates a bounce (to "the actual game") ... it's really easy to integrate with the set during the bounce and the re-initiate contact, comfort at the location.

[3] 2 set HBtits (6.5) and HBsb (smaller boobs) ...
deep: hey who's hotter ...
HBtits: uhhh ... Salma Hayek.
deep: are you sure? let's see what your friend thinks. Hey, who hotter ...?
HBsb: Penelope cruz, she's pretty!
deep: See! this is how most girls respond! they go with the pretty girl. Most guys though say salma hayek. Any guesses why??
HBsb: BOOBS!
deep: yeah, exactly. but you're friend responded like a dude. She's not a lesbian is she???? *smirk at HBtits*
HBtits: oh shut up!! slaps arm.
deep: [Turns to HBsb] you get a prize for being straight [deep holds out hand, she accepts and gets twirled] ...

I introduce myself to both and fluff for bit: "what brings you guys to my hood?" "where do you go to school?" ...etc?

Then I get bored of the conversation and realize that there are hotter girls so excuse myself. Ran into these girls again twice by the end of the night, made up some excuse both times. Number closed HBtits, but didn't want to call.

[what I learnt] I just felt like opening, so I did. But i think i should be aiming for hotter girls to keep my end of the attraction up =(. Any thoughts anyone???

[4] 2 set at bar. HB7.5 and friend with back turned. Both are waiting in line to get to the crowded bar. I am too. She's maybe 5'5" so i tell her...
deep: come with me, i'll get you to the bar faster
HB7.5: what?
deep: THE BAR IS CROWDED. COME WITH ME, I'LL GET YOU TO THE FRONT FASTER!!!!
HB7.5: ...okkkkayy [missed chance for kino? maybe, but we get to the other end of the bar with her just following me. I didn't think she'd do it, but i guess she really wanted a drink ... not that i was going to pay for her, lol]
AT THE BAR: introduce myself and then fluff. WHere are you form .... etc.
Then friend from before finds us and tells us that she has drinks for everyone. HB7.5 leaves and while leaving says ...
HB7.5: come find me

I see her again later in the night, but now in a group of 6 girls and AA takes over. Dammit!!!!

[what I learnt] Keep both girls together. Hb7.5 got taken away because I didn't introduce myself to both girls. Had I done that, both may have stayed with me ... and i would likely have felt more comfortable reopening later, because if HB7.5 wasn't in the same mood, then I could easily switch my attention to the other one.

[5] 4 set HB8 opens me
hb8: take a photo
deep: why should I do that???
hb8: just do it!!
lemming ... i mean, deep: [takes photo and then gives camera back without saying a word]

[what I learnt] dont be a lemming . and use photo op to open and start conversation.

[6] 2 set latinos --- dont remember anything, but proud of myself because I think all latino girls are soooo hotttt!!!

[7] 5 set, mixed. HB9 Hot dancer catches my eye. Normally, i dont open mixed sets but this girl was especially hot, dancing at the edge of her group and the guys didn't look intimidating so I found my kahunas and opened ( ... like a chump)

deep: WOW! YOU HAVE TO BE THE HOTTEST DANCER IN HERE
HB9: No, i'm not, there's no way.
deep: I guarantee that you are.
[ HB9 starts dancing towards also hot friend and says ... "did you hear this guy????" to her girlfriend. One of thier male friends begins to dance in between me and HB9. I got flustered and little embarassed, but most importantly, didn't know where to go from here (any ideas???) so I just walked away. I dont think i got entirely blown out of the set, because she didn't tell me to go away and her body language didn't tell me she was not retracted. But i didn't know how to handle both her and the orbiter at the same time]


[what I learnt] I dont think the situation was as embarassing as I make it out to seem but i need to know how to handle the dudes ... hummm. .

[8] 2 set mixed???? wtf have no idea what this one was. maybe not even worth counting cause i didn't learn anything...

[9] 1 set

I was standing while she was walking by and recognize her from somewhere.

deep: hey what's up??
HB7: hey! [gets pushed by person moving behind her]
HB7: I'm going to have to come back! bye!!!


... never came back! ... teardrop (there is no teardrop emoticon)

[what I learnt] this one is right outta the books. Dont open a set with more energy then you. i.e. Dont open a moving target, unless you are moving.

