I'm still a newbie and I was wondering how do I deal with flakes. Doesn't matter if the flakes are on purpose or not. For example, I called up this girl to meet up for some ice cream, but she had to get ready for work (she's not lying about it). So that flake wasn't on purpose. How do I deal with that and also how do I deal with REAL flakes?

I don't want to hit up my girls a second time looking like a needy guy. For example,

me: you down for ice cream?
her: no, I have to blah blah blah
*next day*
me: hey you down for blah blah?
her: No I have something to do
*next day*
me: hey, I'm gonna meet up with a friend at _______ you wanna join?
her: blah blah

You see the pattern? how do I avoid that? I had some feedback and people have told me to work on my texting game. I really hate texting game. If I really do have to learn it anyone have a good guide stickied on this forum?

These aren't flakes, these are soft rejections. A flake is when you ask a girl out, you are both aware that at least you are interested sexually, she agrees, and then on the day of she calls/texts with some bs excuse that she can't show, or she never contacts you at all and simply never shows.

In your situation, if you don't make excellent attraction in the initial meetup, typically women will soft reject you as a shit test to see if you'll react like a man or a needy bitch. If she does this, in my experience, she is actually uninterested in you, but doesn't have the balls to come out and say it, because women don't have balls obviously. However, you can actually make her attracted to you by giving her a phone call (i'm assuming you texted her).

The main reason why I don't like to text her for the first date and prefer a phone call is because not only is it far easier for you to convey your attractive personality through your voice tonality rather than some words on a screen, it's far easier to gauge her attraction to you by listening to her voice. by displaying your attractive personality over the phone, you can actually attract a woman enough to salvage what was not the best first impression, and get the date. Despite this, you're still fighting an uphill battle, so you need to be prepared to be rejected by her telling you she's busy and putting off plans.

Women don't flake on guys they are horny with. Work on your face-to-face interactions: fix your grooming and fashion sense, workout on the regular, give girls fun and make them horny with solid eye contact, masculine touches and calibrated sexual framing.

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Here are my two essential rules on texting that will save you tons of time and money:

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I would agree with this assessment.
I prefer the phone as well -- maybe because I'm old school... (and old), but more so because you actually get your answer right then and there. There's no waiting for a text reply, or worrying about what she's actually thinking/feeling when she sees your date invite (happiness, reluctance, disgust, etc). Even if it's an unfavorable answer, at least you've got your answer, right then and there... and you can move on with your life and not waste any more time on her.

If you're being flaked on you're simply not connecting with the women emotionally.

NO one flakes on a guy they are interested in unless its a genuine flake.

So what you want is to learn to prevent flakes from even happening, not to learn to deal with them when they come.

You're forcing meet ups with women you haven't bothered to connect with. Whats their incentive for wanting to hang out with you? We know yours. Whats theirs?

And how did you meet these women you're speaking about..

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Here's how i deal with flakes :

3 times rule.

Well befor i get into the rule, i want to stress the "APHAMALE MINDSET" for lack of a better word, lol.

What would a man of value do?

A man of value isnt needy, but how does he give girls a chance without loosing them?

Well thats COMMON SENSE

INVEST ENOUGH BUT NO MORE

needyness = overinvestment

You want to make sure YOU are feeling good throughout, her aswell.

So in the case of flakes

You shoot out a text, she didnt respond or she flaked, thats cool

at this point you ask yourself, is this real or not?

If you think it was a genuine flake, then try again at an appropiate time that YOU feel FITS YOUR LIFE.

if she flakes the 2nd time then ask yourself..... was it genuine? does she seem interested still?

If the answer is yes, TRY AGAIN at an appropiate time and then by the 3rd attempt MOVE ON.

What did you loose? 5 minutes of sending out a couple of texts. OMG !!!

i useually move on by the 2nd attempt, unless i think she will come out.

Just use your head for this. But dont give up to easily. 3 times is good enough, but remember rules can be broken. like i said, use your head.

Also when it comes to text game, thats all a bunch of rubbish, time wasting garbage, if is a girl you just MET you want to keep it MINIMUM and GET HER OUT WITH YOU so you can do REAL INTERACTION.

All that text game shit is pathetic, is a waste of fucking time, whoever has time to text back and forth with a perfect stranger all day is a fucking loser. lol.

Me personally, i get em out, and i make a strong enough first impression so they will want to come out.

My text's to a girl i just met useually go like this

"hey watsup"

her: Heyaa, not much

Me: Cool, have you got any plans this evening?

Her: Well yeaa my aunt is in town im taking her out

Me: Oh awsome ! Well enjoy, ill text you later


Next day:

ME: Hey so i was wondering when are you free this week?

Her: Thursday

Me: Cool ill text you thursday and maybe we can meet for a drink

-Ok thats just a fucking example, i'm alrdy assuming value, and she can tell i have a fucking life too, also i didnt make it SOLID until thursday because who knows maybe I GOT SUMTHIN TO DO and have to change the plans.

Thats how alphas text.

btw that was just an example, if she texts more you can texts more as well and amplify the connection, but the point is to get her out. Dont be concerned about magic texts lines lol thats ridiculous, meet her in person and spit some real game

*Peace*

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