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Sooz! yes or no?
Go for it!!  94%  [ 16 ]
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Thanks for spending your time to read my post!

Alright so here is the deal, at the moment I'm at a stage In my game... and I don't really know if game is the appropriate word..where I look at a girl she smiles and she’s mine! Or id lean back and shed come with her friend to talk to me or get my attention.. or shed be with her best guy friends and talk to them about me, even make sounds like ... ..... "oohaw! whats that?.. where did he come from ;)" type of thing! I still use some structure, I like to.. I had a wonderful discussion with a friend of mine on here called Rye Lee regarding natural game and structured game. I respect his approach to natural game and I think its great that allot of people are heading into that category, however in my opinion, some structure and some preset things for shits and giggles never hurt anyone! But anyway that’s not what I'm here to discuss.

There is this ..... girl, I rarely see her, but when I do, regardless of my confidence, she makes the ground around me shake.. Its like being a confident guy in a middle of a earth quake!.. Her name is Sooz.. She’s this.. singer girl, I've heard her sing a few times, she’s not bad, but she’s not a phenomenal sensation that will colonise record labels anytime soon.. or later haha! ... no but she’s great, she has a best friend called Steff, who is this wonderful blond girl with really deep founded morals! She strikes me as a very family type girl with religious upbringings and strict beliefs! Anyway it reminds me of me actually.. as I always roll with my best friend when I'm out.. he’s a cool pua who just got in the game! great guy, artist whatever..

So as the story goes, I recently had zero hours of sleep, I had spend the weekend with a really great friend of mine a HB 7.5 called Ashley.. she was down in Sydney selling stuff.. something along the lines! I rocked up and we went shopping.. some sarging but mainly just catch-up! Saw some guy pay for a chicks meal and she ran like hell! LOL!... anyway on Monday I went into the studio, dead tired, but being tired and having no sleep at all, I mean at all, cancels out a certain part of your brain, In my case, makes me insanely non caring and super confident.. So I was doing some recording, and there she was coming out of the bathroom....... just magnificent.. that’s the word to describe her.. now she’s a HB 8.5, she’s not a 10, I've dated models and high end singers, even women who have travelled who were stunning, I mean mind blowing, so much that when i bring them home, mum wants me to marry some of them haha.. she totally loves these girls.. SO i mean Sooz is beautiful but not the queen of the world.. she dresses really well, I can see that she spends time in front of the mirror every morning, partly because she knows that people will check her out.. and she wants to be the savviest dressed chick there... She’s a very deep thinking person, I know because I can read people instantly, she has allot going on in her mind, and allot of men competing to get her attention! I don't really like that to be honest.. I hate when girls like you but like other men too, its like dude.. I'm like top shit these guys are work at Kmart material.. wtf is going on..

So she walks out of the bathroom, I glance her dress which was this, island like thing.. it reminded me of a fruit juice.. beautiful, and I open the door for her, without turning my body, almost like I instinctually know she’s there..

Sooz: Thank you :)
Impact: your very welcome!

I look back slightly and my first words were, great hair cut! then my mind calibration hit me.. "puta!!! don’t say that to her!!! you loko!!!!!! * And I immediately say to fix it, you should give me a haircut, I could so use one right now ;)!! *mind you my head was shaved so it came off as great little joke... * so she likes it and moves her hand over my head ! I quickly tell her I'm money or something along the lines, or something like easy gurl there is only one of me, and there is allot of women in the cue! She smiles it off

Then I ask her if she got my MySpace msg, as I msgd her about some band thing.. she told me she did and that she rarely uses it, so I'm like yeh yeh, your such a snob Soozy, I know your type.. ! she told me to shut up in a playful way! IM like cool, so i lean back against the wall we do some small chat and I tell her about my little project, really confidently looking her in her eyes, sub communicating stuff.. scratching her tummy and moving around her gently.. just some really smooth things..

she looks at me and she was slightly anxious or nervous, she was playing with her ring and her hands, she didn’t look confident where as I did.. I don't know what that means?.. She tells me she’s flattered that I chose her, and she wants me to give her a demo of the song, and we can take it from there.. work on it so on :).. I smiled, and i gave her a hug.. she fitted really noicley in my arms.. she hugged back, told her I had to jet had a meeting or whatever, and ill talk to her soon, she’s like "yeah for sure let me know!"!

