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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:03 am 
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hey. congrats! you are doing great! thats how i started and i got the "couldnt act normal" "girls looked scared/confused" "huddled and left" reaction a lot. then i stopped approaching. i hated approaching and it made going out torture rather than fun. also i went out to bars and nightclubs for a year instead of applying for jobs. i couldve done my resume in that time, but i kept putting it off! i'm not a pua, im an afc, but i dont think approaching random female strangers is very productive, because it's an uphill battle (most people get freaked out when strangers try to chat them up) and the rejection rate is brutal and guys who subsrcibe to "1000 rejections, 1000 battle marks" idea, i know a few like that who approach a lot, they dont really get better at it. cuz the interaction with a stranger, there isnt that much to learn from it in terms of pro social skills. you can learn to read people better and i guess its aversion therapy in terms of exposing yourself to what makes you anxious, but after approaching for two months, i stopped, and just kept going out and not approaching anyone. then i started dancing. that helped. i danced in public too. dancing in public is pretty easy for me now. but approaching strange women, i dont do it that much, but i found that through taking the dancing lessons and going out alone, the things i was trying to fix at the beginning like not pecking, smiling, planting my feet, just started coming to me naturally. i did group therapy and cbt and positive psychology at the same time too. but im just saying that while it's a good habit to talk to female strangers anywhere you meet (its a perfectly legitimate way of meeting people), it's much easier to get better at this by picking up dancing as a hobby. its great that you go out, even to starbucks, keep doing that. try this, "look at a woman. smile. say how are you?" watch her reaction. dont do anything else and move on. if you were walking, keep walking. if you were standing somewhere, keep standing there. dont come up to talk to her or come closer (well maybe a little is ok, just so it does not look like you are making an effort to approach her). i find that 40% of women smile and say hi back. but they dont look like they wanna talk. once you do that, if they smile back and look you in the eye and say hi back, you can ask a simple one sentence situational question. and just look at them and listen. if they wanna talk, they will give you a hint or will ask you something back. if they dont, they will just fade away. but you also learn a lot of social skills at work. so, yeah keep applying everywhere, even if you dont have a cover letter. once you start applying, you will start actually wanting to work on the cv and the resume more.. i have not had much luck at starbucks, i find its hard to find a girl to sit next to and then if she does not wanna talk, you cant pick up and go sit next to a different girl. most ppl dont talk at coffee shops to strangers, but you should still do it. just open people with a hi and a sentence if they respond positively and let them decide if they wanna continue the convo. i had the most luck at the career help office in my college. sitting in the lobby waiting for my appt, i easily got people who were also waiting and even the front desk girl to talk about themselves. i just smiled, sitting where i was sitting and not moving closer to them at all, i looked at them, smiled, and said hi how are you? they said hi back. i asked if they were a current student. and off they went talking about their career. i just looked at them and listened and agreed with what they said and asked a question. also when you saying hi to girls, if they respond positively you can try flirting by saying "thats a cute shirt you are wearing" or if they say something.

but actually, i did have a 3 hr conversation with a girl at starbucks once and i've had short friendly exchanges with girls there. with approaching people, you cannot predict what will happen, often you think they wont like it, but they end up liking being approached. nice to have someone take an interest in you. just for the beginning though, dont be aggressive and dont beat yourself down. and keep doing other stuff, especially going to groups that are about a hobby - like myabe join a running group or organize your own, take dance lessons, look through your local papers and online for any kind of free or cheap events and just go there. its ok to look out of place, the point is to take yourself on your own two feet to new places and new crowds. eventually by naturally rubbing shoulders with people you will develop social skills and meet people by saying hi. talk to guys too. they will often tell you events they go to that you can go to, if they do anything as a hobby, ask about it, and then go try it yourself.


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Mid year Revisions and thoughts

Here are my Dreams
-I want to be completely independent.


I'm in the process of making this happen. Let's see since starting the beginning of this year I have washed my own clothes, I have said I was going to cook my own meals, to be fair I had a lapse but I'm back on track. Cooking is fun, it is fun to learn new skills.

-At the moment I live at home, I want to be self sufficient. No help whatsoever from my parents.

I'm still living at home, I'm gradually becoming more independent but it is a long slog. I'm in it for the long run.

-I am insured on my parents car, yet I still don't know how to drive to a different city. I am too chicken shit to learn.

