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Ptown, thanks for the vote of confidence! We are certainly having some success, but we have a looong way to go. I have a better starting place than many who pursue PU because I’m a bit of a natural (and I’m a few years older than your average beginner). I don’t really suffer from AA and I’m socially calibrated. My biggest issue has always been that I ended up in these relationships that I really didn’t want to be in. I realize that I wasn’t really getting hung up on the gal; I was getting hung up on wanting her to want me. Does that make sense? I know now that options (and confidence in my ability to create them) is the answer. I have a completely different outlook when I have a list of hotties to text when I’m feeling the urge to merge than when I have only one.

The other area I want to progress in is being a good…no, great wing. I’m lucky to have LeDuke (who is making blazing progress). We really do count each other’s success as important as our own. I’ve seen enough fellas step on each other’s toes to know how truly rare that is.
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Rasta, I’m not trying to be a dick but you could’ve PMed that. We’re trying to keep this journal on track with only discussion pertaining to our progress or FR’s. For the sake of clarity and readability, please leave personal messages like that off our journal. Thanks.


Now on to the full FR on
Opening…and closing…Kee. A SNL to remember
As LeDuke covered, we were having a bust of a night. I opened the mixed 2 set with a cute black girl, who was really my style. I used a great relationship based opinion opener and they hooked immediately. I found out that they were not a couple. I went right into a funny DHV story that sets the frame that I’m promiscuous, non-egotistical and non-judgmental. I disarmed the male pretty quickly and we were high fiving like old friends. I used body language (rocking out) to draw her closer until she just took an empty seat next to me.

I lock her in by telling her I love her scarf and we should switch. I love the scarf lock in! I ask LeDuke to take a picture of us and use that as a compliance test and a chance to ramp up the kino. I put my arm around her waist and pulled her into me. She responded by putting her arm around me and rubbing my back! We stalled by reviewing the pic and decided to take a better one. I held her to me the entire time.

At that point LeDuke encouraged me to escalate the kino. Good advice, wing! I moved her chair closer to mine and made sure our legs were touching (and rubbing) every time we were both seated.

Someone gave her a bag of chips. She offered LeDuke and me some. I took a single chip out of the bag and held eye contact with her as I gently fed it to her. From then on, I would occasionally feed her a chip…sometimes when she was in mid-sentence, talking to her friends!

Enter wannabe AMOG#1.
She spots this guy coming over and says
Her: Oh great; this guy is totally obsessed with me
Me: Yeah? Oh good. He looks like a nice guy and handsome too. Why don’t you give him a shot?
Her, grinning: Shut the fuck up.

He comes over and starts hitting on her right away. I turn my upper body away and start responding to some text messages, ignoring the both of them. She kept kinoing me though, by rubbing my leg. He eventually noticed this and got sore. He was either trying to impress her or intimidate me, because he started telling a story about how he had just roughed some dude up outside. She wasn’t impressed. She just turned away and started talking to her other friends. That’s when he raised his fist to show me his busted knuckle.
Him: See what dumb mother fuckers who come to this bar make me do
Me: Wow. Well, sometimes shit happens. You gonna be okay?
Him, mean mugging me: Yeah, I’ll be okay. I’m going to leave now before I get mad.

Okay. Being nice wasn’t disarming him. I had to send a subtle message that my patience had limits and I wasn’t intimidated by his busted knuckle and big talk. I leaned closer to him, looked him in the eye and said, quietly enough that Kee didn’t hear:

"That’s probably a good fucking idea."
I stayed calm, with a blank expression and just held his eye contact until he wandered off.

Somewhere around that time, LeDuke's cute ass target came in. Let me tell you, at first her bitch shield seemed strong but LeDuke lowered it with smooth game. He ran a great set. I see soooo much improvement since we started going out together back in Nov!

Enter wannabe AMOG#2
A little later she told me that another one of her admirers is approaching. He comes up, drunk as fuck, and starts in on her. He’s asking her to give him a chance to fuck her. Really. This time, I disengage from her completely. I rock out of the set and again started checking and sending text messages. She politely refuses him and comes to me, sitting close and rubbing my leg.
Him: Hey man, I’m just trying too…
Me: No sweat, player. Do what you do. I ain’t mad at ya.
He laughes, gives me five, and wanders off. She smiles so big at me and says
Her: I don’t know what to think about you, Hank
Me: Be on the safe side…assume the worst
Her: You totally need to take me out sometime
Me: Oh I do, do I?
Her: Yeah, you need take me on a date.
Me: Oh, see we have a problem there. I don’t really do that.
Her: Do what?
Me: The whole dinner and movie date thing. That’s a little outdated, don’t you think? What, are we in junior high?
Her: haha, oh I agree. I’d rather just stay in and cook dinner and watch a movie or some shit.
Me: Now that’s a date I can commit to. Here, take my number.

She does and texts me immediately so I have hers. Notice how she switched to match my frame?

We have fun conversation for the rest of the night. I use a little push pull, but mostly just basic charm. Come to find out, we have a lot of similar interests. This chick is cool as fuck and I’m finding her more attractive by the minute.

