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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:38 pm 
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hi, im a 17 year old lad... slept with a few girls... currently got a f**k buddy to so im ok in that field. but the whole sparking up a conversation up witha girl is the akward thing for me.

i can talk sound if its is say an arranged meeting... im ok when if ive danced with them and we get talking after... of cause its a lot easier after a few drinks. but even when i have had a few i wont go up and start talking... theres always something telling me what if she doesnt/dont like me and that.

i think its having the balls or maybe because i aint got a clue in the first thing to say, espech if there is a group or if i start speaking then a bf comes over. i have only recently discored pua's through a book, '' the game'' recommended by a friend. still currently reading that but i still have no bottle !

any help?


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quick tips

- every pua has fear of approach, best way to relieve it to approach within the first 3 seconds (called the 3 second rule)
- plan some canned openers - 1 or 2 when you're first starting - to use as default openers.
- an opener is just that, it opens. it only lasts a few seconds, something like 'hi' is even an opener.
- approach over the shoulder and with a smile
- confidence is important, but it's such a broad term. Expect positive outcomes and they will be more likely to happen.
- If you are a genuinely happy person, when you open theyll pick up on that and they will be happy too - emotions are contageous

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:43 pm 
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holy shit bot! any more wonderful advice? (sarcasm)

well if the guru up there doesnt have more reading material to type for you....


why wouldnt she like you?!!! U ARE THE KING OF THE FUCKING EARTH!!! that bitch better think ur funny or else you'll have her dropped off in outer space... and your dick is FUCKING BEAUTIFUL!!!....and YOU ARE THE MOST GORGEOUS, COOL GUY IN THE FUCKIN CLUB!!! THEY SHOULD HAVE A GOD DAMN STAGE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CLUB FOR YOU TO STAND ON SO PEOPLE CAN COME UP AND ADMIRE YOUR BAD ASS!!!....thats the kind of mentality you need to have. thats the mentality i have and P.s. even if you sometimes think...nah shes not good looking enough or she's not worth it. Thats just another form of anxiety. If i even have the thought cross my mind "should i talk to her?" i immediately make up my mind that yes I now have to do it since i thought about it. and i go over there and if she's annoying or ugly up close or boring or a bad dancer or has a boyfriend that is in the area and she wont ditch him or i dont want her number i just want to fuck her that night and she doesnt want to fuck or she does that one thing where she grinds up on ur dick WAYY too hard for any normal girl to wanna do.... I ditch that bitch like a bad habit and move on to the next one. Usually i can tell if im feeling a girl within 2 minutes of meeting her.

NOTE: i didnt say that dumbass 3 second rule bullshit. I just said that i have to talk to her. It could be whenever but usually sooner is always better.

you know what my opener is honestly... i go up to her, look her str8 in the eyes, and say "hey". she says "hey" i say "how u doin?" she says "good. U?" i say "im good sweetheart.. now i say hi to you you say hi to me i asked you a question, you asked me a question, we obviously wanna get to know each other. How about me and you go over to that VIP area over there and talk a lil bit?"

if she agrees she just told you a couple key things...

#1 she doesnt know you
#2 she feels comfortable going somewhere with a complete stranger.
#3 she thinks ur interesting enough to wanna get to know more about you

BUT U GOTTA REMAIN FLEXIBLE WITH THIS SHIT ex> she says no i cant go over there im watchin my friends purse I'd say "REALLY?! is there money in it?! lets rob her and run away and get drunk together?" or she says no i dont wanna leave my friends id say "why not?! im way more interesting than they are" or "well lets stay here then. if things dont work out between me and you i could just start flirting with one of them right?" or "damn thats really sweet of you ma. i wish i had friends like that"

thatts 3 completely diff responses i literally just made up about 10 seconds ago. the last one is for pros though cause u dont wanna come off as looking desperate. its usually better to pull off when she already knows you have cool ass friends.

and remember. women are sometimes just as bad at talking to men as men are @ talking to women. i could by myself keep a convo going with a clueless chick for @ least 20 min. but if ur not good @ it in about 1 min. u'll both have nothing to say... the best is when u meet girls that are just as witty as you one day will be


HOLY SHIT I TYPED ALOT!!!

p.p.s. tell her you own the continent of antartica.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:43 am 
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Lol, yeah... This was a problem for me recently. My new solution is extremely simple, extremely effective, and I feel awesome in my own skin. more comfortable than I have ever been in my life. That was over the span of about... Thursday - Today. So, in a few days Ive gotten more confident than I have in 8 or 9 months. When I first discovered the community.

First I wanna get to some less effective methods. They work great, dont get me wrong, but mine worked wonders for me. Today I picked up two girls with boyfriends. And on Monday I got the rousing suspicion that a girl who really hated me before had a crush on me, one of my best friends older sister hit on me really hard, I accidentally opened a 3-set... Of old ladies! Lmao, weirdest thing Ive done in a while, but I guess they were HBs like 50 years ago. At least I made them feel like those perfect 10s again.

Okay, well I dont agree with what bot says. I dont think every PUA has fear of approach. Some guys are just totally bold, and comfortable in their own skin. I also never use scripted material... But thats a personal choice. Everything has its purpose, and even Brad P endorses having canned material, so its cool.

1. Songs and Self-Confidence CDs.

Whenever youre in a good mood you listen to your iPod (if you have one). Then eventually youll associate that song with being in that mood. Vice versa.

