with all respect, you turned yourself helpless loser. It wont worth here to write something. Hope you can one day get over that bitch.

Till then bro from the heart get insured for your ass.

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whysoskinny...

I've been off this thread for a couple weeks, but I'm back to put in another two cents.

The entire perspective of this forum has been on you cutting off this girl from your life, ending this seemingly endless cycle of wrong and getting yourself far, far away from her.

I still stand in this perspective, obviously, coming from the outside perspective; however, I can see that you have repeatedly tried to hang on, and for a reason. I know love is a powerful thing—the connections it builds are very strong. It'll take so much more than simply us saying "break it off" for you to demerit the time you have spent with her, and to cut off the hope that things will get better.

Here's what I think: You need time.

I agree with several of the people here who say that there are certain problems that only you yourself can fix. She's been ignoring you. She apparently wants her space. She is saying that she "did nothing wrong" when, in your head, she obviously did.

You have to build a life that doesn't emphasize around her.

I can't stress that more. Even if you did lean into the advice to break up with her, or really, truly end things—you wouldn't be able to do so, at least, full-heartedly. I've said this before, but you HAVE to build up a support group. Reciprocate her actions and take some space and time for yourself. I know it feels horrible when you feel constantly sick and horrible and sad, but you have to realize that this space, right now, is what you need.

You want her respect? She won't be handing it to you where you are right now. You have to work on yourself until you can look in the mirror and say, "I'm better than this. I deserve to be happy and I will be happy."

When she notices that you're being successful by yourself and don't give a flying fuck about her successes - oh, here's the fucking kicker - it will feel good as fuck when she starts trying to interact with you more. When you begin to feel better about yourself, don't even bother giving her the time of day: let her know you are better than the way she treats you.

Bottom line: she runs to you, not the other way around.

Start by refusing to look at your phone. Temporarily block her from your contacts and delete snapchat from your phone, or whatever method it takes to sever your connection to her social group—her group doesn't matter.

You may believe that the feeling of jealously and curiosity inside of you of, "Oh no, what could she be doing?" and "Is she with another guy?" will intensify and, truth be told, they will.

You will probably feel like doing that is tortuous, but in all honesty it will be worth it. Realize that a lot of your trouble right now is with the anxiety of wondering what she is doing, and what your next move will be to gain back control. Cut off all sources of worry and know that the only thing you can control right now is yourself.

There's no point in worrying on what she's doing; you will only succeed in demoralizing yourself and sending yourself back into a saddening spiral. Find those other people in your life right now and don't give a fuck about hers.

Do what I said and cut off the sources of worry right now. Seriously. Stop reading right now and block her. Delete snapchat. Email. Whatever. Just. Get. Some. Distance.

Do not let this damage your campus experience more than it already has. Know that she is a problem that can be dealt with later—but work on yourself. Get some self-help books and, as I've said before, get the assistance on a psychiatrist if you think you're going to be struggling mentally. Don't be ashamed to turn to others for help.

Best of luck man. If you need more advice I'll be watching this thread occasionally. Do what I've told you. This will work out, I know you can get through it

Until then.

^^ good point about the phone

You're likely tethered to it as its your only way of contact.

What some find helpful is shutting my phone off, putting it in airplane more, or less extreme just stowing it away in a night table when not needed. It does help stave-off some of the anticipation anxiety.

I dont see anything reaching through this guy. Even the small things. No advice is being taken, whether its break up, or work out. From Dec 2015 to Mar 2016, NOTHING has changed. Correction: he did buy an apple watch and exercise. But everything is done to COPE with the SPAM, not to gain strength to leave. I'd love to see something help this guy but I doubt nothing will. Hopefully she leaves and ends the misery.

Never underestimate the power of apple products and happiness. Hah

It's unfortunate his mind is really his worst enemy at this point, I think most of us have been there. The truth is if she does leave him and HOLDS to it that would be the best thing for him moving forward.

Some real struggle with severe attachment issues. Its as though his identity is entangled with this version of the relationship he has in his mind. Hence the clinging behavior. Like Eckhart Tolle says, its that egoic clinging which keeps people from being present in their own lives. And perhaps that's a piece of it, the FEAR of standing alone in silence and having to present in his own life not knowing where to start even can be a daunting thing to contend with.

As for now he's living in his own prison. I truly hope OP gets the help he needs so he can start getting more of what he wants out of life, rather than more of what he doesn't want.

I have bought a book, almost finished is. No more Mr. Nice Guy. Crazy how accurate it is.

I am seeing a consellor, talking everyday almost. Back on anti depressants too. Hopefully somethings improve?

She is away right now with her team. After our talk when I went to see her, things were decent for two days, she did not contact me first much, and if she did she would send a heart. She would sometimes say, I love you a lot, or I love you, but she always seemed busy to talk. Me thinking how fake it is, yesterday, told her that she seems too busy to talk, or too occupied and doesnt really want to talk. She said it was the situation. Today the same shit happened (I know this seems needy), but I told her straight up, you dont call, you dont care if I go out (told her I might tonight), you dont ever ask what I am up to, you dont do anything that really makes me think you want to talk or even give a shit. She hung up on me. Being annoyed about being hung up on, I called her back, where she ignored it and then sent me a message saying, dont call, have a nice night.