Closing time. I notice LeDuke get the number of his target and tell her good bye. I hand him my car keys (I drove) and tell him to warm up my car. Kee tries to give my scarf back, but I tell her to hold it for a minute. I asked her where she’s parked and she says out back. So I say, “Well, let me walk you to your car. We’ll switch scarves there.” At the car, I tell her I’ll have my scarf back but I just use it to pull her closer to me. I hold eye contact and say “Give me a kiss” as I move in to kiss her. She playfully pulls back and teases me, but I maintain by gently pulling her close and going in for the kiss every time she pulls away. Finally, she gives in and we make out like teenagers against her car for several minutes. I slap her ass one good time before I say goodbye and walk away.

As I’m driving LeDuke back to his car, bragging about the kiss close, my phone rings. It’s Kee. She says it’s a shame I have to go back to LeDuke’s place when I could’ve just come home with her. I explain that I’m just dropping him at his car and I can be at her place directly after. She gives me direction.

Once at her place, it was on. This gal gave me NO LMR! What a change from my recent close with K. We were naked, hard at it, within an hour of me walking in her door. Holy hell; her body is super sexy. Big, firm, natural tits and an ass like…well…a black girl. The sex was great; uncommonly filthy for a first time together. There was dirty talk, the best head I’ve had in ages, name calling and a facial involved. I didn’t leave her place until late the next afternoon…and I spent the night with her again last night!

I didn’t use any real routines on her but, by reading the report, you can see that I used several PU techniques. I can honestly say that before discovering PU, I would not have talked to this girl, much less gotten a SNL!

To echo LeDuke, the moral of the story is; open, open, open. The next set may be the one that turns your night around!

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Oh and one last thing...my peacocking did not work for me. I ditched the hat pretty early. I won't be wearing that out ever again.

-LeDuke
It doesn't tend to. Mystery said, "If you can't pick up in jeans and a tshirt then what's the use in peacocking..." so why not just do jeans a shirt?

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Short Update

Update with the Filipino girl I met last week with Hank. We'll call her Cee. I had talked to her earlier in the week and suggested we meet for some coffee or something today before I had to go into work for her birthday. She agreed. Today when I woke up, I had a text from her inviting me out to her birthday dinner. At first I was a little put off. I wanted some 1 on 1 time with her, but whatever, I'm working to become a PUA. I'll use this to my advantage.

Conferred with my wing Hank about the situation to get some advice and ideas. I texted her that I couldn't stay long because I had to work, but I'd pop in to wish her a happy birthday. This was to give myself an out in the event her friends were lame or I felt awkward and uncomfortable since I wouldn't really know anyone. When I arrived, she was the only one there. Gave her a hug and talked for a short bit then her friends started trickling in. Game time! I went after her friends engaging them as often as I could. I wanted to demonstrate that I can get along with anyone and am fun under any scenario. Worked out great. I had all her friends laughing and asking me questions. I was a social butterfly.

At one point, one of her friends made a joke to me about my virginity being stolen. When she did, Cee jokingly said it was her that stole my virginity. I took this as an IOI. I ended up sticking around for a good bit and actually had a good time. Her friends were fun. When I left, I gave her a hug goodbye and suggested we doing something this Friday. She agreed. When I left, I gave one of her closest friends a ride to his car. After I dropped him off, I texted her:

ME: Enjoyed your friends. Glad you got to see me ;)
HER: Lol. I'm glad you got to see me!!
ME: Indeed! You looked hot! Almost as hot as me!
HER: Almost! But I think I will take that as a compliment anyway.
ME: It was. We were the 2 best looking in that place. Btw, totally gonna use you to get close to *Guy friend*. He's a cool guy.
HER: Haha. Use me anyway you want
ME: Anyway I want? Wow, you move fast
HER: Haha
ME: Well get back to your friends. Sorry my job ruined you plans of getting me drunk and taking me home. Another time maybe.
HER: Maybe. ;)
ME: If you're lucky. Have a good night and I'll talk to y later. Happy birthday!
HER: Thanks LeDuke the Lion! Hope your night gets as interesting as mine.

So, I guess we'll see what happens this Friday. Looking forward to hanging out with her. She's hot as hell! She looks like Tia Carrera.

-LeDuke


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Great field report guys.

Hank - I love how you dealt with the amog #1. Was this at foobar?


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This report is a little different. It doesn't have anything to do with an approach or any of the early phases of PU. It does fall into the catagory of progress for me because it deals with maintaining an arrangement that is rewarding for me while not compromising my own position by allowing a woman to think I'm going to be exclusive to her.


Managing the frame
So, I haven’t seen K in about a week. After I closed her, I saw her twice within the next few days with tentative plans to hook up again the following week. Well, I kind of flaked on her due to meeting (and closing) Kee, with whom I spent the next few days. Well, I wanted to see K again, but wondered how she would respond to me disappearing like that. I text her: Pick a day this week you want to sleep in. I’ll come over for a nap and breakfast.

She picked Tuesday.

