I have been with this girl for about 2 months. Everything was really good in start, I could see how she smiled every time I was around and she wanted to see me all the time. I could get her to laugh by just looking at her and doing some lame sound, and we had sex everyday.

So I did not reflect much about us seeing each-other 2-3 times a week. With sleep overs and hanging whole weekends and then keeping contact over phone rest of the time. About 10/8 we seen each other on my initiative.


I meet her now this week and she where no longer smiling just by my presence. My lame jokes did not work, had to make good jokes to even get her attention. She where looking at her phone/texting more then me at some points. Our conversations did not flow like they use to, she had her period so we did not have any sex.

We hung out 2 days made some food and chilled then i took her on a trip with my boat, we where bathing/fishing and having a picnic. When we where out i feelt she got back in to the state where she just smiled by being with me and my lame jokes where working again. She appeared very happy.

When we where back home, she where back in the sad mode. I asked if everything was good and she say it's good. I asked if she think we doing fine and told her to tell me if there is something that trouble her cus i can't read minds. She said that she is bad at talking about her feelings and so on but she would tell me if there was something.

In an other discussion she have mentioned that she think we move abit to fast but said it was no problem about it at the time. I am now afraid I have been to needy/clingy without even knowing about it. I have gone cold turkey since our last meeting, to see if she initiate something but so far not a single text/call in 3 days.

Any advice/thoughts?

Here's something we don't talk about much in the community. Crushes last for 2-4 months and if she wants you around longer than that...it's probably more than a simple infatuation/crush scenario. When she stops laughing at your jokes, smiling when she sees you, and you have to work harder to keep her attention then she's probably about ready to check out.

I personally believe that when women know that they have you early on...they don't feel the need to invest as much into you. If you start making yourself scarce and her knowing you are doing interesting things...that may jolt her into investing but I wouldn't count on it at this phase if she truly is ready to start moving on.

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So you think I should keep radio silence and hope she responds?

Not so much as being silent. Just be busy and give her a lower priority. Do cool shit and instead of taking her with you...tell her about it.

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Start acting indifferent. Text her once every 3 days. And when she wants sex, be like, I gotta go now, later.

Jack gave you some good points but you're failing when it comes to emotional understanding.

"Tell me what's wrong I can't read minds" is like saying "Don't be shy" to the shy dude in the corner. Yea, 100% of the time it works never.

Make it known that you can clearly see something's bothering her. Sit her down and encourage her to open up. She even told you herself she's bad at talking about her feelings. That was you que to help her into expressing them.

If you had done so, you'd have had her answer and you could continue living life, as opposed to being in statis for 3 days (and counting) of no contact and other mind exhausting shit.

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"Moving too fast" = feels vulnerable too quickly/exposed

its not about you going quiet, just backing up a bit giving her some breathing space and adjusting the tempo of the relationship.


All going cold turkey will do is build insecurity on the other end of the spectrum

OP other than this girl, what do you have going for yourself ? I find that women (even though they complain) actually like when you're a man with a purpose or at least they know they aren't your priority in your (even though some will say they want to be). I find myself being consumed in my hobbies that I forget that I have girls vying for my attention next thing you know, double texts are ringing in my phone.


As for emotionally connecting. RC explained it to you. If you know something is wrong don't give up at the first sign of resistance. Keep digging for the gold and you will get your answer.

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The OP had good intimacy at every day. Women normally trade sex to get resources out of men. A little gold digging is part of this idyllic setting, " i took her on a trip with my boat..." (unless this is a row boat). That the woman was that intimate with the OP means that she was willing to put the sole kind of investment into him that she had (the OP did not mention much of any other kind of talent she shared). With that in mind, women are opportunists. She is withdrawing most likely because she is looking for resources to extract elsewhere.

In a mature world, we would say have a heart to heart talk with her to share with her how you feel without the "you" statements, e.g. "There seems to be a growing distance between us. What is happening?" But, in reality, this is the part of the program where a woman says, "we need some time apart; so, I can sort things out"= I've been seeing another guy with more money.

It is apparent that the OP wants to keep the woman (we must never say "wants to keep the relationship" because no one, much less a man of conviction and hardship, should pursue abstractions or things). The OP should at some point before the girl disappears, let her know his feelings for her so she knows what she is leaving behind. There are consequences to everything. She gets to look in the mirror in the future, when she can no longer trade on her looks and her life sucks, at the thoughtful young man she got rid of to try get ahead. The OP should not take the emotional responsibility away from the girl for making this choice; she will have to break it off with him and live with the 15 seconds of guilt; not vice versa.

In the meantime, the OP should stop investing emotional energy in her, go about building his life (never let some woman take you off your game), and meet other women, because the girl in this story has been keeping beta orbiters and plan b's in the dug out all along.

Big picture- if you are a man of resources, every woman you will likely meet is a gold digger, and you like gold diggers. Try not to fall in love in this dystopia. Even women with careers fall into this category because careerist women work to be able to demand a man with a higher income. Be all you can be, MGTOW.

Keep your money in your wallet, and your Trojans in your pocket.

That's a low view of women. Women like sex just as much as men do. It's the idiots that lead with resources that have to trade them for sex.

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You take the cake when it comes to shitty advice.

Seriously you're like a Pez dispenser where each 'candy' piece is a tightly packed pile of dung that spews forth from your mouth (or neck in the case of a Pez). Thing is a Pez has more value, and at least the candies are palatable unlike the crap you freely dispense.

People like you should be banned simply because some guys are vulnerable and suggestible enough to follow any advice.

Said the mangina. You would only conclude that if you did not read the sociology of sex roles, and the website where you are. See Friedan, Betty, the "Feminine Mystique," where she critiques contemporary women's commercialization of sex. See also, Farrel, Warren, "Why men are the way they are."

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Sex as commodity sold by women is the very gender role that PUA has designed itself to cut through to get to honest sexual exchange between the genders: Blair, Elaine, "I’ll Have What She’s Having ‘What Do Women Want?’ by Daniel Bergner," book review, New York Times (JUNE 13, 2013).

There is not alternative to formal study.

Is there a rational thought in your post? Pez candy? A heart to heart talk is clearly bad advice. Apparently, you are not familiar with gender roles and the economics of sex.

Apparenlty you aren't familiar with women period, human connection, and the simple notion of common sense.

You're speaking like somebody who took Evolutionary Psych 100, you don't quite understand human behavior and its precepts. If you want I'd be more than happy to school you on the subject, seeing as I am well versed in it.

Sense is meaningless. If this alleged sense were common, everyone would have it. A human connection is what the PUA community seeks to create in an environment of crass rituals. See my citations above. The OP talking directly to the woman is perfect advice. Recognizing that gold digging and materialism exist is simply to be aware of one's present time. You have not indicated one complete thought or offered any authority for your conclusions. The PUA community stresses study. Dedicate time to it.