I was sarging girls online and then some dude called me a PUA. So I searched what PUA meant. Scammers I thought back then. While trying to close a girl online, she said I was using cocky and funny on her. So I asked her what that is and she gave me a link to a free David De Angelo material, DYD, if I'm not mistaken.

Read it and used it here and there; online and face-to-face. That got me laid a few times so I thought this fucking thing works. However, I only sarged when I felt like it since I was focused on other things.

And then I got fed up with a pattern in my relationships. I only got involved with women who either have boyfriends or husbands. This inspired me to finally fix this weak area in my life so here I am.

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I was very spotty with girls.

Met most online, some when I had gone to college.

None were very attractive.

I knew vaguely about game from a friend, and had rejected it as ridiculous. I figured I'd learn on my own.

Well, I meet a girl - great body, terrible face, even worse personality - I manage to sleep with her a few times, without having kissed her, because she threw herself at me for 6 months. She eventually got bored of my being a total beta, and starts fucking someone else.

I am super sad. She decides to use my sadness and weakness to manipulate me for months. Even blows the guy in front of me to fuck with my head.

That was the breaking point.

At first I wanted to get her back, and found this site, and a few others.

I read a "dictionary of terms", and started reading about different parts of pick up.

I tested on her, I tested on various girls at the club.

I eventually discovered self worth and felt valuable to women.

I stopped doing it for a few months (and felt I had completely improved, which I hadn't) until I showed my buddy how to get a number of a girl and he was SHOCKED.

That caused him to get super into it, more than me, and he sorta pushed me to excel, which I do pretty well at now.

Since two years ago, I have:

Slept with the hottest girl I had ever slept with at that time, three times over (including three weeks ago)

Had a pretty successful relationship with an attractive girl

Almost tripled the number of girls I had slept with

Have the self confidence to know that I can literally get an attractive girl any day of the week

Hmm you guys are going into a lot of detail so what the fuck i will too.

Pre-pua I was OK with women, I was always bold but my methods were crude, I was basically sleezy, but it worked enough to get me by. Accepted that as just my way for ages never really thought about it.

Heard about the book "the game" in I dunno 2007 or something and didnt think much of it. In 2009 a series of events really hit me and I realised that I was blowing a lot of good opportunities, so i finally bought the book.

Did the first 7 days, got bored and just went back to my sleezy default setting.

In 2010 I met this guy that was bigtime into PUA and he gave me some videos by Gambler and Adam Lyons. Watched them, did exactly what the said, boom getting bangs lwft and right overnight. That sold me on the concept of PUA and never looked back.

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You forgot to include a really common answer: Oneitis

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A friend got me into it.

I was an AFC but I was a cut above the rest. Women liked me, found me attractive and pursued me. I never pursued women, never had the balls to or say hello outside of a socially acceptable frame(Friends of friends/college/school). I had major confidence and self-esteem issues for a long time. I was very shy and quiet, never going out of my comfort zone or trying to hit on women even when absolutely trashed. If a chick liked me she literally had to spell it out to my face and make the first move every time. I still managed to fuck a minimum of one woman a year(Usually getting into relationships) but they all pursued me, not much gaming on my part.

College came around, I loosened up a bit, got a bit of confidence and would talk to people. Realised a lot more women liked me than I had originally thought. Didn't game very well because I was still an AFC and too chicken shit to make a move.

About a year and a half ago a friend was crazy into PUA, introduced me to it and basically forced me to read The Game. I read it, got into it and couldn't put it down. He started telling me about the community and techniques and how women actually think. I realised a few things and had a knack for it. Opened huge sets of women, held myself well and it started paying off the first week I started field testing the stuff. Then a month later I got in an LTR with a HB9(Thanks to PUA and a mixture of my personality. I realised I was naturally strong building rapport, teasing women and keeping interest with them. I sucked at approaching and closing.

Finished the LTR a couple of months ago and got straight back into pick up. Slung shot back into it got a bunch of n-closes, k-closes and some interest in f-closes in the first two weeks back into it but never had the balls to f-close(Plus they weren't that great, probably 6 or 7 and not a cute 6 or 7 at that -- not what i'm used to).

PUA works but there's a lot of BS you need to field test first. Some of it works for some people while it doesn't work for others. A lot of it is all down to the personality. General rule i've found is if you're confident and aloof you can get away with anything and I mean anything. You can't be a shy guy and then randomly ramp up kino. It needs to be expected of you at least on some conscious level and not catch them completely off guard.

I've had a huge confidence boost and self-esteem boost since getting into PUA. It put me on the right track and frame of mind but, admittedly, it's changed my personality a bit. I'm more of an asshole now than I generally was and don't make women feel special enough(You still need to make a woman feel special, guys. You can do this without being an AFC). I feel it gets in the way of building meaningful rapport over a period of time such as when you get into a girl you've been talking to. I've also had women identify me as a "hunter", a player and whatever else women like to call guys who are good with women.

True. But I think Oneitis could fall into either Option #2 (AFC / Loser) or Option #3 (After a break-up)

Well, before PUA, I never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, nothing.Summer of 2011, I was trying to get a date with one of my girl friends and she shot me down in a nice way. I was still crushed though and looked up some videos on youtube about dating. On this dudes description about books he read, one was The Game. So I was like hell, I'll read it, and was entranced with pickup.

In the two years since my personality, social life, love life, everything has changed. Looking back at it, it wasn't really the theories, lines, methods, or little tricks, it was just the confidence this stuff gave me.

