Girl I been seeing for 5 months well we have been on and off and used to mess about(kissed back at the start) but just flirt at work now. Well I tried a few months ago to kiss her and got rejected but made no big deal about it. Then we grew closer and would act like fwb and kino was real good so now 2 months later I tried again last night on the train home while she sat opposite.

She was flirting and smiling at me so before I got off the train I held her face with one hand kissed her cheek and learn towards her mouth and she put her face down and then laughed playfully at me. I smiled and walked away I don't mind because she has past relationship issues(not over the ex) and I'm not going to give up. She called me after and we had a short but fun conversation but I told her I had to go eat and then she said "I will ring u 2mora" now I said "ye we will see eacother at work aswell"

I said it because she never phones and just txts me so I didn't expect her to actually do it but I feel she might of thought I rejected her and had given up because she didn't kiss me or maybe I just feel this way because we both kniw I've tried and this has gone on long enough.

She was very friendly during the entire conversation and she said to take care and good night babe in a light voice (unsure?) and I said cya babe(in a voice like ur sweet aw) and that was that. I want her to know I won't give up and I don't want her to think I'm just going to move on but maybe she us more scared now what do you think?

Try to Kiss her again, but this time when she rejects you, kiss her on the neck then another attempt on the actual kiss. Its not really a rejection, but you handled it good either way.

Also it seems like you're putting a lot into this relationship than you're getting back, so maybe want to evaluate that. A jealously plot line may also help her realize she wants you.

Only thing is I can tell she isn't over her ex so I don't know when I should go for this again. Last thing I want is for her to feel that I am putting pressure on her. It's awkward because we only see eachother at work although in a few weeks I will be at a party with her(with work peeps still) but I doubt I will be able to isolate her in that situation.

Hey bro,

I agree with the above post, that you are putting too much emphasis on this one girl. The one saying that always holds true is the more you want something, the harder it is to obtain. The more emphasis you put on kissing this girl, or the more value you places on this relationship, youre more likely to mess it up. Don't give a fuck, go kiss her, if it doesnt work, then move on.

Youre an interesting person with shit to do, if she doesnt want to be a part in that, her loss. It seems like you have the fundamentals down, now its just time to put it into practice. Dont get hung up on this 1 girl

I know what you mean and that "oneitis" is a no no.

What if though you feel there is this chance? Like she saw me give it a shot but it doesn't mean I have to give up. We get on well, seem jealous when people are around one eachother and have attraction.

Or am I missing something? is there no way back after failed kiss close? I think she was flattered and was worried I was embarrased. I wasn't, I just hope that maybe when she is isolated properly, things will come together. She said she wanted to speak to me today so I migh give it a go with a flirty txt a bit later, but I don't want to come across too interested.

The circumstances of your relationship with this girl are too strange to have a great shot at anything. The fact that you've known each other for so long without kissing doesn't bode well.

That said, you probably still have a chance. She's still comfortable investing time into you and had no LJBF speech.

My advice is to give her some space, keep gaming her a little but try to find other girls to be around. A little jealousy might do her good and your best game is always going to come from a state of abundance.

Well m8 we kissed at the very start of our "relationship" and I could tell from the way she kissed that she was feeling guilty about it because of her ex(We got together soon after their breakup) but she still did it again on my birthday which was really sweet even though I was so drunk to remember lol.

I have this tall chick at work who keeps greeting me with hugs and kisses and she just started working. It's helping with jealousy but at the same time I can see this girl is smart and would like to try and get between us so because of that I'm trying to stay away from her. The jealousy seemed to work in my girl though but I would rather the girl to be hot than someone below the chick I'm on.

I just want my girl to know that 1) I tried to kiss her but I'm not forcing her to be with me 2) I'm still ok with taking it slow.

From reading all of this on here it seems that a kiss close attempt after 2 months of the last one isn't that bad but at the same time in her girl brain she is still heartbroken with her ex and might just feel she needs to "put me out of my misery" which would be a mistake on her part as we click so well.

