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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:40 pm 
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Hey guys I'm going to try and keep this as short and concise as possible.

There is this girl in class who I suddenly liked, I used to message her try and get her out she didn't seem to interested so I backed off stopped messaging her, calling and planning meet ups.

Today we were on our way back from class me her her friend and another guy one thing led to another and having something to eat was planned. On the bus journey I ask where are we going which they replied to they already ordered food to their home as they assumed I didn't want to go.

I let my emotions get the better of me and told them I was up for it but they suddenly decided to not go and not inform me about it which I found disrespectful which I explained to them and they kept coming out with lame excuses by the end of it I was so angry I stopped talking to them and went home.

This happened a couple hours ago and my intuition is telling me to ignore them as we have broke up for Easter holidays and ignore them when I come back or maybe be cordial to them.

Any suggestions from my fellow puahs? Especially better ways to handle this blatant disrespect from my perspective?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:45 pm 
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Do you understand what a Sticking Point is?

You haven't built any kind of connection with this girl

Stop studying PUA and wait until you're 18. Enjoy your youth and stop worrying about girls. You'd be amazed at how many supposedly "cool" guys I knew from school who are now needy guys with ugly girlfriends, happy to be a surrogate dad to another guy's kids etc. They cared so much about being cool, while I focused on other more important shit like my career. You are already awesome, women are just a bonus. Remember that.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:27 am 
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Thanks for the advice bro thing is I'm at university and I'm 24 as soon as I started the topic I realised I posted it in the wrong section.

In a nutshell what would you recommend I mean we made plans then on the bus back they ordered food without me knowing and I asked them why we not stopping off at this stop to get food and they said they had ordered already and thought that I wasn't up for it when I clearly said I was. This was blatant disrespect to me and I I got angry to an extent where I remained silent...

Any advice on what to do when I do see them in a couple of weeks?


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You should not have gotten angry. You could have called out their bad behaviours calmly instead of jeopardizing the situation by letting your emotions take over.

Just let it be and say sure, some other time then. You could have done something wrong with the chick or that the chick and the dude are planning to be together.

So you were just at the wrong time and place and you could have handled the situation better by not giving that much garbage about it yet calling out on them for this abrupt change which was agreed earlier.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:18 am 
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The thing is, she didn't actually flake because you've never shiwn any sexual interest in her, let alone arrange a "date" for her to flake on.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:35 pm 
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Thanks for the advice bros I totally agree I should have remained calm but this isn't just a one off occurrence I've made plans and this girl keeps rejecting them I've shown sexual interest in her but she said she only wanted to meet up in group settings... Which she still bails on... Maybe she's just being nice cos she has to see me in uni for another 2 years.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:19 pm 
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Give up. Move on. She's not interested.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:47 pm 
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I do agree with you but at the same time I feel this could be my sticking point in the sense that they aren't interested and in trying to get them invested in me


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:26 pm 
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How often do you go out and open random women in bars or during the day? You need to practise this if you want to get good with women.

This particular girl is not interested in you at all. Your goal with every girl you meet should be: Keep escalating until it leads to 1 of 2 things: 1) Sex or 2) Rejection. If a girl is not interested, kill your relationship with her completely. Don't let her string you along in the friend zone with "maybes".

You need to learn how to isolate a girl away from her group. Why waste time with "group dates". A real date is you, alone, with the girl. Reject offers of group dates. They are not real dates.

Explain to me exactly how you showed sexual interest in her.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:33 pm 
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None I do need to up my game during the day. I agree with what you've said I've already got a lot of friends lol.I started to escalate with kino from not touching at all to touching I did the triangle gaze with good results. I unfortunately asked her out via SPAM for v day but bounced back when she said she doesn't celebrate it. That's when she suggested group dates which I've tried to get her out on I guess the writing was on the wall from then.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:00 am 
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- How soon after first meeting her did you escalate with kino?

- Triangle gaze with "good results"? Explain.
I'll give you a clue. Anything but a kiss is not a good result.

- You don't need to do day game if you prefer nightclub game. But you need one of the two, preferably both.

- Waiting til V. Day was a weak move and doing it on SPAM was even weaker. Her response said it all, it's an 100% "no I'm not interested".

Move on to other girls and learn from your mistakes. Your main weakness at the moment is you are not escalating soon enough. You are hovering around girls and not showing sexual intent right off the bat. The moment you see a girl you should be in there BOOM! within seconds, shake her hand, 'hi I'm hunter, what's your name?', give her a twirl or comment on her soft hands or scent, 'pleased to meet you', hold her hand for much longer than is polite and hold heavy eye contact. Make conversation from there, bounce her somewhere else (compliance) and isolate her to escalate, kiss, kino etc.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:49 pm 
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A couple months in I didn't quite think she was my type at first.

Okay point taken.

Thanks for the helpful advice I'd prefer day game over night game I do need to go out and approach sets more and I guess learn to calibrate and escalate quickly as you've mentioned!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:24 am 
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You need to build more comfort with day game. Aim to insta-date towards getting a coffee, kino, then bounce her back to your place, escalate, kiss/fuck or arrange to meet her in the bar if she won't come straight to your place.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:40 am 
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Unfortunately her and her friends don't like you for some reason which will of corse suck but at 24 dude you should be acting a bit more maturely than this. Move on and forget her/them. You said you had other friends so that's cool. You shouldn't be giving this girl or her friends the time of fucking day after the way they treated you. Why the fuck would you want to be around them after that? Have some self esteem man. There are decent girls and guys out there that you can meet so focus on that.


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