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 Post subject: I need help GUYS
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:31 pm 
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I started to read the pickup stuff few months ago and heres the problem, I found that I might seem making friends but actually, they wont really talk to me and talk about themself,so I always have to be the active one. Even so, our conversation wont go very smooth. It was like there was a party dance at night, I have certain interaction with people but then, when I try to hook up with some one that I dont know, we briefly introduce ourselves and I try to be interested in them, I was always the one to carry the conversation ,like I asked stuff about them,blah,blah,blah. of course , I gave them a break to think and to ask or talk... However,they just looking at me and said nothing. I felt like I was running out of things to say and so I leave.
What should I do?

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If She's sending out an IOD and you're interested, the most common mistake a guy will make is to pursue them, what you should do in that case is to freeze them out. Overall you need to realize that you're a high quality man, start treating yourself like you are, and not everyone else's bitch.


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I think you did the best thing you could possibly do... which was leave. Believe it or not man, some girls just don't have conversation to offer (many ways to deal with them), so in general I just leave. If you run into her again at the same party, and she makes eye contact and gives you a smile, then game back on. If she walks past you giving you no acknowledgement whatsoever, just feel sorry for her and her shitty attitude.

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 Post subject: Re: I need help GUYS
PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:13 am 
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I started to read the pickup stuff few months ago and heres the problem, I found that I might seem making friends but actually, they wont really talk to me and talk about themself,so I always have to be the active one. Even so, our conversation wont go very smooth. It was like there was a party dance at night, I have certain interaction with people but then, when I try to hook up with some one that I dont know, we briefly introduce ourselves and I try to be interested in them, I was always the one to carry the conversation ,like I asked stuff about them,blah,blah,blah. of course , I gave them a break to think and to ask or talk... However,they just looking at me and said nothing. I felt like I was running out of things to say and so I leave.
What should I do?
Don't feel like you're doing something wrong. You are putting yourself out there and trying to be social. I admire you for that, because it's more than many guys are willing to do. You are actively working on being better, and that is never wrong.

If someone isn't interacting with you, do not put the blame on yourself. Have the mindset that you are an awesome guy and you are going to do this person a favor and enrich their life by talking to them. Take on the dominant mindset. Do not think "I hope I can make this person like me." Instead, think "let's see if this is someone I'll enjoy talking to."

If they don't talk to you, that doesn't mean there is something wrong with you. They might just be a really boring person, or be shy themselves, or just have poor social skills. Never assume that women all have excellent social skills. If they are not interacting with you, then say to yourself "wow, I don't enjoy talking to this person at all. Let me go find someone more interesting to talk to."

You're not going to click with everyone. So go find someone who you do click with and enjoy talking to.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:56 pm 
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Sometimes we feel like we have to do all the work, otherwise we won't get results. So we have all these lines, these questions, and these things we plan on saying. Then the person just kind of stands there and stares at us blankly, and answers yes or no to whatever we say. While its true that some people are just insipid, it's possible that we aren't engaging them in the proper way. You need to try to find out what makes them tick and get them to reveal more about themselves. Most people love to talk about themselves and their lives, but not so much about you and your life. Therefore you need to gear the conversation in that direction.

This was already covered, but at a certain point if the girl is not responding to you in any sort of meaningful way then that is an IOD, and she's not interested in you. You can freeze her out, move on, or try some other tactic that doesn't involve small talking.

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Everything becomes easier earning experience man. Don't worry, everyone has problems at the beginning!

First of all you should keep the eye contact, if they look away they won't pay attention at your questions and statements (it's like when you're driving and someone phones you: or you aren't really listening at the phone or you aren't paying attention to the road). Keeping the eye contact is a way to make people more attracted to you and what you say.

Don't ask a million question, you're not interviewing the set. I usually make a question and then i estrapolate a content with which i make the conversation flourish. A really interesting topic are travels, for example. You need to connect with your target in as many points as possible, but don't forget other people in the set.

She must not feel the trophy. You are the trophy. Time constraints and push and pull are good ways to grow up your interest in you.

For last part of conversation when i've already found an interest in common, i try to ask deeper questions and then i usually go for number close.

And then, if she gives IOIs, just before going away i ask her: are you happy? With a malicious smile i watch her for a few seconds and then i go away. Believe me this is a killer, if she has your number she will reply in a few hours and then comes text game. The second time you'll see her , you'll at least K-Close her.


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 Post subject: Re: I need help GUYS
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I started to read the pickup stuff few months ago and heres the problem, I found that I might seem making friends but actually, they wont really talk to me and talk about themself,so I always have to be the active one. Even so, our conversation wont go very smooth. It was like there was a party dance at night, I have certain interaction with people but then, when I try to hook up with some one that I dont know, we briefly introduce ourselves and I try to be interested in them, I was always the one to carry the conversation ,like I asked stuff about them,blah,blah,blah. of course , I gave them a break to think and to ask or talk... However,they just looking at me and said nothing. I felt like I was running out of things to say and so I leave.
What should I do?
Don't feel like you're doing something wrong. You are putting yourself out there and trying to be social. I admire you for that, because it's more than many guys are willing to do. You are actively working on being better, and that is never wrong.

If someone isn't interacting with you, do not put the blame on yourself. Have the mindset that you are an awesome guy and you are going to do this person a favor and enrich their life by talking to them. Take on the dominant mindset. Do not think "I hope I can make this person like me." Instead, think "let's see if this is someone I'll enjoy talking to."

If they don't talk to you, that doesn't mean there is something wrong with you. They might just be a really boring person, or be shy themselves, or just have poor social skills. Never assume that women all have excellent social skills. If they are not interacting with you, then say to yourself "wow, I don't enjoy talking to this person at all. Let me go find someone more interesting to talk to."

You're not going to click with everyone. So go find someone who you do click with and enjoy talking to.
Thanks, I just dont wanna be an AFC so i was kicking mys..elf to do better.
At this point, i realized i the majority of my friends at school are girls and now i find it hard to make more friends or get into other social group. I heard rumors that people think i look like a model or a gangster and people are intimidating of me. Even boys and girls wont really give me good respond nor they will engage conversation with me. I tried to keep a good mindset but failures keep striking me down. I just cant figure out whats wrong with me.

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 Post subject: Re: I need help GUYS
PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:02 am 
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She was either not interested, or simply boring and has nothing to talk about.

In both case, you shouldn't waste your time.

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