Its a opportunity to start something with this girl.. She’s got amazing presence, a while ago I was running a 2 set with 2 twin girls and she blew them away in a second and made me notice her... Just astonishing! She’s a social queen, very aware and very able, she only accepts the very best, but seems to taste everything. Her eyes..argh.. I feel like i can talk to her just by looking in her eyes..

ohh man.. I'm talking like such a little bitch here haha! *sigh*

What you guys think? is this worthy of perusing and turning into something? I don't see myself just hooking up with her.. I don't want that, Nor do I think I deserve just that.. I’m quality man, and I can have any woman.. I won’t accept second class SPAM In absolutely any way. I actually like her.. I rarely genuinely like and choose a girl for a relationship like that.. its not something I do everyday! I’m very reluctant to commit to a girl let alone spend more then a month with her.. most girls get so clingy it makes me run like hell! But some I choose to stay! and they are today my very good friends!

Argh.. women! There should be a law against them.. no two!

I know I can teach her sooooo much, where do I begin?.. and she can take me to the next level as a man! Allow me to be the very best of myself all the time, and learn something in the process.

should give her a chance to figure me out?!
I think she recently broke up with her boy.. I don't know her that well, but this song writing thing.................

She’s old school to me. When I first met her I ran game but she knows all the routines, guys have all used them before.. negs bounce off her like anything.. not to mention she has the bitch shield mass equivalent to china and Mongolia and France.. combined! I had to evolve and become someone who is pure genuine value, in order to counter all of that!

I can't believe I'm actually posting this!!! What has she done to me!!!!!?!

Anyway Let me know what you think!

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Above is a rough pic of her and the ex. When I first noticed her she had a man, I was not going to rip his girl away from him, that’s not gentleman like. Yeah yeah, I sometimes have morals! But its over between them now! So that part is cool!
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Why not man! Worst case you get a chance improving your relationship skills...


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Why not man! Worst case you get a chance improving your relationship skills...
Good comment!! I never thought about it like that.
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The only reason I see you not forming a relationship with her is that your scared for some reason. What type of relationship would it be--an exclusive LTR?
I don't think its 'scared' or 'fear'. Truthfully be told, I originally didn't like this girl, i thought she was hot but it was not like this. I think because I ran game during my first months of being in the game, and the fact that I got sidelined and made so many errors, is coming back to haunt me a little. Its cool tho I can deal with all that very well, No problems on that end. I'm not that person anymore, so if any residual bullshit comes up I have the contingency and wiring in my head to cruise right past the obstacles.

Your picking up on the fact that I value her, because she’s a girl that everyone wants! that’s causing my body to automatically feel more and be more emotional! Again that’s energy I can control, so no sweat!

I think the thing which is trying to push against me most is the fact that she will be allot of work! if i want a LTR with someone who is hit on every constant second, I will have to be at my very best all the time! she’s someone who goes out to social occasions allot, so I will be accompanying her, and in all areas I have to tickt off the boxes! and present a congruent stable, content happy, sociable man! Its a test, and the situations are a test! I remember a while ago I met a French girl, and she didn't let me advance in any way on her, until I met her friends and they gave me the green light and she saw me interact with people and win them over!

LTR would be something yeah! Ill keep you all posted! I should be seeing her soon, next time Id like to present a very confident, playful, fun lively and refreshing man without trying offcourse. Ill get myself in the Zone! maybe do some caveman on her If i can and shake some emotions out ;)! We will see.. its interesting!

One thing my body was not giving me q’s on was when she was playing with her ring while talking to me.. And I know I’m over analysing it here, but hey I’m putting forward the whole process in my mind, why pretend bullshit when I can speak the truth and have people learn from it.

I don’t know how to interpret that, my body says, she likes you and your aura was so powerful that you were the alpha male and she became beta ! she likes you and genuinely is interested, so she’s willing to go that distance...or she’s already there, she just wants to feel it and go by the process or/and she is already feeling it and is anxious about it.