Upon further analysis I only have one thing to say (and I say this with as much respect as possible to you): move on. While you don't think you have oneitis, the detail and depth in which you discuss this girl telegraphs (even to me just reading this) that you are putting to much weight on this one girl. Have you heard the saying "Don't put your eggs all in one basket"? Well I have a modified version of that which is "Dont put your eggs in one basket, and if one basket isnt working (shitty fucking basket), move them into another." In other words, move on or at least don't stay rooted with this one girl. If you still want to game her, great bro, keep at it. But make sure you have other girls too that you are actively interested in. This will make everything go better.

Hope this helps bro and good luck

When I saw her at work I was surprised as she went cold on me and was looking at me like I had done something. I showed her days previous that I wasn't bothered by the rejection but she made a big thing about it.

Instead of ignoring it I didn't know how to talk to her and felt like an AFC when I kept flirting with her. She trys to imply we are just friends but never says it out loud. I know she is sweet and a good person but I'm starting to get annoyed with my actual game more than anything. I can't sit next to her without thinking "kino!!" and she probably can tell I'm restless. If you don't kino though, you're giving up right?

Well I agree with what others have said... the 5 month thing seems a bit strange. almost as if she is keeping you on a backburner hanging around until she makes a decision if she's over her ex. That's a feeling I get, but then that's the optimistic feeling which gives hope... but on the flip side, you need to have the self respect to maybe freeze out from her and game other girls for a while and not be hanging around for her (I've been there on relationship breaks and girls can really screw with you that way). If she really feels she want's you then she will may come running when she feels you are moving on.

But then really if you don't have oneitis then this shouldn't be a problem

If you find it hard then maybe you have to reconsider the above sentence.

Yeah freeze her out as much as possible. You work with her, so she may say things like "What's wrong?" "Why aren't you talking to me?" or whatever. Shake it off. Say you just want to get your work over with. Those are IOIs but they mean that she misses the attention, not that she's ready to take you seriously.

Did you think I'm dumped or not?

Last few days at work she really seems tired of my affection and when I touched her back towards the station she told me to stop. I did and we spoke about it and she said colleagues will think something is going on and she is starting to get pissed off when people ask her what is going on and she tells people the same thing "nothing, im seeing someone!"

I walked with her and didn't really respond but said fuck em it's our business and she shrugged and looked a bit guilty for the tone she spoke to me in and then I touched her lower back(forgetting) and she said "don't I told you didn't I...." in a softish tone. I really wanted to not get upset but I felt so hurt since we always mess about and she is letting OTHER people destroy our chemistry.

She says she doesn't mind when guys ask but when women do it is...different. The mood was changed but we tried to change the subject and she smiled but also said "look at these good looking people, those cops are really nice" as a shit test and I laughed it off and got to the station told her "alright cya" and we half hugged and she was like cya later. I was hurt but hiding it and she had this look in her eyes weird, kinda arrogant.

ok first things first have you checked out the dicarlo escalation ladder if not google search it and itl be the first thing that pops up and its a pdf, its really great and helps with kino escalation bulding up to a kiss and even sex, if you havnt checked it out its definatly worth taking a look into, as far as her pushing away on the kissing it could be a slight number of things, such as you didnt kino escalate properly, maybe your in the freind zone and shes just being polite, or she could just be playing hard to get, ect..., it also depends on if shes emotionally and sexually comfortable with you, if you maybe wanna learn more into that i can suggest tons of free content that will help out, if your intreseted let me know and i can hook you up

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Too much drama bro. She's not worth it.

She messaged me the next day and told me she was having problems at home. We had a conversation when she was down/quiet etc and she told me how she was severly depressed and wanted to die....

I gave her some advice, let her know things can change. I spoke with her the next day and she seemed a bit awkward but was friendly enough but didn't seem like she wanted to meet even though she mentioned it to me the week before.