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We can't. Only administrators are able to do so.

Dude you outright read my private message.

If its ranking system related or otherwise, thats a private message.

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Anyone can see those by clicking on "Votes"

Go ahead and try it

Those were never private to begin with

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Quotes are replies
Black messages are subs



Ok... So now i understand its not private!????????

Why is no one taking action to do anything about the former your-rating-system-sucks-vt54237.html post??. Can you guys at least explain what your idea behind this system is?

I was recently accused with
I live in a community building we use 15 computers which are wired by lan... we all use one connection to the internet, and a DNS which sets our outgoing Ip addresses as whatever you have on your system. The people who gave me reputation points are my friends and they have valid accounts and personal reasons to do just that.

They are new to the forum and they don't know the navigation really well! I'm helping them out, and making sure reputation points go around! You can't blame them, nor me, we are buds and we stick together! I though this forum was all for new people... I wouldn't believe it if anyone suggested otherwise??? You people should be thankful, I'm doing you guys a favor

Are admins allowed to do that, accuse people, prior to ascertaining the facts from the user? What rules do you guys have in regards to accusations? any? how do you guys govern? personal gut?

Chief I'm going to start marketing in this forum soon too, with links to all your members and little ways to get them to come over to my forum.

[link] (note this was linking to a user who was abusing the rules and nothing was being done)

Obviously no one cares if hes doing it so I'm think maybe i should too! what do you recon?
What grade English do you have to have NOT to understand what I was implying? and is packing against users something administrators do all the time?? Is this professional behavior?

Read my thread again, its not a threat... *blnik*

Dude seriously, are we having English problems here? do you live in Seoul or are you in a western country?

I'm nudging you to take action against members who have violated the forum rules and you blame me?? wtf

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Personally I think you guys should undergo a change with your rating system, and better explain to users what your intent with it is. Further, you should post very clearly how admins govern their administration over the forum and their rights to BAN users for things.

Nothing on here seems clear, its like you admins are operating as a unit. If you don't like someone you inform every other admin and ban them. Or you follow your gut and blatantly accuse people without properly talking to them beforehand. I've seen no post on here which addresses any of these issues. Do admins even have to follow a conduct code? if so where is it in writing so I can see it?

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I also think your recruiting admin post is ridicules.

1. Is AT LEAST 18 years old
I've been on forums where 14 year old's have moderated and done a phenomenal job, because the description of maturity was pristine, and they followed rules. Being 18 doesn't qualify for anything. You should all know that growing and being mature are 2 different concepts. Now being professional is a completely different off the world subject, which isn't even mentioned let alone described here.

2. Is good at pickup and has solid field experience
Why? a moderator has to be completely impartial, it dosn't matter if hes good or not good? why does this rule even exist?

3. Actually gets laid
Again another questionable rule, what is a moderator? Its loosing the point now

4. Has leadership experience
Who is he going to lead???? Is this the navy or a forum?

5. Is an active member of the forum
6. Wants to help make this forum a better place for everyone
7. Is mature enough to deal with things in a professional manner
Define professional, define mature, its not defined at all.

8. Is willing to go the extra mile... (interpret this one however you see fit)
No... No... define it!? wtf is this empathy 101?

9. Has time to moderate this forum on a regular basis
10. Doesn't have ego issues, won't power trip, and is able to remove themselves from situations to see things with a clear head.
Ugh... again... its sketchy and muddy... nothing here is pristine

You get bonus points of glory if you:
1. Are familiar with phpBB
2. Know all of the ins and outs of this forum like the back of your hand
3. Are professional (if you make money from the pickup industry somehow)
What relevance does that have to being a moderator?

4. Are really creative
What relevance does that have to being a moderator?

5. Already have experience as a forum moderator (any phpBB or vBulletin forum)

Post your qualifications here if you wish to apply for modship.
Qualifications? like what? the above never asks for any written or formal qualifications??? You mean relevant IT, network or website qualifications? how is being a master puaf qualify you for a administrator position... wth! It's like saying to a guy who flips burgers, sweet mate go build my house! your a great bloke and your renown for burger flipping...

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Now looking at the actual, laughable forum rules!

Mind you they don't read like RULES, more like friendly suggestions, mixed with the authors comment... kinda nice touch! Almost like my collection of Matrix DVDs.

Now first off, forum rules have to be in bold CAPITAL letters, so people see what you want... when i first read your rules it lookt like a bowl of snot! The bottom is a cleaned up version of the garbage you guys call forum rules.

