I used to be a regular smoker of weed. During this time I developed terrible overthinking habbits, which cemented a seemingly unescapable AFC identity on me.

I gave up almost entrely about 2 years ago, since then my confidence has built massively and I've also discovered game. I find it very difficult to imagine having been successful in game if I had kept up this habit, because it would have never allowed me to move beyond the spiral of over thinking, inaction and poor confidence.

What I would like to know is whether other PUAs have had different experinces from me, or would you all generally agree that it is a counterproductive power? Does anyone out there regualarly smoke as well as regularly game? I'm not sure if it was the actual drug that caused me problems, or the fact that it was anchored to my AFC self image.

I am planning to teach a very good friend of mine the skills I have learned. He is an interesting and funny guy, but very shy and smokes massive amounts of weed. Should I tell him to give up before he starts, or will giving him 2 challenges at once be too much?

Mary Jane is a fickle mistress.

I didn't start smoking bud until November, and it helped my inner game tremendously (that third link in my sig? Brought to you by marijuana). But that probably had something to do with the way I was using it; it was more of an introspective/meditation thing for me, as opposed to a "hooray, let's get blowed and party" or "hooray, let's meld with the couch, eat Doritos, and watch Harold and Kumar" thing.

Going out high is not the best idea in the world. Your speech patterns will be messed up, as will your body language, and you might end up with worse AA than ever before. Or if you smoke just one or two hits, you'll be more relaxed and better than normal. That's certainly been the case for me.

Set and setting, I suppose.

As for your friend, he's got to roll sober when he's starting out. And he can't smoke up and stay home.

In any event, some of the best naturals I know are potheads. Jlaix has also been known to blaze on occasion (nowhere near as much as he used to, though). It's like anything else with weed: it's just a plant. How you use it is YOUR responsibility.

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I smoke ALOT of weed, like between an 8th and a quarter a day, but I cannot sarge high. CANT DO IT. I work high, I hang out high, live high, can't sarge high

So If I plan on going out I don't smoke. I get really socially awkward.

Like on Valentines day, I flaked on my date cuz my best friend came into town, and we just ended up blazing for like 6 hours.

We ended going out to the bar I work at, and I forgot it was V-day, and I was totally under dressed. T-shirt old jeans, Sooooo many bitches there wanting a dick, and i looked like shit and thought everyone was mugging me, I was so uncomfortable.... I rarely go out high after that.

But If I get drunk, then smoke! Get out of town! im the fucking bomb. Then I have liquid courage, and im all creative and shit.

It really comes down to the individual. I have friends who are chronic smokers(seroiusly are high all day everyday) and they function fine.

I do have to agree that crossfading is an experience all its own. I can't pick up a chick to save my life if im high, i really can't function at all. Crossfading is a different story. If i drink a good amount and then take a few rips from a bowl then its just like robot was saying, im the shit. I have to attribute it to the fact that drinking first gets rid of the over-analyzing that usually comes with paranoia due to the weed and then all the good effects of the marijuana are able to run its course. One crossfaded night i literally could not stop dance-walking on the way to a party because i was so happy and having a good time. The girls i was with couldn't stop laughing, whether it was at me or with me i didn't care. It put everyone in a good mood.

it depends on how weed effects you.

I'm sure for some people it would work as a good AA counter.

but for others its just something that makes it hard to foucus & think right to make it happen.

I guess it depends on your game style too, people who are more like naturals would prolly find it easier to game high, were dudes who are like technical would prolly have a harder time.

Sorry, but I gotta lock this thread. Violation of forum rule #3.

All I can tell you, though, is that marijuana is known to turn perfectly ordinary people into unmotivated slackers with no ambitions. Like they say in South Park, the real danger of marijuana is that it makes you OK with being bored. In the context of pickup, I guess that means weed has the great potential to keep you in your comfort zone. And we all know that the comfort zone is enemy territory.

I don't speak from experience since I do not smoke weed or do any other drugs, but I gotta lock this thread regardless. If it's against the law, it's against the forum rules.