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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:58 pm 
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Of course approaching groups of women is different, I was talking 1 on 1. But even when approaching groups the goal is to isolate and get them 1 on 1 anyway, then you can escalate from there, without her friends judging


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:31 am 
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Of course approaching groups of women is different, I was talking 1 on 1. But even when approaching groups the goal is to isolate and get them 1 on 1 anyway, then you can escalate from there, without her friends judging
I'm thinking about this strategy when comes to approaching sets where you go direct on the target, threaten the entire set then work to disarm them by saying "Hey introduce me to your friends, that's the polite thing to do." and start talking to them. Instead of trying to disarm everybody and try to isolate after that.

Currently I am reworking my openers to make it fit into my character, I'm not ditching opinion openers as they can be useful in street approaches, "You think this shirt makes me look gay" by stu_Notts is actually pretty good. I need something that is playful and fun since that's the character I am currently building into myself. Right now there's an idea that stand out in my mind:

"Give me a cheesy pickup line"
Instead of using a cheesy pickup line, ask the target for one instead and use it on her, and allow her to roleplay being the judge. Here's how it goes:
Me: Hey can you give me a really bad pickup line?
Her: Hmm... How about "Did it hurt when you fall from heaven? Because you look like an angel." (or any other pickup line she gives)
Me: Let's try this out shall we?? *Turn around, and turn back to face her. Place arms on her shoulder or hips and repeat the cheesy pickup line* So how did I go?? :wink: (This needs to be said in a playful tone, and do not let go of your hand after asking her for judgement.)

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:26 pm 
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I think going in with the intention to fail is going to make you dissatisfied with pick up. You'll still get a feeling of rejection, but you'll also get no satisfaction. It's like playing a sports video game. If you only play against the AI then you're not really doing anything. It's more fun to play against other people because it's like it means something.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:54 pm 
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I think going in with the intention to fail is going to make you dissatisfied with pick up. You'll still get a feeling of rejection, but you'll also get no satisfaction. It's like playing a sports video game. If you only play against the AI then you're not really doing anything. It's more fun to play against other people because it's like it means something.
Actually I just discovered that the best is to not give a fuck about the outcome, whether is it a success or not. Go in with too high hopes about succeeding and disappointment ensues, go in with too high hopes of failing will actually hurt your game as the possible success might actually catch you off guard.

Earlier today I went into a nightclub and somehow went into a 'berserk mode' for the first time ever, my character exploded and started accelerated my social momentum like crazy. Basically I stopped caring and went direct on different targets.

I'm not going to list all my approaches but here's the funniest one I made. I went up to my target, gave her a little bit of eye contact and just went in and hugged her, saying "I'm so gonna hug you because you're like a teddy bear..." which she replied "So you're saying up fat??". I replied "Not really, you're adorable" but she seemed to take offense and walked away. I blew that up but it was definitely a funny experience.

Just go in and run your gameplan, don't think of the outcome. If you fail, learn from it and improve next time; if you succeed, congratulations and learn from your success.

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