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Can you post a quick write up about your method? I'll read it with keenness

I was a total AFC in high school, had sex with one girl one time lol. Fastforward to my freshman year of college and I was very antisocial because I was addicted to videogames. DID NOT GET LAID ONCE DURING MY FRESHMAN YEAR OF COLLEGE! Realized I had to make a change towards the end of freshman year. Summer after freshman year I got my heart broken by a girl that I got 1 blowjob from (lol) and I realized I had to make a change.

Starting off sophomore year I made it my main goal to get into great shape (was a skinny fuck), make friends, party more, and get laid. I sort of accomplished those goals but not to the extent that I would have liked. Had sex with around 4 girls that year which was a big step up from my pussy-less freshman experience. Put on about 20 lbs of muscle over the year and made a lot of connections which totally boosted my confidence. Sophomore year I read the game, mystery method, and started observing these forums. I put a list of openers in a notepad on my phone and would use them at parties with good success. Through some trial and error I was now able to approach women but closing was still tough. The summer after my sophomore year I started fucking a gorgeous girl and we broke up when I went back to college for the year (currently a junior).

This year I've fucked about 10 girls and I'm currently fucking a hottie consistently. I have pretty terrible game quite honestly but I get laid by having a large amount of social connections and throw great parties at my house almost every weekend. That is the way to get laid in college. Obviously you need to be able to open and flirt with girls but I've found that with my average looks you don't need to be a genius to get laid at college.

I'd like to take my game to the next level and start banging top-tier chicks which I've never really been able to do. Sure I've banged a handfull of 8's but I've never fucked a 9 or a perfect 10.

Since high school, I managed to sleep with a lot of girls although I never really knew what I was doing, in terms of pickup. I could never approach them, so I would rely on weasly methods to lure them in such as asking a friend to call her over, voicemail/chatlines and eventually Internet chats and such. I basically relied on my looks and style as I was in pretty decent shape for a guy who had never taken initiative to work out on his own.

Eventually, age/metabolism caught up with me after I got out of the military. My self-esteem came crashing down, became focused on money as my means of attracting women but that never worked out and became AFC as fuck. Wound up in a LTR with an HB5 and that helped me escape reality but she eventually left me after a couple of years. I started going out sarging with a group of guys and figured I could rely on my car, money, and my pad to score chicks.... no-fucking-go.

One of the guys introduced me to David D's DYD. I was amazed. I started reflecting back on my past and was practically face-palming most of the time while listening/watching DYD because it started filling in the gaps of information as to why I was getting laid a lot back then versus what I was doing at that time. I then began using some of the techniques from DYD and saw a major improvement in how I was perceived by women. Unfortunately, I settled with the first hot chick I snatched away from some dude and wound up marrying her before I could really hone my skills.

My marriage is a disaster due to how quickly I settled with her. I'm in the process of getting a divorce and decided to get back to learning PU techniques, so I joined this message board to surround myself with people who may provide some good advice.

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Welcome, friend. And good luck finding the old mojo!

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Thanks.

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I used to be a very shy person. I had trouble talking to any body I didn't know, not just girls. I got tired of being that guy and not being able to connect with people, so I started reading on pickup to improve myself. I wanted to become my best self! I started about a year ago, and right now I feel awesome. The last three months have been amazing, and it's only going to get better. Pickup changed my life =D

I wanted a girlfriend. Then everything changed. My confidence, balls, goals in life,... Then I wanted lots of women. I started to go clubbin' like 2-4 times a week. Then out of nowhere I'm now in a happy relationship with my girlfriend. I really think we have a future together.

I had always sucked with girls, and I had known of pickup for a long time, but dismissed it as "stupid tricks to get girls to sleep with you" and I felt I was "better" than it.

I'd had a string of two or three years of occasional (rare) sex with shitty, not very attractive crazy girls, got attached to one of them with gigantic boobs and the worst personality of any girl I've met before or since.

I was too scared to even ask her out, or kiss her. This was with her literally commanding me to fuck her (we had sex like 4 or 5 times - could have had sex with her as often as I wanted, but didn't realize it). I never did kiss her. It was fucked up.

She eventually got tired of me being an ultra supreme beta, and started fucking some other random guy she met in class. I took this badly and acted even more beta.

She invited me to a party, acted creepy as fuck, and gave the other guy a blowjob in front of me.


I realized at that point that I needed a change.

At first I tried to read about ways to get her back, but as time went on, and I kept reading, I realized how much better I could do.

I put pickup away for a few months, until I ran into an old coworker who also had just gotten into it. I blew his mind by helping him get his first number, something I had only started to do a few months before. He went insane into it, and dragged me insanely into it too. For about a year to a year and a half, all I did was go out and approach. I had gorgeous women flirting with me, I had just about every girl I knew open to dating or sleeping with me.

It changed my life, led to me meeting the first girl I liked pretty much ever (I fucked that up because I was arrogant and didn't think I could get attached, but things happen), and now I'm dating pretty cute super smart, frequently wealthy girls.

Even my sister and her fiance, who used to think I was terrible with women, were absolutely impressed when I had our waitress at a restaurant we went to not only give me her number (trivially easy), but also down with meeting me later that night when we were out drinking at a wedding.

I absolutely recommend it (and the additional work of going out for months and hitting on every girl possible) for anyone who has ever been lonely, not good with girls, or who just sucks in general. Mix that with a healthy dose of life improvement and a strong frame, and you'll have plenty of great opportunities, and if you suck at one of them, oh well, onto the next.

This stuff is great.