The Self-Confidence CDs can also just be replaced by songs with positive lyrics, and preferably songs you actually like. I tend to avoid something thats depressing or has overly-negative lyrics, even if I like the sound of it because it isnt condusive to my outcome. And this quote I heard a few times, Man becomes what he thinks about most. Theres even a psychology term for this... I think its propinquity, but Im not totally sure. But its when you focus your mind on certain things, then whatever youre not focusing on doesnt even enter your consciousness.

Anyways, listen to it on the ride to school or work. This is when youll know what it says consciously.

And listen to it when youre going to bed every night. Go deep into trance... Fall asleep with it on. Its easier and more confidential for me to do this because I have an iPod, and just put it on there.

But Ive also installed the belief into myself that this isnt completely necessary, it cant hurt anyways... And it makes me feel chill. Apparently, I heard this from a Religion teacher at a private school, 50 min of meditation with these CDs is equivalent to 2 hours of sleep.

2. Meditation.

This can be with the songs and self confidence CDs, or just listening to everything around you. Sitting still, getting rid of any negative thoughts and feelings. This is supposed to focus your mind, maybe make you fall asleep, and stop the chatter in your mind.

After finishing this everyday I feel really *light* (my keyboard is kind of broken... so I cant put parentheses)

3. Vision.

This can be from envisioning what a confident person would do in this situation, to visioning what your life will be like.

This can be like a movie in your mind, or you can write it down, but you cant ever doubt - only the confident belief that it will come true within a specified amount of time.

The process I use to plan things out is called the Vision Map Process... Very creative name :P

It goes in 4 main steps (which you write down btw):

Step 1. List the Most Important Areas of Your Life.
Step 2. List the Most Important Dreams in That Area.
Step 3. State Dreams and Goals.
Step 4. Goals to Steps. List steps to achieve the Goals. Take complex steps and break them down into tasks that need to be completed.

4. Progressional Desensitization.

You just build up your tolerance to it by doing it more frequently. Like going out more often, talking to more people, and taking baby steps to getting over the fear.

5. Approach Anxiety Flooding.

I havent done this one...

This is when you go direct and neg the crap out of girls. And you can peacock as well.

You go out, do something so bold that it makes your senses over-whelmed. The theory is that you get so scared, that doing it the next time wont seem as scary in comparison.

Actually, I kind of did something to this, but it was performing in a play in front of 500-700 spectators. The first time I felt like Id crap my pants, and the repeat performance was just chicken feet. Blew through that with no problems.

Another principle behind this idea is to make yourself say - Hey... that happened, I didnt get slapped. They just walked away. They hurt my feeling... but Im still here!

6. Actual Methods.

This first one is from AFC Adam.
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Talk to three cute girls a day and give them compliments - but immediately walk away.
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Eventually you might stay or they start to react positively, then you realize that you were actually running away from a positive situation - they probably wouldve complimented you back.

From Me (Roxstar). This one is an adaptation of a home-based boot camp. I decided to do this, as well as pick girls up.
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Say Hi to ten strangers a day. I dont count kids in my school, any of them.
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Even if weve never spoken before, Ive never seen them before, or if we talked outside of school. I probably saw them before - so therefore, Im probably more used to them... They also have pre-assumed Social Status, well, me too... But whatever - I dont count them, or anybody I talk to at school anyways.

I count the people I talk to at lunch, and after school, and on the weekends. Im lucky to live close to a mall, so I just go out in any clothes I want - it doesnt matter to me what I wear, it can only make me more comfortable in my abilities if I wear something that looks bad.

Not everybody lives close to a mall... So take every opportunity you can.

Like taking the bus, or going for walks.



Alright, well, I got to go. Those are what I do, and some that I dont. I left out Neediness, and Beliefs & Understandings... You should be fine with just the last two though.


Go crazy,
Roxstar[/b]


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:33 am 
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:lol:


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Roxstar nice post, loads of detail i totally agree with your actual methods bit to combat approach anxiety (as this is my main area that needs improving) Its actually just thinking fuck it and doing itthat's the hard bit...

Me and a friend (who just exudes confidence) are going out tonight to sarge, i think i am going to try working on the compliment thing by AFC Adam. The thing is its never really as bad as you build it up to be and if it is fuck it, you can just walk away its not like a spot light is going to land on you and everyone stop and stare (if that does happen then at least you got a talking point!).... Wow i have managed to talk some confidence into myself, thanks for getting me started Rox.

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holy fucking shit, SORRY FOR TRYING TO HELP. Just because my method - which works - differs from yours, im wrong?

Fuck you and fuck that

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stop flaming each other you assholes


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im not intentionally doing it, but i have a right to defend myself, dont i?

check his votes; he repeatedly has gotten negative feedback for flamming people.

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i have a right to defend myself, dont i?
Work on your Inner Game.


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i have a right to defend myself, dont i?
Work on your Inner Game.
thats funny. points for your chief


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huh? you lost me.

I get bashed for trying to help, so i need to work on my inner game? I don't see the logic in that

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huh? you lost me.

I get bashed for trying to help, so i need to work on my inner game? I don't see the logic in that
b/c you started eflaming each other like unsecure bitches ... thats why he said work on your inner game .


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haha god damn. alot has happened since i last checked in here! well yes i am quite frank on this forum. unfortunately for my rep points some people dont like that. im like simon on american idol u kno? u might hate me but ur still checkin MY SHIT out. well thanks for the attention! but this thread is for neal. i wonder if he's read any of this?

p.s. i dont know what flaming means. sounds like it means talking shit...


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huh? you lost me.

I get bashed for trying to help, so i need to work on my inner game? I don't see the logic in that
alphas don't need to (and thus don't) defend themselves.
something like that


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