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1. Check the date of the latest post in a thread before posting in it.
(bla bla bla bla bla)
2. Be excellent to each other. Party on, dudes.
(bla bla bla bla bla)
3. Be lawful.
(bla bla bla bla bla)
4. Do a search before posting.
(bla bla bla bla bla)
5. Post in the appropriate section.
(bla bla bla bla bla)
6. One thread, one section.
(bla bla bla bla bla)
7. No advertising without explicit permission from the site owner .
(bla bla bla bla bla)
8. Don't hijack threads. Post a new thread if your post isn't relevant to the discussion.
(bla bla bla bla bla)
9. This is a forum, be open to constructive criticism.
(bla bla bla bla bla)
10. No Pornography.
(bla bla bla bla bla)
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The above reads like shit, and I've actually done you guys a favor by clearing the nonsense text associated with it. Which tries hard to explain wtf is going on, while being confused to shit itself.

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1. REVIVAL OF OLD POSTS IS NOT PERMITTED

2. FLAMING OF MEMBERS IS NOT PERMITTED

3. YOU CANNOT POST COPYRIGHT MATERIAL ON THIS WEBSITE WITHOUT APPROPRIATE QUOTATION OF ORIGINAL SOURCE (include details)

4. SEARCH FOR RELEVANT TOPICS BEFORE POSTING, DO NOT ADDRESS THE SAME ISSUE WITH A NEW TOPIC

5. NO ADVERTISING PERSONAL, PROFESSIONAL OR OTHERWISE IS PERMITTED ANYWHERE ON THIS FORUM

6. HIJACKING OF THREADS CAN RESULT IN POSSIBLE BAN

7. NO PORNOGRAPHY ANYWHERE

8. ADMINS RESERVE THE RIGHT TO BAN MEMBERS AT AN TIME (because your work is personal property, the user ALWAYS reserves the right to ask the admins to delete all his posts! and you have to comply). [/size]
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Now these look ALLOT more like rules, its a step in the right direction for sure. The points are clear, it makes sense, stands out at you... great!

If you wanted to use little writing to describe the issues further, then cool, you could, but don't tell a friggen little red riding hood story! Be VERY clear and direct.

Again, I have to point out that user accounts ARE personal property, they don't belong to the forum. And if you BAN someone, and they ask for their posts to be deleted then you should do so.

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Lastly you have to show

1. The power of admins, their limitations and how users can appeal

2. How you use the BAN system, explain it, whats the procedure, write it out for everyone to see and know.

3. A proper well written out criteria for choosing the administrators of this forum, not that garbage you have up there on the post! This has to include clear cut definitions of everything, from conduct requirements to what you mean by MATURE? for all i know it could mean a large penis!

5. ADMIN RULES, WHAT RULES do you follow?... etiquette fucking etiquette fucking etiquette. What etiquette do admins use? how do they resolve issues? Make this clear cut for all to see!

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Chief and Rye by the looks of it... you guys designed this system... I have to say... very poor job!

Until you two don't do a better job, clear it up and bring it out... i will personally have no confidence in your abilities as forum administrators on PUAF.

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The moderation staff here has worked and will continue to work very hard, keeping each other in check. Our code of conduct is watched and all issues are discussed in a moderator-only section.

We are already talking about the rating system. It has been in place longer than I have been here, which is years.

Thank you for your suggestions.

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Woah, he makes a LOT of valid points.

I think this should be given consideration.

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Another suggestion is to hold promotions on user profiles.

Example; if they reach 1000 posts, they get a little emblem next to their name, a ribbon or star, if they get 20 positive feedback votes they get another little star or something along the lines to promote growth!

By the looks of traffic numbers, this forum is hardcore struggling.

Anyway, its all advice, ideas, etc... the ball is in your side of the field now, use it!

Enjoy

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I still remember you joining the forum, you were close friends with Trip?? if i remember correctly. Your not that ancient!

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Two Frauds on one post Impact and Badolzon. Zip please ban the hell out off these two. Fake reputation points don't want noobs to thinking these guys actually know about what their talking about

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Eh? your the most bias person on this forum mate! I made a few polls to stirr up conversations and debates, all in hopes to get more members active, and what do you do? you make a COUNTER poll saying "ARE YOU SICK OF IMPACTS POLLS"? I wasn't aware that personal attacks like this were permitted on the forum... But after my analysis of the forum rules, just about anything goes. And one last thing buddy, so far all your posts are trolls and not even proper advice to anyone about anything! So next time you make such hypocritical statements, you should look at yourself first.

And look at the vote comment you gave me?
The fuck?????????? I think the ban should be zoomed directly at you mate!

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Hey, idiot, I've given extremely good advice and helped A LOT of people on this forum.

I study psychology/ watch PUA videos and instructionals at LEAST 2-3 hours a day before I go to work.

I've gotten with some of the hottest girls in my school, made out with the single hottest girl in my school, and I'm the most talked about guy IN MY SCHOOL.

Impact is a very successful person, also a PUA COACH, mind you, what do you do? Sit in your basement being biased and talking trash to people who are superior to you?

