Bah! I hate that damn line from girls!! I really haven't found a way around it. I don't want to be too pushy about it, because then 'You're stepping over my boundaries'. The best response I have come up with is, "I see what you're doing - you're leaving something for us to do on date #2 "
If a girl LMR's with no first date kissing, is it worth it to try and keep going for it? Or just get to the 2nd date quick?

"So I guess a blow isn't out of the question then"

A lot of women say things and then do the exact opposite. Turn down the volume and focus on the behaviour less so what's actually being said. Female 101.

This is a terrible response. You are essentially reacting to her. You also reward her for her negative behavior of rejecting you.

A better response, is just "haha ok." Change the subject and try again later.

I usually don't kiss on my first dates either, unless it's at my house

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If that line is continually sparking you probably haven't escalated properly. The kiss is "coming out of nowhere" essentially.

The tip is, BEFORE going for the kiss, you want to have escalated - by getting close, putting your arm around her waist, talking right into her ear, caressing her face etc. Usually before I go in for the kiss when I'm talking into her ear my lips would have touched her ear or neck. She's already ANTICIPATING the kiss.

Ensure that there's a gradual buildup. If you get SIGNIFICANT resistance then you already know that the kiss isn't on. If you don't get significant resistance, then get close to her face, look her in the eye, get a little closer, STOP, build some tension, then go for the kiss.

You're giving off the boyfriend vibe. It's not a line you need... You need to change who you are.

The fact that you don't want to be pushy is your problem.

Lack of proper escalation.

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Its all attitude man.

What are you boundaries? Is your time, money, and energy worth you getting a kiss at the end of the date? is it worth you getting laid? A woman would have to be extraordinarily amazing to not kiss me on the first date and think she'll ever have a shot at seeing my face, receiving a text message or hearing my voice again. And because this is my attitude, and it has been backed up with action time and time again in the past, this is the vibe I give off. And your vibe and frame are the rulers of every seduction.

Give this a read: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=190620

What do you think you're worth? Are just seeing if a kiss is something you can get away with or do you genuinely feel yourself to be worth that kiss?

A can't even remember the last time a woman has said the line " I don't kiss on the first date", I'd probably walk away just for her saying it.

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I agree that you are coming off more as you want a long term relationship or you put too much value on a kiss. Just relax and if you don't think a kiss is a big deal 9 times out of 10 she won't think much of it (but she will think a lot about it and thats good)

I would like add that some girls really do put more value on a kiss than sex. Some girls will sleep with you before they ever kiss you. It's fucking weird I know but it happens.