I asked my mate when he was over earlier today..he’s a natural PUA, overly confident amog, hes on this forum called Bluered!! cool dude.. and in his experience also its perfectly normal and "human" for a chick to feel this way. He was surprised I was even asking! I got the, why are you asking stupid questions I will amog you now SPAM! haha..

Then again I talked to a Aurlie, and she said that It was not a good sign, she was feeling a bad anxiety, I was doing something wrong.. but she still went forward and put herself in the situation where me and her can get together for the excuse of a song, because she wants to like me. Her view was that women will put themselves in a situation even if they don’t initially feel it because they know the guy is worth it and high status.

Made me think about Brad Pitt, if the girl doesn’t like him right away she will still go the distance until she does! If any women here could give insight on that point, then it would be superbly valuable.

Who is right? My body or my booty call! Time will tell!

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Yeah for sure! I'll keep you all up to date! ;)!

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she looks alright! there is better women, the pics arnt too clear tho! but if you really feel like that man, go for it!


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I asked my mate when he was over earlier today..he’s a natural PUA, overly confident amog, hes on this forum called Bluered!! cool dude.. and in his experience also its perfectly normal and "human" for a chick to feel this way. He was surprised I was even asking! I got the, why are you asking stupid questions I will amog you now SPAM! haha..
saw her at the Galic club ages ago when you were playing bass for that mandy chick! dude, sooz is 90% makeup from what i remember! can't believe your dating miss powder 2008!

But whatever man you like her so yeah cool, im for it!


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Man, i certainly feel for you with the whole over thinking situation. Im going through the exact thing with the girl im seeing at the moment.

However, i have come to realise two VERY important things.

1. The questions i am asking such as 'is this worth it?', 'do i want to be in a relationship?' etc, are only the resultant questions from self doubts. Fact is, i wont know if its worth it until i'm in it. There is NOTHING to loose here, remember when you first had AA and you were scared to even talk to a girl because you were filled with so much doubt about yourself and the outcome of your gamble on the set? This is the exact same thing, but RA. Relationship Anxiety. To summarise, question your questions. As Freud said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Simple.

2. Ross Jeffries said something which has stuck with me big time.

'You will never get anywhere by being uncertain with yourself'.

Having intention is what will stop you game from burning out, stay true to the frames you have set and dont allow your old nerdy chode self to win.

Sorry if any of this sounds like a negative douchebaggy thing to say but its only a case of self doubt, ignore it, switch back to awesome PUA guy frame, and go win the girl of your dreams!

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Man, i certainly feel for you with the whole over thinking situation. Im going through the exact thing with the girl im seeing at the moment.

However, i have come to realise two VERY important things.

1. The questions i am asking such as 'is this worth it?', 'do i want to be in a relationship?' etc, are only the resultant questions from self doubts. Fact is, i wont know if its worth it until i'm in it. There is NOTHING to loose here, remember when you first had AA and you were scared to even talk to a girl because you were filled with so much doubt about yourself and the outcome of your gamble on the set? This is the exact same thing, but RA. Relationship Anxiety. To summarise, question your questions. As Freud said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Simple.

2. Ross Jeffries said something which has stuck with me big time.

'You will never get anywhere by being uncertain with yourself'.

Having intention is what will stop you game from burning out, stay true to the frames you have set and dont allow your old nerdy chode self to win.

Sorry if any of this sounds like a negative douchebaggy thing to say but its only a case of self doubt, ignore it, switch back to awesome PUA guy frame, and go win the girl of your dreams!

I wish you good luck!
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Um.. the only thing I have a problem with is loosing my freedom! and I feel weird sticking to one girl.. I pull at least 3 girls a week without trying. I'm anxious that if I hook up with a chick for a relationship I'll loose my edge! That’s really all this is about! Either way thanks for the input!

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Dude,

just go for it. What do you mean 'scared of losing my edge'?
If you really like her, then go for it. U gotta ask urself what ur in the
game for anyway. I for one am not trying to skill myself to become
the best PUA there is. Like I read in another post, pick-up means getting the girl. A relationship can teach you much much more about
being a man, and a person in general. Isn't it tiring having, as you said,
3 chicks a week, but never having anything deeper?
I'm all for pick up and having adventures, specially in our youth.
But a real relationship, and seeing where this goes is a new experience, thats even cooler, and will teach u more about urself too.