With the help of sat nav I've driven to london by myself. I'm now taking the initiative and inviting my friends out for drinks instead of it always being the other way round. I'd like to be able to just pick somewhere to go and drive there and not be afraid of where I might end up. This could be easily achieved.


-I want to do game every other day.

I gave this one a miss, it is too consuming and sometimes constant rejection takes it toll. I've settled with a compromise to open when I go out with the group and if I see an opportunity to be talkative.

-I want to eliminate my Approach Anxiety forever.

Again, this is going to be a long slog. I don't think it will ever go away, my heart races when a cute girl crosses my path, worse if I've opened her before. I need to work on this. The more I open the more this is possible. Preparation is key. Always have openers ready.

-I want to get a great paying job.

Major fail, motivation is my greatest hurdle, now with no internet I need to be driven.

-I want to do volunteer work whilst in the process to keep me busy.
Fail again, I thought I was going to get accepted for volunteer education but got dropped.

-I want to learn another language well.

I've seen a few university courses should be starting in September now is the time to reapply and go for this.

-I want to travel the world.

Again... fail. France was on the radar this July. Let's try and make it happen for August/September.

-I want to stop smoking forever.

Good, I only lapsed at my mate's wedding when we broke open a cigar. But I've been good otherwise. The worry is without the internet I might relapse into bad habits. Let's try not to do this.

-I want to be to procure a great girlfriend, someone who I don't get needy with and I can protect and love.

Again, not much progress, just re-opening seems the major hurdle. The problems with my mates and their sexuality seems to always creep into my problems so now I'm faced with the problem of just acting normal. But I'm sticking with it.


-I want to get to 9 stone, I'm only 5'4 and I want a great gym body by the end of this year.

Almost, 8/1/2 this is a good.

-I have terrible OCD's where I fixate about the past, I want to be able to mediate properly.

Again, I've been good and stopped flipping a coin to determine my future. But I still have little tendancies to watch myself as I walk or talk.


-I want to have great game, physical face-face game.

Again, this is a WIP, I really want numbers to work with now. I'm hungry for it again.

-I want to stop 'Gaming girls' behind the safety of my computer screen or a text message.

Done, but on the flip side I have nothing to work with.


-I am seeing a therapist to discuss my issues.

I finished therapy. I believe I said all I need to say, and I'm not sure how much she could help me with now. I'm on my own. But I have pllans to follow.

-I have a bad internet addiction, I masturbate too much my goal is to get it down to three/two times a week.

Still jack off too much, hopefully no internet will manage this.

-Primary, focus is getting a job... Without money, I have nothing to work with.

Again, still too scared to start applying. I just have to go for it. Rejection is common place.

By the end of this month I want to iron out all my goals in regards to getting a job.

I know it is slow but it does feel like progress. Hopefully, I will be up to AFCDaniel's level at some point. I just don't know when.

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Well, well, well...

I get ready to open that girl in the job centre and even attempt a number close and end up getting seen by someone else. I can't put into words how disappointed and upset I am. I'm hitting a low again.

But let's look at this rationally.

1. There was a slim chance of actually getting seen by her. 1/10
2. I'm doing the same crap as I was doing before. Planning to bump into her in a sneaky non-natural way.
3. I should have asked for her number first time I saw her, months ago.

OK suck it up. These feelings I am having are not normal I just have to condition myself to deal with this and keep moving on.

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Went out with my wing yesterday. Addressed a few issues. I took the car in an attempt to become more independant and repay my friends for driving me around all their lives. We went to see a movie then head off into town. The movie was funny and cheered me up. As i was walking out i thought a good opener would be to ask a set what they thought off the movie. I didn't but it reminded me how i always need to keep thinkin on my toes. Then we moved onto a bar. There was a three set sat down. As we were about to leave all i had to say was ask then where a good place to go tonight. Jesus i totally choked. I took five minutes to build it up, i spoke too softly and at the end i say dont worry i'm not hittin on you! Wtf . However they were polite and seemed helpful. I walked off nervously. Then in another bar went went to it was quite unusual because there was lots of toys there and i realised it was part of a toy shop. It was a great opener to ask what the deal was. The set was foreign students so it was hard to understand. Then we went to a high class bar and that is where i began to choke. Again my perfect two set. Two petite asian girls were sat on the table. I just froze. My wing literally forced me to open. I'm so thankful because he knows i would have been beatin myself up for the rest of the night. And surprisingly it didn't in all that bad. I delivered my opener and they seemed keen. What i realised is if i look smart, it goes a long way to open the set well. I was very nervous and i wondered if i hung on in there would a number close have been possible? Then we hit a club, we actually followed the two set i opened! The club was good. I noticed a lot of girls were dancing close to me. They were very young. I guess i was dressed for that occasion. I need to learn how to dance and move in. The club had a unique room where there was no music but everyone was wearin headphones. Over all. It was a good night. The lesson i learned is it is good to push to do the hardest thing. Dress smart and act more dominant..