When I got to her place early in the morning, I joined her in bed. We kissed and snuggled a bit, but she kept pulling back and looking at me suspiciously.
Finally:
Her: I’ve missed you. I was kinda mad at you for disappearing like that
Me: You were? That’s cute.
Her: Cute!?
Me: Yeah, it means you like me. It’s cool. I missed you too, I’ve just been busy. Hey, it’s good to see you now.
Her, playfully: I’m suspicious of you. You’ve been with your other women.
Me: Oh stop it; enjoy this moment with me, okay?
A this point we start fooling around again…she pulls away again and playfully tells me she’s suspicious and mad. This girl’s ASD is still there!
Her: I’m just nervous and suspicious
Me: Listen, I like you and want you. I don’t feel nervous, suspicious or guilty about that so I’m going to act on it. Here’s what going to happen. *here I start kissing her neck* I’m going to kiss you all over. I’m going to remove your shirt and kiss your tits. Then I’m going to take your panties off and lick your pussy. Then I’m going to take you and have my way with you. At any point, if you feel uncomfortable, you can say no. But you have to say it. If you say it, I’ll stop…but make sure you mean it, because I’m going to stop completely.

Then I proceed to do exactly what I told her I was going to do. She loved it. It turned into a hot game of her putting her hands up to push me away and me just pushing them aside and continuing to have my way with her.

I hope (and think) she recognized that I was speaking about more that just that moment. I wanted to share control with her. I wanted her to know that we can stop this at anytime if she’s not happy with it…but those are the only options I’m comfortable with; proceed as we are, or stop.

From this point on, she gave me no resistance all day. We had an awesome day together. I took a lot of pics of her (in her panties!) and a nice video of us kissing. We ate and went out to a cool little event. We had sex a total of 3 times before I had to leave.

There was one other moment where my frame was tested but I held strong. She made some joke about me comparing her to my other 3 or 4 girlfriends.
Me, grinning and winking: There’s no comparison. You’re by far the best one.
She smiled and playfully slapped me saying, “you’re horrible”

And that was that. She didn’t challenge my frame or try to have “the talk”. I think she knows that “the talk” would be the end of our little affair, as I’m not going to be tied down or make any commitment other than to respect her boundaries. She seemed to accept my frame and just enjoy our time together.

On another note, I accomplished another goal I’d set for 2012. It’s not technically game related and I’m not really comfortable sharing the details here, but I’m very pleased and proud of myself for acting when the opportunity fell in my lap and push myself to try something new.

End of FR

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Update

Well I had typed out this whole update last night before going into work and then hit preview and not submit. I'll try again.

Where: Nashville area

Who: Hank Panky & LeDuke

Thursday night we went out as usual. We met up with another aspiring PUA at a coffee shop who just wanted to meet and chat. We offered the knowledge we had and shared tips and ideas. He seems like a cool guy and I'm sure he'll be out with us in the near future. While we were in line at the coffee shop, I opened up a HB9. It was mostly a practice/warm-up opener and didn't go very far. Although, I probably should have pushed the interaction as far as I could. Oh well.

After coffee, Hank and I went to the restaurant the girls we met last week work at. We bantered with the girls a bit and I worked more game with Cee. Seemed to be going well. I was upping the kino and making good eye contact. Invited her to join us for a drink at another bar when she got off to which she agreed. We then left and headed out to the other bar.

We get to the bar, found a table, and got some drinks. Hank opened a couple girls at the bar when he went to get the drinks. I was watching to see if he hooked and then I planned to move in to wing him. The set didn't hook though. After a while, Cee finally shows up...but it's a bit strange. She didn't join us. In fact, she didn't even look for us. She joined a table with 3 other guys. Hank walks past her on his way to the bathroom and she spots him. She talks to him and asks where we are. Hank points me out and she says she'll come over there in a bit. A little later I went to the bathroom and on my way back to the table she stops me to hug me and talk for a bit. Tells me she'll come join us in a few. Well, she never joins us.

We opened a 2 set sitting next two us. Both HB8's. Talk to them for a bit then they ordered some food and were too distracted to be bothered by us. Eventually a group of guy friends joined them. We re-opened them later on, but it was poor timing as they were leaving. Just poor performance on our part honestly. No excuses here. We could have done much better.

Eventually, the girl Hank met last week shows up to join us with one of her friends. I figure Cee might join us at this point, but nope. She never does. When it comes time to leave, I tell her I'm getting out of here and she stops me to hug and brings up us hanging out tomorrow (Friday). I say yea, we're still on and I'll hit her up in the evening. While we are talking, I've got my hands wrapped around her waist and her hands on my shoulders. We were both making intense eye contact and I really felt like she wanted to kiss me. However, I doubted myself because she was around a bunch of her friends and didn't go for it when I should have. I definitely fucked up here.

Next day...Friday

So, Friday evening rolls around and I shoot her a text asking what she's doing. She says she's getting ready to go out to dinner with an old friend and then wanted to know what I had planned. I told her we were going ice skating and to just let me know when she's done. Never heard from her. Oh well, so I end up chilling with a buddy of mine. Well, she finally texts me at like 12:05 am saying she was just getting home and they had a late dinner and hung out. I tell her its cool, I went out with some friends anyway and maybe we can just hang another time. She asks if I'm working the next day and I tell her yes but I have some time to kill before I go in. So, she agrees to hang out. I'm not holding my breath here.

