It's really weird, we connected well on the first date (or at least well enough for us to both want a second date) but literally within the first 15 seconds she's extremely bitchy and distant? When I went to greet her, I touched her shoulder and she's like "Don't touch me." Have any of you experienced this before? After about an hour I ejected myself and she looked away and mumbled:

"Okay well, i'll see you later"

You did the right thing by ejecting. If you don't know why she was this way, it will probably be the same if you went into a relationship with her.

I don't know why she could be like that, maybe it was a bad day? But if she takes that out on you on a second day without explaining why to you, she is not worth it.

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The odd thing was she seemed a little surprised when I ejected early after about an hour. Our first date was about 3 hours long. Before the date, I kept texting to a minimum. Only texted to setup a second date so I couldn't have fucked up before then. In txt, she seemed rather enthusiastic for a day 2. I'm gonna switch to complete radio silence and see how she reacts. If I get a "bad day" excuse or angry txt, I'll assume she is still emotionally invested and I'll make her jump through a few hoops for a day 3. If nothing after a week, then fuck it. Ain't nobody got time for that.

Also get the feeling she might be socially retarded (she's very nerdy).

It might be her it might have been you. It depends what happened or didn't happened on the 1st date.

For instance if there was a chance for you to kiss her and you missed the moment this signaled her you lack confidence to do it. (I don't know about if its true its just a guess) and so there are plenty other cues women pick about you with you even noticing it.

It could have been you body language etc.

Compare your overall attractiveness - e.i. look how other girls see you and so can determine if it was your fault or if it was she is just having a bad day.

If all went well on 1st date and she turned cold later on. Leave her, and try text her after a week or so. I'd try something C&F but that I would like she will enjoy.

Side tip: when she told you not to touch her, what I usually do is: when she touches me for something (and note I might bait her to touch me) I'd say back in an slightly annoyed but still teasing way "Hey DON"T touch me" Kind of role playing. I did that few times when women was pissed about something and didn't wanted to touch her and after that the response was always positive.

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Hey man,

Sometimes this is just how women are naturally; other times, they are just rotten people.

I've had women go from hot to cold in much shorter time periods than between dates, I'm talking like within 10 minutes and it wasn't anything I did, just women being their emotions selves.

It's likely she was having a bad day.(They usually apologize for this at some point if they are interested)

On the other hand, if this type of thing happens often, I'd kick her to the curb...I'm not willing to invest any amount of time and effort into emotionally unhealthy women and I wouldn't ever recommend anybody else do it either, you won't be changing her.

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I tried kissing her on the first date. Got pretty close to her lips and she said "not so fast." I had done a lot of kino up until that point without any red lights. Sadly, last night all that progress went out the window.

I am average looking but fashionable. Whenever I do cold pickup, I almost always have a little bit of physical attraction right at the start.

Only negatives on my impression I can think of is a got a little lost from our cafe to a venue on the first date.

This date I kept it light hearted and fun, even people around us were laughing at my gags. We were indoor rock climbing and about half way up the rock wall I said "I feel like SPAM in the third movie! (then I did the Bane chant for a second)." A few of the patrons near us chuckled.

The problem is your mindset.

You have to expect her too be cold. She could be cold for a million reason, and those possibilities include her liking you. I fucking hate everybody that says that even if its "true" but : she owes you nothing. You touching her shoulder had no purpose and actually slowed your set. That is social acuity.

Now remember this till you die :

Until she is your girlfriend and did massive commitment for several days, all your new interactions starts from scratch.

You want her not too be cold? Well keep in mind thats want YOU want. She has the right to be cold, so do you. Also, she is a fucking human... Everybody is cold or not feeling it from time to time, it doesnt mean shes not an amazing person thats usually passionnate and careful of other beings.

You boucing out of set was almost the worst you could have done. Just proves that you lack socializing, that your looking for acceptance and reaction. Groud your life too yourself because thats all you fucking have in this cold world. You want a girl thats always open and warm to you? You gonna have to go trough a lot.

Now nothing is over, just view it a bit more logical and dont fuck your own emotion because of her because of that or because anybody else. Your emotions are against you until you are who you want to become.

Why did you run?

She could of been PMS'in dude, but don't run. Those are the opportunities in which you learn how to stand in the face of adversity. She was too intense for you man? Come on.. Its just a girl. Imagine if a male lion less a female lioness give him the cold shoulder? He'd roar louder than she could and it would be on. Build that man.. I encourage chicks to be tough because that way dealing with them will make me STRONGER. I'd rather be uncomfortable now and then strong later than to just be comfortable and weak all the time.

But all in all, when chicks go through their mood swings thats when you just gotta penetrate their moods with your fierce love. Whether through you mouth or your gestures. Just come from a place thats stronger than their current level of negativity is. However thats something that has to be built, and the only way to build it is to deal with moments like that one. Encourage a woman toughness. Get your heart broken, Get hurt.. It'll only benefit you when its time to.

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I'm in the "right thing by ejecting" camp. You spent an hr, that's a pretty long time with someone who's being distant. Think of it this way, you couldve plowed for hours and it wouldve just communicated that you don't have standards and all she has to contribute to get your time is her beauty. If she turned down the first date kiss and then was boring/distant on the second, you would probably be waiting until 2015 for sex.

WTF? She has the right to be distant and boring. She is there and could be doing anything else in the world a.k.a. INTEREST. The girl that likes me the most in this fucking cold universe is usualy cold in the opening, I have to relax her and stimulate her for her body temperature to go on and on and eventually she just comes to me.

This. Girls are extremely fickle and it's completely normal to have her in a bad mood for absolutely no reason.

I'm less worried about the second date, and more the first. Not kissing on the first date means she is just not physically attracted to you in nearly all cases. Honestly, even girls who *aren't* sexually attracted to you will usually kiss you if she's just having a good time. Not wanting to at all is a very bad sign. I think she wants you more as a friend than a lover.
You're either dating a particular type of melancholic girl or it's something you're inspiring in these women. Most girls I go out with act extra bubbly and sweet(which happens to be what I like). Being cold and withdrawn is almost never a good sign.

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Truth. Coldness and distance on a date is not my thing...I'm out to have a good time. Most of the time, a girl being a "challenge" or cold or boring is not worth it even when you get them to loosen up. An hour of distance on a SECOND date is way too much and unecessary. Heck, even by MM's 7 hour rule. A blind date, sure there's some distance. A first date, maybe. But a second date?! Things are supposed to get easier, not harder. There's a line between getting a girl to open up or get over a bad day, and sacrificing your happiness and time for boring pussy. I could care less about a girls INTEREST in me. Fuck that. If I'm not having a good time nothing else matters. Girls come easier when they know you're putting your happiness first above their company.

There is a girl that likes me but received much bad comments from my sister... I'm willing to do whatever it takes to get her, burn it to the ground. I just want to do it in a way that gives me more chances. She is usualy cold in the beginning of interaction and refuse physical contact until she has loosen up. What should I know or understand from that behavior? Is there a way u should suggest me too proceed because I know her enough to know that she is a marvelous pick for life and it's just a good loving person with an amazing personnality.

Are yo just trolling? You've written about trying guys out

I'm not gaming them, I just try to talk too everybody in my introvert social challenge that eventually include the ultimate gold goal =- pick up a women.