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Practice makes perfect. Went out for a few quiet ones. Again just concentrating on the basics nothing advanced. Basically perfecting the art of opening and it's definitely getting easier. Looking good helps so much. My wing was giving me feedback. I talk way too fast. I need to slow things down a lot. Also, i dont know how to transition it into flirting? It's very clinical. My next goal is to practice that free writing exercise. And to try and stay in the set for as long as possible. Asking open ended questions will help me achieve this goal... Going out tomorrow as well cos it's bank hols. Try to put into practice everything i've learned. But everybody was right. You need to perfect the art of just opening before you can in onto number closing. I want to do this the right way now no matter how long it takes.

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Ok I was feeling really low yesterday.

But today finally got my ass into gear and completed my CV woo. And have applied for one job.

There is a virus on my website so I need to clean that out first before putting my online c.v.

Now, here is my plan.

Apply for at least three jobs a week. Jobs I actually want. If after some time I am still not getting the results I require I will lower my goals and go for lesser jobs.

Also, I find working in public more determined so I'm going to continue this route.

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Ok,

I've finished my C.V and put up an online portfolio. Hopefully, this should get me further opportunities when it comes to applying for jobs online.

I'm yet to see this but let's give it some time.

I've also met up with a former colleague and he has provided me with the best, so far, opportunity to get back into work.

I've sent him my portfolio to look at. I will contact him today to ask if he has any thoughts.

Tonight, I am going to a boxing show by myself...

I plan to dress well, congruent to the scene, so a slightly more thugish look is preferable. I plan to open at least three random sets and stay in for as long as possible.

I plan to talk and try to be sociable with some of the guys I already know from the club.

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It was a funny night out. I opened a two set at the beginning of the night with... Don't tell me you're on the cocktails already. They seemed talkitive and responded well. The funny thing was when they was leaving they asked me how my night was and wished me goodbye. Just makes me think what would have happened if i pushed it a little further? I tried to be socialable with the people i knew i feel i did that. I sat next to a girl who i found out was with her brother. She was my ideal type but was hard work. She didnt seem interested at all. Then we went to another bar and i opened a girl saying her cock tails looked amazing. Again she was very chatty. But then i got turned away from a bar cos of the trainers i was wearing. I think i need to push my boundaries for the one. I also made another connection with work.

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Small update.

The bad bits
Life doesn't make it easy for you at all. Seriously, everyday I wake up and feel like giving up. I've applied for three jobs a week and I've had nothing solid back at all.

My friend who promised me something hasn't got in contact with me.

Volunteering - Again nothing back...

The goals.
My goals for this week is to get enrolled on the Spanish course, this will give me another means to get out and be social.

Another mate has asked to design a site for his dad. I can do this and get some money though it is nothing much.

I'm also learning how to drive a bit more. I'm taking a couple of mates to a comedy show in Nottingham this weekend. Hopefully, it should be a good laugh.

Also, I want to grab my ticket for France. I want to go before the end of this year and it will be something to look forward to.

So... mid-week goals are:
-Enroll on the Spanish Course
-Try to start my tuition again
-Book a ticket to France
-Keep going with the job applications
-Go into town and open five sets

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Well, well, well...

I get ready to open that girl in the job centre and even attempt a number close and end up getting seen by someone else. I can't put into words how disappointed and upset I am. I'm hitting a low again.

But let's look at this rationally.

1. There was a slim chance of actually getting seen by her. 1/10
2. I'm doing the same crap as I was doing before. Planning to bump into her in a sneaky non-natural way.
3. I should have asked for her number first time I saw her, months ago.

OK suck it up. These feelings I am having are not normal I just have to condition myself to deal with this and keep moving on.
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Hopefully, it should be a good laugh.


What's up with the wishy washy talk? That thing between your legs is a penis, don't forget. You're a man.