[10] i was standing in the exact same spot where the last set ended. Guy with a broken arm in a cast was next to me standing with a tough look on his face.

deep: hey man! what did you do to your arm???
ToughGuy: i broke it doing ... {i dont remember what he said}
deep: that's not what you tell the girls right? You gotta tell 'em some ridiculous shit, like you got it in a fight, hahah.

after this [not so]ToughGuy opened up, shot a few jokes and then had to leave cause he found his friends.

[what I learnt] Nothing, cause he's a dude. But it was fun talking to him, and probably made his night a little better. Also i opened with the sole intention of talking to him, so i'll count this one.

at about this point of the I started feeling a little more comfortable, and started loosening up a little bit

[11] same exact spot as last two sets, this time turn to my left ... 5 set, but only 2 are within audible range: HBchunky and HB7. Some dude just walked away.

deep: hey! what's up?
Hb7: [frowns and looks away]
deep: [to HBchunky] what's wrong with her? [turns to HB7] you know noone's gunna hit on you if you look so mad all the time!
HB7: [frowns again ... maybe she couldn't talk??? i dunn know]
deep: [to Hbchunky] is she always like this??
Hbchunky: No, she's just a little mad today!

deep: [moves over to HBchunky] and begins fluff ... {i forget what I said}

anways as i'm talking to HBchunky, one of my friends come into my line of vision behind HBchunky and motions to me about how chunky she actually is. So I decide to screw it, and make an excuse to walk away as there is a little time left in the club. Hopefully made her night a little better!

[what I learnt] can't win all the sets. my original target was the hb7 but i just turned to the friend who was more responsive with the hope of restarting the rest of the set.

[12] 7 set, begins pretty much in the same spot as the last three sets. All hot HB8+, all dancing with no dudes, all in an enclosed, exclusive, very expensive area of the club. they are about 5 feet away from me.

deep: HEY ! WHY COME TO A CLUB WITH NO GUYS? AND THEN JUST DANCE WITH YOURSELF?
set: no response
deep: repeat question.
set: no response


[what I learnt] there's hot rich lesbians in the world ...hahaha, I have no idea how I could have done this any better. Ideas anyone?


dammit, it's getting late. Want to wake up in 6 hrs to get back to work ... i'm gunna have to pick this up later, there's plenty more on my phone, some of which actually ended in success!


good luck everyone!

best of luck to you brother!

You're doing well opening all those sets, more than I did last time I was out.

Although it would be nice to hear peoples' opinions on the photograph situation. That same one actually happened to me on Friday.

Girl: Would you take our photo?
Trev(hur purty lady): Sure !
*Takes photo and hands camera back*

What would actually be a good thing to say?

Maybe hold your hand out and say "Sure, that'll be five pounds (or dollars)?" Something like that maybe?

Salut!

Deep, I really appreciate what you are doing but I have to confess: when I read "500 approaches" and assumed going out 3 times a week, that means over 3 years of sarging. And I know, the more approaches the better but I think there is no point of doing approaches only unless you fight AA. It's some sort of newbie mission: as many approaches as fast as possible to get over AA. My suggestion is to make small steps, write your goals for today. It's going nowhere if you just want to make an approach. And you counted a guy... that means your goal is to reach 500. Period. I would like you to go out today and #close. Dig this forum and find a good way to #close. This is the way we all learned. Once you achieve a number - now make it not being flake. Then the next goal - kiss-close. And so on. Don't get me wrong, I love reading such challenges (competetive nature, right?) but I can't see any progress, it looks like searching for a fool's mate. That's not the Game. Ok, here are my comments (if you would like to read):