Please watch who you're talking to since you're useless to this forum; I've never seen you give any useful advice, or any advice, period.

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I can see this descending into farce quickly (I eagerly await the complaints about my post not being specific enough) but there are a lot of points you have made which don't male sense I will address a couple but tbh don't want to sit here for half an hour typing up all.

The age of moderator thing - this forum deals (in places) with sexual content (albeit in stories). Films have certificates on them so why shouldn't a forum? A person aged 18 is more likely to have sexual experience and thus give advice on it (essentially a skill they have the younger doesn't. Yes there are exceptions).

The very fact you understood the rules well enough to re-write them kinda shows they are fine in my opinion. A side point to this is the sensationalist language you appear to believe gives credence to your argument, it is unnecessary and I believe does the opposite.

Next I pose a question, you claim to live with some people on the forum ie the same building and yet be a dating coach but they appear to be in school still. Can you once and for all clear up the situation.

Oh with permission from brad you are allowed to advertise your products, so could be worth talking to him.

That will do for now but yar I agree that the forum rules are left slightly ambiguous but I think that has more to do with the desired SPAM than the laziness of the mods.

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I think you make valid points, and I have to stick with my original argument!
Everyone has different opinions, and I'm not looking to gang up with people to change society here. My main goal is to make this place better! Thats been my main goal since i signed up here. This forum was like the underdog to all the other forums out there, which brought some of the finest young talent from around the world. It was beautiful once, but now its somewhat loosing its buoyancy as forum traffic is greatly reduced. One of the forum members showed me a website that prints out statistics for usage, and i was quite shocked to see this site suffering deeply.

This can be from many things, but the first place you have to point the finger at is administration. I didn't like how I was dealt with by Chief, I wanted to further unravel the forum's guts to see if there was anything in place about administrator rules, or rights for users etc... I ended up discovering that there was nothing, and I began to question the system.

At the very core, you have to understand that I genuinely, just want the best for this forum. And I expressed deep concern with the forum rules, simply because they have so much gaps and arnt clear enough for your average user. With such muddy views and "rules" you can't really decipher whats appropriate conduct and what isn't. How is one supposed to know?? "common knowledge" for one is unknown territory for another. The world works on rules... and so do we!

I also didn't like the word "ban". There was no way of seeing how people were banned. It was mainly a group decision by various moderators, who are by no means above anyone else here... they try to live up to the title.. but i think the point is being missed completely.

What is the difference between a mentor, administrator, or moderator in this forum? does anyone know? Zip even calls herself forum mummy... how can you take someone seriously with that type of title? etc... etc...

If you want good results you have to run things by the book. You have to make sure everything is clear, defined and professional. So members don't randomly get banned and flame the forum to all their friends who signed up etc...

The greatest destroyer is word of mouth. If one person gets banned, thats 1 person who will tell 10 more people, who will inturn tell 10 people after that...

it works if you have rules by which to ban accounts, therefor it will be adequately justified, and the user has little to brag about. Again thats not the case here at all. We don't really have rules here!

As I'm aware, hes not on this forum, he sold it to AFC Adam.
My private life is no concern to anyone on this forum but myself. One might surmise that because I'm a traveling performer, whether it be in the theater or music industry, I'm often placed in positions where I am jammed with allot of other people ... Or it could be that I'm studying two master degrees back to back... and thats how university lodging is... or I could be just giving a reason for the sake of making a point. Either way its truly no ones concern! And dosn't need justification nor explanation. The forum moderator can't jump to any assumptions without asking the user prior.


Yeah but I've been a forum administrator for allot of years! When I was studying in high school i used to get casual jobs managing forums, servers, etc... I see where the forum rules are heading, I just want to bring them to the better, more clear level. That's all! Nothing wrong with having a pristine system in place, later no one can complain if they brake it.


As i understand it we have certain forum members here who are 13 years old! There is no age requirement to post on here, so if your being a administrator, why should you have a age requirement to administer? why would it matter? Again if there was something in place saying 18+ requirement to post in this forum.... then cool, I get your point! However nothing like that exists!

You can't make contradictory rules! You cant allow 13 year olds to post here and then say, nah fuck off, sexual content, you can't be a admin...

That's just outright stupid, why let them in to begin with?

ta

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Impact you seem to know some of what your talking about, and if you dont know there are probably admin members who will look at the post. I understand what you are saying in most parts but i personaly haven't had any problems so far.

However you are right about university internet systems. I use a university connection which, like every other connection on the university, is patched through a main hub. I assume that yours will be the same.

I do have a question tho. Could moderators and admin members be voted for? Like there to be a button in he rep section that would allow you to place a vote for a position. Then a review to be done every few months. Obviously current mods and admin members would have the final say but with a public show of support a worthwhile member couldnt be kept off. That way everyone is happy?

Regards Saint

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As far as I am aware, this is for legal reasons.