Well, hope this helps u out a bit
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Thanks for everyone’s input and Its heartfelt. Its rare that you meet a girl that you truly like, allot of women have allot of potential but to really go to that next phase for me anyway is a big big call! Unfortunately this time I found myself crossing lines I usually would not dare to cross, and let myself feel vulnerable in a situation where I shouldn’t be! I thought about it for a while, I even talked to a girl I met Amy on a date and she gave solid advice!

At one point this one itis was so influential that the dates that I did have with women ended up being therapy sessions and advice meetings, for what Ill do with this Sooz girl. Many of them could not really believe that im talking to them about other women, but they were very helpful and supportive. They didn’t understand how someone like me can get hung up over some random girl that I don’t really even know. Amy would get angry and try to kiss me or get my attention away from her.. mind you Amy is HOT!! so she did, she stole my attention at least for the day or a week, Then the same emotional drama, It screwed with my game to say the least... during this saga, Id go up to a random sets as alawys to meet people, and Id run things and they would work, but deep down it was so incongruent and so fake and ended up taking piece of me away. My body wasn’t agreeing with anything I was doing... and was not giving me any validation but the minor validation id get from simply looking at this girl. Did I loose my mind? How can a woman end up having such a ridicules Impact on me, what irony...

My end conclusion was to let her go. I met this Sooz girl ages ago, and she liked me for a long time, especially when I was first getting into the game, but I made mistakes then which cost me, cost my credibility as a man, things which I now have to spend time to repair. Along time ago I decided that this was not how I will live my life, repairing things with women, running damage control, wasting my time obsessed over someone.

This all started when my game first failed on her and at the time over a year ago, I did not know any other way to communicate, I kept pushing and the set kept burning. Then I had another opportunity as a girl I used to sleep with may have told her how I feel, she was trying to initiate me again I didn’t know what I was doing.. I felt so validated by the other women I was seeing at the time that I thought of Sooz as nothing too special, just some chick I had some crush on. Long story short, I burned it. finally now I know what to do, and every time I start something, she doesn’t respond. She’s just very polite and does everything I tell her, she won’t go into a phase with me.. she will just take my negs, and sit there.. as if she’s in a trance.. I look in her eyes, I try to figure out where she’s at with me, I try to look deep, I move my hands over her waist, I give her the sexxy, the confident, the cool, I kino escalate, I try to stir something up.. I was sure.. she had to feel something for me...and I sub communicated to tell her how I feel.. to generate something in her and see how she feels, I held the moment, as I'm sitting right next to her, acting all confident, and cool..... one, two, three, four, five seconds pass...as we look in eachothers eyes, both of us confident glazing at one another.. she has green eyes.. another few seconds pass and she plays with her hair... but I know....... that there is nothing of actual substance there, my body tells me everything, it never lies. I've lost this set!

I refuse to do damage control. I'm worth allot more as a man then to do recovery bullshit, I AM value. I know that a woman equally as good or better looking will be on a clean sheet with me, and none of my past will be there to interfere... I actually realise this in the moment.. it hurts.. I also realise that any guy can go up to this girl and run the most basic of game and he would have higher buying temperature then me.. a sharp pain hits me...and my eyes go all over the place, they slowley begin to water... and I push her chair away with her on it playfully.. I tell her Ill be back in a sec hon.. In a very confident and content deep voice... I was giving her a hand with some work.. for uni! and I walk out of the room.

My choice was made. I rarely ever loose, my mentality is to always win, my past has thought me I can win any girl, any time, just give me 15 min and shes mine, within a hour I can get this far, within a day even further within two days she’s in love. But in this case.. nope.. nothing to be had.

"if you don't get the girl the first time, and if you choose not to seeze her when you have the moment. Then you will ultimately loose that moment and her along with it".

That’s a rule with any girl anywhere.

Again thanks allot for everyone’s read! good to know I have support behind my back! Subsequently the 3 9’s that I was dating, Amy, Rochelle, Tanja became friends because I told them about this, and they saw in my eyes how much she means to me and how little chance they had. And even if I want to persue something, Its now tainted. Ill be back in the game after I get my head cleaned out. Probably a good week or two brake!