What's your favorite flavor of pie? Tell me you fucking LOVE apple pie, damn it. . or are you going to tell me " I guess I like apple pie a bit , it's kinda ok "

Make an assertion and go with it. If you're planning to renovate your house , it's a guarantee that you are going to change things as you go along. You might decide to configure the lighting a different way, or change the floors. Any intelligent person knows this. Or are you going to sit around and never get to doing it? " Oh , I don't know , maybe I should make the floor Oak. No, it should be Maple. Oh, I guess it might be OK, but I'm not sure, ooh my. "

Make a decision. If you're going to go left, go left. If you're going to go right, go right. Either way, you're going to run into problems, challenges, and shit. That's life. Accept that and get moving.

When you go to the ice cream shop, do you have difficultly selecting what kind of flavor you want? How about the toppings? You remind me a lot of myself. I'm going to post this into my own journal, it's something to reflect on.
I remember this post but I'm not sure if it's a good fit with this thread at this point in Tweeby's journey. It seems Tweeby has already made plenty decisions and moved forward with them. I think it's just a matter of time until things begin to click.

Years ago, a 'muscle nutrition' company launched a contest as a marketing effort. They urged people to go on their program and take before and after photos. Most Improved participants won a corvette + money + endorsements. The winners were happy about their improved physique but 90% of the raves were about how the program positively affected the other aspects of their lives. They wrote about how getting on a program and sticking with it improved their social and professional lives. They raved about their improved self esteem and outlook. Success in one part of your life will absolutely affect other areas. This will kick in . . . and things will start to improve exponentially.

@Tweeby, just keep going. Keep opening, opening, opening. Feel good about this. You are doing something you have not done before . . . you're already 'winning'. Open enough and you'll find that plenty girls will be more than just receptive. They will in fact game you and it seems you've already experienced this. You only need to tune in to what's going on right in front of you.


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Thanks guys, your feedback is helpful.

At every moment, I feel like giving in, but the plan allows me to move forward.

I went to Nottingham on the weekend and planned to open five sets. Managed three, with lukewarm results because they weren't in my league (much taller than me.)

My other mates, who are better looking and already have girlfriends managed to get numbers and kiss close. I lost momentum during this phase. I need to keep going even when others are doing well, really I should have used this to keep going, but I wasn't feeling all that comfortable with what I was wearing. I need to get some good FUCKING shoes LOL.

I'm waiting for that exponential effect to kick in but it seems sometimes like the whole world is against me. I realise this is just an unrealistic emotion.

Booked my Spanish course, tomorrow I'll do the ticket to France.

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Quick update. My gym routine is working well. Like the rest of my life it is now organised and i stick to my set goals. When out yesterday to get my prescripton and noticed a cute black girl at the counter. I made good eye contact and asked if she was new. She said yes and was nervous around me and forget me to give me my change which i negged for. Clearly it is all about state. Tomorro i'm driving to a new city with the sat nav. I'm gonna do day game and push my boundaries. I want to attempt at least one number close. Before i'll write up a few openers to get ready. I liked kasabi sayin if you keep going eventually success will have an exponential effect. This gave me great encouragement where everything at the mo seems like an uphill struggle.

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Well now i can drive to another city without issues but the opening was. Not so great. I opened one girl and asked her where the toilets were, the best i got was a shop assistant, she had a really cute accent which i found adorable, i could have teased her a bit but i didnt. Anyway, i wasn't much in state and was no way attempting a number close. I don't know, maybe i'm just a pussy. Next time i'll in to another city and try it again.

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I guess this goes beyond PUA, so I'm not sure if I should be posting this. But I started a new Spanish class a week ago. First week was OK, there even was this girl who I liked and spoke to.

This week, bam! All out of the window, because when I'm in a social scenario I go all paranoid... I know this stems from my guilt of sleeping with hookers. I know these people don't know a shred about me, but I start to get panicky and I know I project this! ... Or do I?

I know this is just an emotion. Nobody there knows me, yet despite this, every fucking time it's the same story. This is seriously, blocking any progress I could potentially make.

I've seen my shrink, and I still don't have really any real way to move forward.

Maybe it is just a case of keep going with social situations. The thing that irritates me is when I go back to my house, I look in the mirror, and I know I look good.

And one girl who was sat next to me didn't seem to notice... I know this is just an emotion in my head, but I'm wondering what to do.

I've got another 'going out' event as I'm driving to another city to celebrate my cousin's birthday. I can already feel that it is going to be one of those, I'm going to get weird scenarios. Hmm, how to deal with this negative/destruction thought processes?

I guess that's my next hurdle.

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