Saturday
I wake up to a text message saying she got us tickets to the circus and we're going. Whatever, I'll go to the circus. However, she then calls me a bit later and says she's running late and that we probably won't make the circus. So I tell her to just come to my place and we'll go grab a bite to eat and hang out a bit. She gets to my house and I grab her hand and give her a tour around the house. We go to dinner and I'm being playful and fun. She's laughing. I flirt with the hostess a bit and just have a good time. Dinner goes well. When we get back to my place she only stays for about 5 minutes as she had to leave to meet up with friends for a show one of them was performing. As we hug good bye, I make intense eye contact and then tell her I'm curious about something as I lean in to kiss. She turns away to give me the cheek and smiles. I stop mid way and just kind of hold, smiling. I then told her, "oh is this too far?" and wait for a second. She doesn't go to kiss back so I just let her go as if it wasn't a big deal. As I walk her to the door, she opens the door and says:

Cee: Yea, I'm not sure you'd like the taste of my Dr. Pepper chapstick
ME: *closing the door* No, don't give me any bullshit excuses. You either want to or you don't. Now which is it?

I then leaned in and kissed her. Wasn't a make out session by any means. There wasn't even any tongue. It was just 3, slow, sensual kisses. I then wished her a good night and said she could text me if she got bored. I really don't know what to make of this chick. I get IOI's from her, but I'm not even sure they mean anything at this point. She's pretty confusing and I'm kind of at a loss. At this point, I'm thinking I need to just back off and let her come to me. If she doesn't then maybe send her a text inviting her out whenever I'm doing something fun to see if she bites. I know the problem...the problem is I want her too much. I need to just put her out of my head and focus on gaming other broads.

-LeDuke


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LeDuke covered our Thursday, but he left out the fact that we had a blast! Yeah, we opened sets (none of ‘em too spectacular), built some more social proof, but we also had a really good time. I laughed till my stomach and face hurt. Remember e’erybody, this is a game. Games are supposed to be fun. Have some.

Now my report from last night titled:
I am still a pig…another SNL for your boy, Hank

Kee and I had plans to go to a cool little bar for an event being held there. We were both meeting a lot of our friends there. I packed a gym bag with some clothes, hygiene items and phone charger and headed to her place a few hours early. We hung out until time to go. Now, this gal likes me a lot. She’s chill with the way things are but I can tell she’d like me to be her man.

I have mad social proof at the particular bar we went to. I had some good friends there and some admirers, for lack of a better word. All night, Kee kept fresh drinks in my hand and although we weren’t all up on each other, people knew we were there together…which made the other gals there more interested. See, I’m not a minger but I’m no Adonis either. I know what people are thinking when they see me with a HB (in this case, a hotass black girl!).

We were all having a blast. There was a lot of drinking and dancing. I wasn’t really sarging since I was there with someone, but I was increasing my social proof and gaining some jealousy game with a couple of gals. Towards the end of the night, HB6.5 (devil in a red dress) gets my attention. She had messy hair (what I call heroin addict hair) and plenty of tattoos. We started dancing and it turned sensual/sexual very quickly; grinding and ass grabbing. As we danced, I looked her in the eye and said,
Me: You’re fucking hot
Her: You’re fucking hot
Me, pointing at my cheek: Yeah? Put one right there then
**She kisses my cheek
Me: good girl. Now put one right here *I point at my lips
Her: What about your girlfriend?
Me: What girlfriend? I don’t have a girlfriend!
Her: That girl you are here with…
Me: Yeah, I’m here with someone, but she ain’t my girlfriend.
Her: Oh, well…
Me: Come here…

This girl was with it. I took her by the hand and led her into the women’s bathroom where I placed her up on the sink and made out with her. Someone came in and caught us, so I moved her into a stall where I pulled her tits out, kissing them and rubbing her pussy under her dress. After a few hot minutes, we agree to rejoin the party before people notice we’re missing. Back in the bar, I tell her I want to see her again. She says she does too, so I use the how-do-we-make-that-happen line as I take my phone out. As soon as I put her number in, and call it, I see one of Kee’s friends eyeballing me. Shit.

I said a quick goodbye and went looking for Kee but her friend had found her first. She was upset and the copious amount of alcohol she’d consumed wasn’t helping. It’s understandable. We’re not in an exclusive relationship of any kind, but we were there together. I took her home and went into damage control mode, thinking to myself “why do I get myself into this shit? What the hell’s wrong with me?” A few minutes later, the red dressed temptress texted me “Are you alone?” and my mindset did a 180. I answer “Not at the moment, but I can be…”.

An hour later, I’m at her house doing things I’m almost ashamed of. I left Kee’s, saying that there was something I had to go take care of at work and that I’d be back shortly. Holy shit, this gal was a hot fuck! Filthy. We fucked a total of 3 times before I left (not counting the fucking I gave her with her glass dildoe!).

Around 8:15am, I text LeDuke: This is going to be a hard one to explain. I’m just now leaving the blonde’s house. My shit is all at Kee’s and I smell like three months of sex.

When I got back to Kee’s, she was in bed. I found a work related excuse to have a shower before I joined her. I was hoping like hell that she was too tired to expect anything to happen because my dick was shriveled and worthless. Luckily, she was still drunk so we just passed out.