[2] - this was what we call natural approach. No canned openers, just on-the-spot decisions
[3] - I don't know what is HB6.5 in your scale but on regular basis I would like to lay anything from 5 above, 4 when I'm drunk so I assume 6.5 is pretty but not stunning. Opinion operer worked, congratulations, you planted a seed of curiosity by the "prize" thing, it's an easy kiss-close by the way
[4] - this was the best piece of Game i have read in the whole post. You should take her by the hand and lead her there, introducing - OK. Then - cockblock but she wanted you to come to her, that means she was into you. It's a shame you haven't progressed, she obviously wanted to see if you have balls to approach her when in group. And you know her name, "Hey Random, introduce me!". Good job, I like that. Opening + isolation at once. Standing ovation.
[5] - a photo, classic. Mystery would say "Uhm, no." and freeze them, I would rather take this camera, pretend taking them a photo but instead turn it around and take photo to me with a stupid face. And then start to look at pictures in the card memory. The Hoop theory - they want the camera back and you say "I will do it if SHE [point one of them] will take picture to the rest of us." Kaboom! e-mail + number close because you want your picture.
[7] - my appreciation, I wouldn't approach her without a pivot.
[12] - I don't know what was the type of club but I can think of them as a hired guns. Hired to bring as many men as possible. Don't scream, approach calmly and ask "Who are you?" - I love that opener by the way.

If you want some info about natural game, read "Vin DiCarlo" and "60 years of challenge". PM me if you want.

Salut!

Surielx.

_________________
An Alpha male cries only when Mufasa dies.
Personal thread: lr-s-surielxs-crazy-adventures-vt79972.html

Man I love that opener!!!! I will definitely use it this weekend! What would you say after it tho? Something like;
Me; Hi, who are you?
Her: XXX
Me; Hi nice to meet you, as soon as I saw you I had to know something about you!

Something like that? Not sure how my line would work at night/club game tho

Salut!

Thanks for the support. I think that deep inside this opener there is some strange force that puts you above her. I am not scripted-type, I think I would make some c&f comment depends on her answer. Don't know, I can imagine 3 sentences that may occur:

"Why are you asking?"
"And you?"
"Random."

If you like the scripted conversation, think about your C&F answers to that. Humour keeps the girl interested and unbored.

Salut!

Surielx.

EDIT: or make DHV right away "Hmm... You are the one I don't know here, it's your first time in this club?"

_________________
An Alpha male cries only when Mufasa dies.
Personal thread: lr-s-surielxs-crazy-adventures-vt79972.html

First off let me say this is an excellent idea and I like the way you are smashing through the sets one piece of advice that you already commented on and I want to encourage you to start doing is only approach those sets that you are attracted to

If your not it does no good because if you get rejected you don't care and if you run amazing game and get their numbers you won't care. It's like entering in a 10,000 person freeroll poker tournament where the first place prize is 18 dollars, if you get out you don't care because it was free and if you win you are pissed off that it wasn't for real stakes where you can win some actual money......hope this is a clear enough analogy.

Okay now to the pictures First I would just say absolutely when they ask and then flip the camera around backwards and say one two three and when they are all smiling it will take a picture of your face and they will all crack up; act like you kind of knew what you were doing but leave the hint that you may not have. Then take their pictures and look at it and say one more and point to your target and say something like "Alright now that you already made your goofy face in the last picture I'm going to need you to smile pretty like everyone else this time"

The attitude in pulling this off is vital, you need to say it while literally smiling with your eyes if you do this you will build attraction every time.

Now you have interacted a lot more then just taking a picture you have been funny, and took charge AMOG now dive in and run some game.

Hope this helps let me know.

-GuessAgain

_________________
GUESS

A response I used once when asked to take a photo was "Oh, I don't usually take photos of myself for people I don't know".. They weren't the exact words but they were more or less the same. Got me and the chick talking so it wasn't a failure.

I've used the money thing before. Sometimes they just laugh but a couple of times you'll get a "Urggggh, i'll ask someone else"

Now I say "Oh yeah... I'll take your picture"

Then I'll look through the camera for like 10 seconds in complete silence. One of them will always start complaining. Eventually take the picture, have a look at it and say "You blinked...lets get another one". Then give them orders..."stand closer", "put your hands on your hips" etc. Sometimes I'll even go over and move their arms and shit or fix their hair slightly. Eventually I'll take their picture again then look at it and say "It looks terrible...I'm sorry, I cant work like this...I'm used to working with professional beauties". This will usually get an "OMG I cant believe you said that" kinda response, then you just roll on and take it from there.....

This is how I worked. --

Just pick a random problem with the camera and say this needs to be fixed. Girls normally respond. Then you can continue wi intro what does she do and enter the set.

I like this idea! It's good to see you learning from each approach too, take what you learn into the next one.

Keep it up and good luck!

~Deebo

_________________
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.