DTM you are nice guy taking her on dates and all..... What you doing is courting showing all the signs of a good boyfriend very very bad
She's further away from having sex with you now than you realize. I understand she a good girl and all but your playing by her rules of no sex and "pretending" to be content.
She's already made it clear she doesn't want sex take it as a warning and get out before you drive yourself insane.

Think about the normal couples who are having a healthy sex life and walking around with a big smile on their faces then think about your situation........ are you smiling????

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Replicative value (a.k.a R Value) is the rate at which something can duplicate itself. Think a virus, or bacteria, computer virus. In animals and humans, it is the rate at which you reproduce by having children. Men's R Value is far far far far far far far higher than that of females:

The greatest officially recorded number of children produced by a mother is 69 by the first of the 2 wives of Feodor Vassilyev (b 1707-fl. 1782), a peasant from Shuya, 150 miles east of Moscow. In 27 confinements she gave birth to 16 pairs of twins, 7 sets of triplets and 4 sets of quadruplets. The children, were born in the period c. 1725-1765.

I can't find the exact number number for a man, but I know it is in a book called Why is Sex Fun? by Jared Diamond. I think it was something like 3500 or 750, but either way, that's still a hell of a lot of kids.

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well thats bullshit dude. what are we supposed to do besides go on dates, we dont fricken live together. i consider anything from hanging out at my house watching a movie to going out for dinner a "date". i guess i use the term "date" pretty loosely

im not pretending to be content either, im just not caring that much. whatever happens, happens

Don't worry you'll learn about courting for females 2 or 3 weeks without getting any ass first.
and based off what she said about waiting till marriage it don't look too promising
and yes u do care about getting her pants otherwise you wouldn't be male and you wouldn't be posting this topic

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i meant im not caring that much about seeing her or not. right now im pretty much in "dont give a f**k" mode

she sounds very uptight, similiar to a 22 yr old virgin i knew. Shes using it as an excuse, and gave you the shit test "im not going to sleep with you" and you went AFC by saying you arent that kind of guy. so you lied.

you shouldntc have asked if she was a virgin or not, as that makes it appear like its a big deal, I recon when she randomly blurted out that she aint gonna skeep with you you would have been better off giving her the confused "wtf" look, otherwise you have basically accepted her thinking you are like that as being a reasonable thing to think.

the stronger frame wins

its game over in my opionion, move on, or use as pivot.

lol its not game over. im doing fine, i dont need anymore advice now