This morning, she was laughing about how upset she got last night. If she only knew…

The lay was a fool’s mate. Social proof and inadvertent jealousy game did all the work for me. I just recognized the signs and acted.

So, I’m +3 in 2012 so far. Yeah, skipping out on one girl to go bang another one, only to return when I’ve finished, is a little sleazy but hey; I can live with that.

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All I can say about the above report is it definitely earns the JSmooth Seal of Approval! :) NICE! I'm still laughing....thinking of the shit I pulled off doing stuff like that. Finding an excuse to shower first is obviously key. ;) Doing be too ashamed of whatever you did with her cause I want details when I see you later on.

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Where: Nashville area

Who: LeDuke, Hank Panky, & VFresh

VFresh is another member from this forum whom had been talking to Hank and I about coming out with us one night. After some exchanges and meeting him in person last week to see how we would all mesh together, we decided to bring him out with us tonight. We initially meet up for some food and discuss game. VFresh has lots of a questions and is eager to learn. So, we discussed what all we've experienced so far and how we've adapted. After that, it was time to hit the first bar.

It being a Thursday and still chilly out, the bar scene isn't very exciting, but there are a few people out. We go to our usual jump off spot. Greet our bartender friend, order drinks, and take a seat at the bar. Immediately to my right is a 2 set. Both of them 8's...one maybe even arguably a 9. I waste no time and hit them with an opinion opener of my own. It hooks beautifully. We talk and banter for a bit and I start to stall, so eject for the moment to "get back to my friends" with the intent to reopen later. After a while, Hank goes outside to smoke. I ask VFresh to go with him and leave me in the bar by myself for the moment. When he does, I go and reopen:

ME: My friends left me to smoke. I don't smoke, so you guys are going to be my friends for the moment.
HB8: Oh ok

We start chatting again. I run the usual questions to gain some info (how do you know each other? what do you do for a living?). After some talk, I start getting IOI's.

HB8: When's your birthday?
ME: Why? What are you getting me?
HB8: I'm just curious.
ME: No, you want to know my sign. That's why your asking. What do you think I am?
*HB9 decides she wants in*
HB9: Aquarius!
ME: No! *enthusiastically*
HB9: Leo!
ME: Nicely done. You're right. I mean, isn't it obvious? Look how awesome I am.
HB8: I was actually about to say Leo!
ME: Sure you were

Hank and VFresh then come back in to tell me they are headed down the strip to a club and to catch up with them. I then turn to my new found friends and tell them my friends are leaving and I must join them.

ME: Well my friends want to roll to another spot, so I gotta run. This was fun and you've got an awesome energy though! Give me your number and lets do something.
HB8: Yea, definitely!
*as she is giving me her number, HB9 then inadvertently wings me*
HB9: You guys look really cute together. I mean I'm not suggesting anything, I'm just saying. You look cute.
ME: What? Really? I was actually hitting on you though.
HB8: Yea, see!
*we all share a laugh*
ME: Well it was great meeting you. And I'll text you later and we'll get together sometime.
HB8: For sure. Nice meeting you.

After walking a bit passing some dead spots, we find a bar that seems to be pretty lively. We go in and the cocktail waitress is smoking. She's wearing shorts, a tube top, and knee high socks. I open her:

ME: Hey, I love your socks!
HER: Aren't they awesome?!
ME: They are. I approve.
HER: Thanks. You want a shot?
ME: Nah, I don't drink. Look at you already trying to get me drunk. We just met.
HER: Haha
ME: You workin hard?
HER: Hardly workin!
ME Thata girl.

She then wanders off. I decided I'll reopen her again and just go direct. I still don't know much about hired gun game. I figured I'm just gonna go for it and get blown out. Next time she comes back around, I stop her.

ME: Hey, listen. I don't normally do this, but if I don't ask now I'm gonna be mad at myself later.
HER: Ok...
ME: I want your number!
HER: Haha, I can't
ME: No, you can. Really, I don't mind.
HER: Haha, well I could, but I can't
ME: Oh I see. Well here, I'll give you a chance to give me a fake number. Just throw something at me so I can pretend I succeeded.
HER: No, I wouldn't want to lie to you.

Oh well, I tried. Hank tried to open a girl walking by but she straight mean mugged him lol. VFresh opened a couple girls, but they were short interactions. His approach is good, he just needs to work on mid game and comfort building. I opened a cute blonde girl, but it didn't go anywhere. We decide to roll out to another spot.

Next bar we hit is also dead. I gotta take a piss though. So, Hank and VFresh decide to order a drink. When I get back to them, a 3 set walks past us and Hank stops them with an opinion opener. It gets a good reaction and we're in. All 3 girls were around a 6. Not your typical bar hotties, but cute enough to practice on and give VFresh a chance to see how Hank and I work together. I already know who his target is, so I immediately pull off one of the obstacles. We all banter and talk for a minute before deciding to shoot some pool. Hank arranges the teams as him with his target and my target, and me, VFresh, and the other girl on the other team. A lot of playing and joking during the game. At some point in the socializing, our targets swap. Hank's original target is obviously into me and Hank seems to be doing well with the girl I was gaming. So...we switch. Meanwhile, VFresh decides to take a stab at the bartender. Now, I wasn't really into any of these girls. I was mostly having fun socializing, but the 2 I was talking to were clearly into me. I wasn't going to number close either of them. Instead, I was going to try and get them to number close me. As we were talking, I get a text from Cee. She's requesting we come to the bar she's at. I tell Hank our presence is requested. Hank's target then asks who is requesting us:

ME: Some friends of ours
HER: Like who?
HANK: Yea, LeDuke! *siding with his target* Just who is it that wants us to join them so badly?

