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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 6:22 pm 
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So I had Friday off from work and did my grocery shopping middle of the day at a local Sam's club. As I'm walking down the aisle to the checkout, I see 2 gorgeous women next to a table who are selling some bs facial care product (attractive saleswoman, surprise!).

As I walk by them, one of them immediately engages me and asks to see my wrist. She then puts some of the product on my wrist and rubs it into my skin while holding my hand so I can see how it works. She is totally focused on the product and is directing the conversation with her questions. As soon as I said I wasn't interested, she immediately approached a middle aged dude walking past us and did what I assume to be the same thing with him.

The thought crossed my mind to try to get her number, but I had no idea how to approach this type of situation. She caught me off guard by asking to see my wrist but I complied (I imagine this is how women must feel when we approach them with bold direct openers). I completely fell into her frame as customer and she was calling all the shots with her questions that she's asked probably a hundred times before. How difficult is it to create some shred of attraction in this situation and get the digits?


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 7:06 pm 
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Nothing is a no-win situation, but at the same time you have to realize that these women are working and not out to pick-up men. The women in question here are working the "sex sells" approach and creating a sense of intimacy by the rubbing in of the product, so that makes it even harder.

The only real advantageous moment you would have had in that type of situation is by returning that sense of intimacy to her while she was rubbing in that product.

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You need more approaches. When you be done with like 20-25 girls doesn't matter if you close the no. or not but it will help you to get the confidence.

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How would you suggest I return the sense of intimacy to her while she is rubbing in the product?

And I've done about 30 approaches since mid February, but only got half a handjob from a 6 (she didn't finish what she started) and a number that went nowhere out of it.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 8:59 pm 
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How would you suggest I return the sense of intimacy to her while she is rubbing in the product?

And I've done about 30 approaches since mid February, but only got half a handjob from a 6 (she didn't finish what she started) and a number that went nowhere out of it.
I guess an example of returning a sense of intimacy is saying something like your ex girlfriend used to put lotion on your hands like that. That would put her into a girlfriend frame pretty much like she was putting you into a customer frame.

30 approaches in 3 months? You could easily do that amount in a week and take a couple of days off.

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:22 am 
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Wow, that line is gold. Would have loved to see her reaction if I said that.

About the approaches: I know, and truth be told, I pass on some approaches I should do, but all in all, I'd say I approach at least 50% of the time when a solid opportunity presents itself. I don't live in a major city though, and the selection of girls isn't the greatest. If I lived in a LA, I'd be like a kid in a candy shop. (I also prefer foreign women by a long shot over American women but that's another story). Sometimes I'll go out just to do day game, but I don't know how to # close a girl in a group without a wing to help isolate.


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