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I highly suggest you read The Attraction Code by Vin DiCarlo. He has great insight on the mind itself. To quote DiCarlo: "What is truly limiting your expression is actually caused by your own mind and self doubt, but is usually perceived as an outside force." Good luck!


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I highly suggest you read The Attraction Code by Vin DiCarlo. He has great insight on the mind itself. To quote DiCarlo: "What is truly limiting your expression is actually caused by your own mind and self doubt, but is usually perceived as an outside force." Good luck!
Nah, to the above! Bad advice for the wrong person. Yo Pacman get your head together and take time off! no one is perfect we are all human, you know that braz! Like your mate Ashley said, if anyone can pull off anything its you! Sometimes its better to just walk the walk............ know what Im saying?... you feel me? aaiight!

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Nah, to the above! Bad advice for the wrong person. Yo Pacman get your head together and take time off! no one is perfect we are all human, you know that braz! Like your mate Ashley said, if anyone can pull off anything its you! Sometimes its better to just walk the walk............ know what Im saying?... you feel me? aaiight!

I don’t know what to do for the first time in my life! I keep running into her, I don’t know man.. she’s difficult, she’s my Katya. Drove Mystery completely Insane, so id like to leave with some sanity before this is over. Yesturday I saw her again, and virtually every time I miraculously run into her, I miraculously suck with anything I do.. I ran DHV off the shoulder, story told, negged, threw a pen at her twice, and got angry at her! she plays my game on all fronts! what a headache! On the plus side i picked up a hot girl in a 4 set yesterday, she couldnt stop looking at me so i went up to her! the guy was trying to out amog and steal the attention.. what a looser! short story I made her day, and I've got someone else interested too, a 7.5! I'll hit some pictures up, I wanna take snaps on all my FR's.. If im still in one piece after this haha!



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I dont have much time so im going to keep it short.

Im still learning so take my perspective with a grain of salt. Stop the lies and show her your true self! To women with advanced social intelligence, all your learned, conditioned pickup skills may just not work.she s prolly seen them all and most of the “new” emerging materials are in my opinion superimposed of existing knowledge, so it s not hard to figure out where they come from either.

You r trying too hard to be the PUA, the high value I could get any girl I wanted guy and I d venture to say she saw through that. She might be attracted to you, but it s the lack of genuineness that put her off, not how you screwed up when u were AFC or whatever limiting belief you keep telling yourself.

IMHO, she didn’t choose to go out with you to bc ur brad pitt (whatever his name is) but bc she is waiting for you to confess, to tell her that she might just be the woman of your life. Heck, the way u r describing her, she could get any brad pitt in the world if she wanted. Ironically, she might just be the mirror image of yourself, which may partially explain the attraction. Who knows.

I dunno whether im wasting my breath here since it s a 1 month ago thread, but just be genuine, be old fashion, take her out for dinner, tell her how you feel, be a AFC.

All the best and good luck mate.


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Thanks but none of that helps now, I cut her off. I tried everything, I wasn’t born yesterday, I did many approaches and damage control, anything you can think of, braking rapport, whatever I’ve done it all.. In certain situations shed like me then her friend would pull her right away, id attempt to befriend the friend but shed have nothing to do with it! I’ve done it all, to steal her away pick her up carry her away even ;).. talk to her, tease her.. hate her, everything.. but its too much work for just one girl.. Once a she has it in her head that she’s not into it, then there’s not much you can do. Worse if her friend thinks that too, then its over! Too much bullshit from the past came up in this, as I’ve known this girl for a while, and it required too much mending and work. I’m not a first year kid learning how to meet women, mind you I do quite well, having said that we are all normal.. and sometimes the things we think are right are wrong and vice versa. Sometimes you know your making a mistake but you want to make it anyway, in hopes that she will react differently to certain things.. We all hurt, fall, sometimes more for some people then others, people fall for us in this process and generally they are better looking and mannered.. Sometimes you just have to live life open your eyes to the surroundings and keep going. We all know how this feels like, we’ve all had it and lost it, no matter how good or bad we were..
It’s life!

Anyway no more posts on this thanks, I don't keep in contact with her anymore and I’m already seeing other people.

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