Hank...you idiot lol. He was obviously caught up in the moment with the joking and banter that he didn't realize what he was doing. I tried to think of some guy names to make up, but I was taking too long and it was far to obvious at this point. So, I just say Cee, Kee, and Jon. The 2 girls I were talking immediately shut down. They got extremely jealous, really fast. They both closed off their body language and decided they needed to leave. I guess they won't be number closing me haha.

After that we go to meet up with our girls. It was 30 minute to last call so time was scarce. We get there and Cee is giving me massive IOI's. We all talk and hang out. I tell Hank to get a picture of me and Cee. I tell her to make me look good, so she kisses me on the cheek. After looking at the pic, Hank asks if it's good or does he need to take another one. I tell him to take another one, and this time we kiss a nice long one. I then ask her what she's doing when the bar closes. She tells me she's hungry, so I say good. Lets get something to eat and then you're coming home with me. She agrees.

Meanwhile VFresh is doing pretty good for himself with a 2 set at the bar. I'm not sure what all when down, but apparently, he went home with one of them. Good for him. Hank went home with Kee of course and I brought Cee home with me. We got to the house and popped in a movie and from there...you all know what went down.

The big SLEEP CLOSE lol. Yea, she was wasted and passed out pretty quick. I tried to go for it in the morning, but apparently it's that time of the month and she wasn't feeling it. Oh well. She's coming back over tonight. Maybe I can get her in the shower. So, I got 1 number and made some headway with Cee. All 3 of us went home with a girl on our arms, so I'd say it was a successful night.

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Thanks for including me in the report of the beginning of the night Duke. Saves me a lot of writing for this one because I have one of the most ridiculous stories of my life to write about for the girl I went home with. If anyone wants to check it out it is written in my journal (The Manifesto of Varsity Fresh).

I had a great time though and like your systems. You guys definitely do have a really great dynamic together that is perfect for pick up. You've got a great, easy to read writing style here too. I like It.

I look forward to sarging with you all more in the future!


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Where: Nashville bars/clubs

Who: LeDuke, Hank Panky, VFresh, Rustyskillz, and Nashnewbie

We all met up to eat first to get introductions out of the way and of course talk game. We were at the sports bar Kee and Cee work. Hank being his usual self with Kee, and I was blowing Cee off. Last Friday, she was extremely shady and ended up ditching me when we were headed to my place. I'm not mad about it or anything, I just realize at this point she is a waste of time. So, I'm no longer pursuing her. After getting acquainted we all decided it was time to hit the bars.

First bar we come to is Hank and my usual spot. There was a new bartender working there and she was a cutie. 20 year old short, petite girl, with black hair. She was an 8 (We'll call her HBTeeny). Hank took note of her which I knew was him claiming her as a target. The bar was dead yet again (can't wait for warmer weather). So we just flirted with the staff. Hank was gaming the new girl and I was running my usual flirting with the regular bartender (we'll call her HBBoobs). At one point Hank was talking to Nashnewbie and HBTeeny was talking to me. VFresh felt I had a shot with her but I explained to him I wasn't sure if Hank was still gaming as I was pretty sure he claimed her as a target. So, I played back. Hank then engages HBTeeny and while he's talking, HBBoobs interrupts and is playing the role of an obstacle. I then yell, "HBBoobs!! I need attention!" and she quickly comes to me as I grab her hands and play up a romantic eye gazing. Hank now has HBTeeny's attention again. I love being the obstacle destroyer. After a while HBTeeny was talking to me again and Hank was still talking to Nashnewbie. So I approached Hank and asked if he was still after her or if I was clear to give it a go. He gave me the ok as he was no longer interested and wanted to me to have some success. So, I started flirting with her a bit. I thought about going for the number close, but I remember JSmooth telling me with hired guns, it's better to work them over time. So I decided to seed future encounters in her mind by asking her when she planned to prove how awesome she was (she was boasting about it while talking). She told me when I come back. I told her fair enough and we rolled out.

Since that area was dead we went to a different side of town. The bar we hit was more of a hipster scene. Hank made rounds in the place opening a few sets and saw a couple hotties he knew. I spotted a cutie at the bar with her friend (a grenade). I'm at the bar next to the cutie and I hit her with an opinion opener. I engage the obstacle first and she's clearly shocked and shy. It's obvious she never gets hit on or guys talk to her much. Once she started to seem a little more comfortable I started talking to the cutie. We talked for a while and she seemed a little uncomfortable. Not like she didn't like me or I was weirding her out uncomfortable. It was something else. Finally, she tells me she's been married for 8 years. She seems like a real innocent girl who isn't likely to cheat. I continued some friendly conversation before ejecting. We then rolled to the next bar.