Starting to wonder if there is another guy in the picture, however, checking her phone and everything there is not and her friends even told me there isnt.

Beyond this, I am no longer starting any conversation with her from here on out.

That's a good book, read it last year. Some good perspective on reclaiming your power and how being "nice" is unhealthy to you and the people in your life.


On another note you're torturing yourself and prolonging the pain by having ANY contact with her. This won't end well, guaranteed.

She has little to no respect for you and you're allowing this to continue by reaching out. You aren't ready to move on and care for yourself, it doesn't matter what book you read until you actually take action.

How do I regain her respect? There has to be a way to regrasp her attention without ending this?

Wow. Your brain is caught in a loop.

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sorry but i could not hold myself.

What makes her so special. what the fuck man come on, is her pussy made of diamond i wanna fuck her too.

You are obssessed with this girl It aint love bro. It is just sickness itself. i think if she get fucked in front of you, u are ok with a simple sorry. Do not be so weak man.

No pussy has more value than you. Trust me one goes another comes.

Be strong as a man!

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Tell her you will clean up used condoms for her if she gets a fuck buddy?

Seriously op, your posts will become legend over the decades as the biggest loser who has ever posted on this forum. Even fat douchbag gamer virgins living in their moms basements are laughing at you.

You have to seriously stop asking yourself "how can I get back her respect?"

You have to get some respect for yourself. Work on yourself. Don't give a flying fuck about her: As I said, cut off contact because yourself is all that matters right now.

I am glad you're seeing a councilor. Pour your heart out onto them—you'll get advice that is a hundred times more applicable than what can be said here.

You are what matters.

You are what changes you.

Dear whysoskinny,

With all due respect, I have spent the last 30min-1hr reading and you have HUGE BALLS for your long journey.

With the AMAZING posts from many cool guys (special hat tip to groovy_boy) I have yet to post because I thought this was done and wanted to talk about take aways...

With 15 pages (minus the weird online troll battle on pg 14) of this journey it sounds like you want to go back and I wanted to let you know whysoskinny .... my initial reaction to what you came from.

whysoskinny, you meet a hot girl, and you guys leave Europe together on a roller coaster. The journey starts with GREAT sex as the lead to an amazing beginning but then you get out of the gate. You end up going from Europe all the way to America, and end up finding out you on a ride that goes through lots of forests where tree limbs (as big as the biggest guy on your team legs) smack the HELL out of you.

Then you go from a forest, to the edge of Gritty mountains and you get worn down to inner depression. With all of this you end up with shocks in forms of paying for meals, gas, and being nickle and dimed like you have a child you have to support.

And then this ride on the roller coaster comes to an end with you being launched from a loop and CRASHING; like Michael Bay's Hollywood movie Transformer EXPLOSION CRASHING....

AND YOU LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SO with you walking away, from this roller coaster you want to know if you can get back on a ride like that...

My instant reaction is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (I imagined the pain, and I don't want to think about it again)

I have read your post and I understand (if she your same hometown girl, same languages, and same blood type ....) that you want to get advice for her and I see why you're thinking about it... and the only problem is THIS IS YOUR HOUSE, not HERS.

We're a community (I think we're a community) who still believe in the ideals of "all for one and one for all" or "vengeance" or "have great sex" (even if it's with promiscuous women), etc... ideals of Alexandre Dumas (writer of The Three Musketeers, Count of Monte Cristo and more ).

So I just don't want to see you get back on this hell roller coaster without a plan, because if you got on first with no injuries and got hurt this bad, metaphorically speaking the second ride could turn out worse if you let things go unchecked.


If you need to see her again, I can understand but for now for your own protection, Hangout with people you can relax and be your self if your busy in college, watch some movies, if you want want some porn, by now YOU DESERVED IT, and DON'T GET INTO A RELATIONSHIP with her for now. (lol, okay porn may be a solo thing, but if you need to know where you can watch movies google it, and if that doesn't work pm me.)

Working on inner game, reading is GREAT, but you need to build up with social value in her eyes so sarge and meet other hot girls. you don't have to show off, but let hot women know you have value.

whysoskinny here's a social boost fist pump *pound* Remember you walked away from an action packed hell roller coaster full of Explosions, now you need time for RR. and you can only do so much of that in college.

This has nothing to do with her, at all. It has everything to do with himself, his lack of grounding, shame and other depressive thoughts he's telling himself. She's just symbolic of where he's at with himself, nothing more, nothing less.

Until he decides to look within himself, he'll stay on this same track repeating the same mistakes over and over.

n2thevoid you read that fast?!

oh snap n2thevoid you were a good poster too with the awesome visuals

sup n2thevoid!