Rustyskillz and Nashnewbie had to leave, so it was just Hank, VFresh, and myself. At the last bar, Kee met up with us with some of her work friends. One of them was about an HB7 with tattoos (well call her HBInk). VFresh goes and opens a 4 set at the bar while Hank is gaming Kee and some HB in pink. I worked on HBInk. After a while it's discovered HBInk has a bf of 1 year. VFresh loses his set after a while so him and I decide to hit up the bar next door. We walk in and a 2 set is at the bar, both 7's. VFresh opens them with opinion opener and I hang back to let him run the set. I engage the obstacle when she starts engaging VFresh. Once I see she's hooked with me, I move around to her other side and isolate her with me and VFresh with his target. It was perfect. VFresh seems to be doing well. After a while VFresh takes his target over to shoot some darts. I think this is where it went south for him. She was already isolated and further isolation probably wasn't necessary. He was more going for a bounce, but she wasn't comfortable leaving her friend. She went with him anyway. My target and I hit it off great. VFresh comes back and we decide to meet back up with Hank. So, I get my targets number. We leave and I shoot her a text.

ME: The guy who did not sleep with the escort. LeDuke
HB: Hey the girl that was wicked awesome at the bar but has a bf of 5 years ....ps would still love to have a new friend in nashville.

So EVERY girl I talked to was in a serious committed relationship. I'll invite the last one out for drinks one night as a friendly gesture and if she comes, I'll see how far I can take it. She gave me her number when she has a bf, so I'm pretty sure that's an IOI. Oh, and just to give my technique on initial texts in detail. Whenever I get a number and I first text her, it's so she has my number and I always refer to something we talked about that she would clearly identify me with. So, it's almost like an inside joke we formed.

I'm not sure of everyone else's interactions as we were somewhat a big group that night. I'm sure Hank will update with his. I'm pretty good at opening sets and getting them to hook. I also feel like I'm great at winging. I feel like I build attraction and comfort but maybe not enough. I can get numbers, but then I can't seem to take them anywhere. It's a little frustrating. I went out Friday night with VFresh. I'll post that update sometime tomorrow.

-LeDuke


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First bar we come to is Hank and my usual spot. There was a new bartender working there and she was a cutie. 20 year old short, petite girl, with black hair. She was an 8 (We'll call her HBTeeny). Hank took note of her which I knew was him claiming her as a target. The bar was dead yet again (can't wait for warmer weather). So we just flirted with the staff. Hank was gaming the new girl and I was running my usual flirting with the regular bartender (we'll call her HBBoobs). At one point Hank was talking to Nashnewbie and HBTeeny was talking to me. VFresh felt I had a shot with her but I explained to him I wasn't sure if Hank was still gaming as I was pretty sure he claimed her as a target. So, I played back. Hank then engages HBTeeny and while he's talking, HBBoobs interrupts and is playing the role of an obstacle. I then yell, "HBBoobs!! I need attention!" and she quickly comes to me as I grab her hands and play up a romantic eye gazing. Hank now has HBTeeny's attention again. I love being the obstacle destroyer. After a while HBTeeny was talking to me again and Hank was still talking to Nashnewbie. So I approached Hank and asked if he was still after her or if I was clear to give it a go. He gave me the ok as he was no longer interested and wanted to me to have some success. So, I started flirting with her a bit. -LeDuke
This was the most important event of the night and a good example to the other fellas we were out with. LeDuke and I NEVER - and I mean NEVER - game each other's targets without the expressed go-ahead. Gentlemen, there is plenty of pussy out there for all of us, but very few good wings. Honor your wing.

I have to say again that I'm lucky to have LeDuke. He is a better wing than I could imagine. He's an absolute obstical killer. My pick up game might be a bit ahead of his, due to experience and age, but his wingmanship is way ahead of mine. I'm always amazed at how seeminly effortlessly he gets isolation for me and my target by engaging obsticals. Good work, my man. I hope I can become as good a wing for you as you are to me.

As LeDuke pointed out, we opened up and hooked some sets but none that really went anywhere.

Now on to Saturday:

Kiss close Sat night with HBCrazyEyes
Saturday, Kee and I (and a whole crew of friends, including HBCrazyEyes) went to the same bar/same event that where I got the shady F-close from an earlier FR. My social proof was even higher this time and I got more IOI's from more gals than I have in a loooong time. Kee had girls telling her how cute I was and asking permission to dance with me :twisted: I wasn't gaming too hard though. I was on good behavior after narrowly avoiding drama last time. I figured I may get a # or 2, but not hook up.

Several hours of dancing and drinking follow. Nashnewbie, VFresh, RustySkillz, Jumper and another guy all showed up too. It was a helluva party!

Let me explain that HBCrazyEyes and I have had some sexual tension between us for quite a while, but one of us has always been involved with someone, and due to all the mutual friends always around, nothing has ever happened....until:

About an hour before the bar closed, Kee told me she was going to hit another spot with some other friends and would be back at closing time.
Kee: Go ahead and get some play baby, but remember you're coming home with me! :D
After she left, I see CrazyEyes waiting at the very busy bar. looking irritated.
Me: What's the matter you?
Her: I'm just waiting for a fucking bartender
Me: Do you need me to get their attention?
Her: Shit, you don't have tits...maybe I need to flash some.
Me: Girl, I got pull in this bitch. Let's make a bet. If I get them to take my order before you, you owe me that flash.
Her: haha, okay. you're on.
*I immediately shout and waive at the barkeep, who comes directly over and takes my order....
Her: Fuck.
Me: haha, yep. You owe me now.
Her: Okay, a bet's a bet...but where. I don't want to show the whole bar my tits.
Me: Come here.
*I take her by the hand and escort her to the men's room where I lock the door behind usShe laughs and pulls her shirt up. I murmered "goddamn" as I approached them, touched them and ended up with one of them in my mouth. After a few moments she pulled back, flushed. I grabbed her around the waiste and pulled her towards me for the kiss, but she pulled back, smiling.
Me: Look, *looking around* this is your only chance to kiss me with no one around and I don't know how long it will be before we get another one like this.
She smiled big and damn near swallowed my lips! We made out for just a few short minutes then rejoined our friends.

Then I notice a girl from an earlier FR that didn't really go anywhere. We dance and flirt. I get a lot of kino and eye contact. When the bar was about to close, I told her to give me her #...right in front of the guy I didn't realize she was there with :shock: She refuses but we laugh it off and I hug her goodbye.

A while later, the bar closes, Kee returnes and we all say our goodbyes to our friends. CrazyEyes hugs me and slyly bites me on the neck as she leaves. I went home with Kee and didn't leave to creep this time.

End of FR

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Update from Friday

Ok, I've been slacking. Our updates are kind of all over the place at the moment, but Friday night, I went out with VFresh. Here are the details of the night.

I met up with VFresh and we went back to his buddy's apartment to pre-game (I didn't drink) and get acquainted. It was going to be Me, VFresh, and his good friend we'll call J. First bar we come to we walk around and scope the place which was probably not ideal. We should have opened a set as soon as we entered. There was a 4 set at a table and I tell VFresh we need to open. So, I tell him and J to walk ahead of me as we pass them I'll open. We start walking and as we pass the table I reach up and grab VFresh's arm as I turn back to the 4 set and throw out an opinion opener. It hooks pretty well. VFresh and J start gaming the 2 sitting on the outer edge of the table and I move in to game the 2 sitting in the booth. Stayed in a set for a decent amount of time, but didn't really go anywhere. Eventually all but 1 girl left the table. No number closes, but it wasn't a bad first set.

Roll out to another bar that I'm familiar with. The bartender is a hottie I had started to game a while back. I walk up and say her name and she turns back to me and smiles.

ME: How's it going?
HB: Pretty good. How are you?
ME: Fine. What's my name?
HB: What?
ME: Tell me my name. Surely you haven't forgotten?
HB: Oh wait. No, I know this. Ummmm, doesn't it start with a T?
ME: *enthusiastically as if she's got it* Oh my god...No! Not even close.
HB: Haha, alright..what is it?
ME: It's LeDuke, and I'll have a water.
HB: Oh, I remember now. You're my water. You don't drink.
ME: Correct. Good job.

We banter a bit back and forth and then I back off and VFresh talks to her a bit. The bar was dead, so once him and J finished their drinks, we were going to leave. I call her over one last time and then grab her hands as I lock eyes and tell her we're leaving. We say goodbye and roll out. I can't say whether this interaction was positive or negative. I'm not really seeing the IOI's.

We walked around a bit. Met another one of VFresh's drunk friends who was disastrous. He would murder any set we entered, so we were determined to ditch him asap. Next bar we enter was pretty packed. We walk through the venue and spot a 2 set sitting down. I assign VFresh the set and he opens with an opinion opener. I let him run it for a few and then engage the obstacle. At first we are across from each other. After a couple minutes, I move around the table to her side, turning her away from VFresh and his target. I stack another opinion opener which hooks her. As we chat, I'm occasionally placing my hand on her lower back as I speak into her hear (the venue was loud). After a while the girls say they have to leave as it's getting close to closing time. I suggest hanging out and my target agrees, so we exchange numbers.

We hit one more bar in a last ditch effort. Last call had already been made and everything was closing. We walk in and VFresh opens a 2 set. Unfortunately, with the bar closing there were just way to many interrupts for it to go anywhere. Everyone is being kicked out of the bar. On the street, VFresh approaches his target one last time and decides to just go direct. She seemed pretty shock and didn't say no. A guy friend of hers walks up and decides to "save" her from him by telling him thats his girl. Oh well...good effort VFresh.

That was the end of the night. I texted the number the other day to try and get her out for a cup of coffee, but she never responded. So, another flake for me. I'm doing something wrong. I'll figure it out eventually.

-LeDuke


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Duke I was thinking about this the other night - False time constraints. We never use them and I bet it would put the girls in a position of trying to make us stay if she liked us.

Maybe work on our DHVing too would be better.

I know what you mean though I am feeling like there is much more success to be had in the sets. With that being said Im going to go sober gaming this week.


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