and risk being even more despo and needy?

mate, lastnight i bumped into a chic that had done this to me in the clubs. she was like "Heeey" i just high 5 the bich and went on my own way. seriously man. guy or no guy, drop that bird and get onto something better. plenty of girls out there and if she has the nerve to let you go then she doesnt deserve you man. have some self respect

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amen, i realized that... i just felt like it was my fault it all went downhill, but yeah fuck this girl ill just continue moving on, logistics way to hard to fix it anyway... if she was someone i could run into it would be so much easier... im just surprised how this girl dropped me like that... I DHV'd hard and she continued to chase, then she just disappeared... would be nice to know where exactly i fucked up so i can take something back with me and chalk it up as experience... regardless, i did learn some things... im not upset that its over, just happy that it happened... all this shit just makes me stronger mentally and makes me give less fucks when dating... besides im a firm believer in everything happens for a reason so i know all this is just to prepare me for something better...

i know what you mean man, its tough. its supposed to be tough so you can take the lesson. trust me i used to wing it and not care about my fuckups, now i just write up a journal and keep a tab so i know what to do before that same scenario comes up. its the only way to learn. shes a pretty face. had the personality that you Thought you wanted. but hey better to be proven wrong now, than 10 years down the road

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Your thoughts become your words, your words become your actions, your actions become your habits, your habits become your character, and your character becomes your destiny.

I think I was just the 'rebound' guy for her anyway... She got out of a year long relationship just a couple weeks before I met this girl... I think that is why she was SOO into me at the start and started getting all lovey and dovey and shit before our first date... Then she just got cold and I basically chased her away from there...

I know what you feel man. I am in the same position as you (a girl is ignoring me for good while I got plenty of IOIs from her the first time I met her). But yeah as one said: you got your chance and you didn't get her f-close on the second date. Guess what, I didn't k-close with her when I see I could the first time I saw it. Now we're both screwed.

I'll follow this thread because that could help me as well if we got a genius guy, but so far I am going to do the same as you are half way of: wait 4 months and call her. lol. Easier for you, you just need to call her!

Lookup a Guy called Jad T jones on youtube. in his channel, he has a list of mistakes guys makes with women when they meet. crack that. its spot on

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Your thoughts become your words, your words become your actions, your actions become your habits, your habits become your character, and your character becomes your destiny.

I think she got angry because you didn't had the balls to call her.

she is clearly pissed off at me for something.. and im sure it had to do with not following up on a 3rd date.. but she was being disrespectful the day before so i felt it was her fault... i know if i can get on talking terms with her i can work it out but she is young and acts like a little girl (immature)... i didnt realize how bad she was in terms of maturity (she is really selfish) till i started dating older girls and seeing how respectful they are... even some younger girls had way more class than this girl... just too bad i still like her, been thinking about her a lot recently and i have at least 10 new numbers that can easily turn into 1st dates, im just really NOT feeling any of these girls...

fuckkk man i have the fucking same thing, this girl just got 18, I'm 21 myself.
Everything was great, she was so into me, on a party we went to a room, she just jumped on me and we started to make out, we started to get touchy, then she stopped and told me she was a virgin.
We stoped firstly because i was drunk but also i didn't want to fuck her virginity off on a stupid party, not that I wanted it special or something but hey, I want her to remember me as a good guy.

Last night (friday night) she went to this club, I saw her there, we talked a bit but i noticed she acted distant.
I ignored her for a while then I just asked her what's wrong and asked her if I have to leave her alone.
She was a like nooo i was just bussy bla bla bla but after that she was still acted distant.
Her friend told me she just doesn't know what she want, and now I just woke up and said to myself...
FUCK that shit, i'm not waiting for her, i'm fucking other girls, i'm going to forget her.
Do the fucking same, she must EARN her way back if she want's to be with you.
I know it's hard but you must be strong and the best way to do that is to be bussy all day.

You can PM me and ill try to help you out if you need anything.

I feel you man, but I won't see this girl if I never hit her up... I can't make her EARN her way back unless she hits me up, I will never run into her anywhere or anything because we live in different cities... Like I said, I still haven't met a girl as good as her since, only one had a strong affect on me but even she wasn't good enough... I still miss the fuck out of this girl, but I don't know what to do to get her back... And honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if she still had some lingering feelings for me... I really feel like this girl made a mistake cause we really hit it off and she was all over me before I even realized how well we connected... I made my mistakes and lost her but I wish I could get another shot cause I think it would be worth it...

I feel you too man, there are 2 options you choose from.

1. Fuck it, fuck her, try to forget her. Chase other girls, contact girls you've dated before, try to find new girls to get in touch. Maybe they are not as good as she is but trust me, she's not the best.. maybe this will make you angry but she really isn't. There are so many way more better girls than her.

2. Contact her, like they say in Holland: If you don't shoot you will miss for sure.
But before you contact her I would try practise or atleast read some theories on how you can get her to invest in you. You can try this on female friends or just females that you've just met.
But the least thing you should do is to read the theories.

I would go for option 1, there are so many fish out there.. She isn't the only awesome girl in the world.

But like i said, it's up to you.. i wish you all the luck in the world!

Thanks man, I appreciate that... I am trying to move on with my pride in tact and on the side kinda hope she hits me up... I mean this girl isn't that AMAZING but for me, she is pretty much what I want in a girl. She isn't the hottest or the prettiest but her personality is something I don't find in girls. Her only downfall is her immaturity and selfishness...I know I can find a better girl but it is hard to find an upgrade on that, personality wise... I dated hotter girls and they are so dull/boring... I mean good to hook up with but I kinda want to find a relationship at this point... I am gonna take advantage of the new numbers I got and go on dates with these girls and see where it goes but if I fall short and none of them catch my interest then I may just hit her up again...

I just don't know what to say to her to get her to reply... She is flat out ignoring me, and she even deleted her viber app one it said I joined so I know she is doing her part in keeping me out of sight and out of mind lol... I won't be surprised if she likes me still, I just don't want to give her the power again by hitting her up... If I knew where I could run into her and where it wouldn't be obvious I went there for her then I would go for it, but that just isn't possible.

I realized this girl doesn't deserve me back if she ever tried to contact me again... I was "love drunk" before and was acting really beta by hoping she would come back... Part of me still cares but when I think of how fucked up what she did was I couldn't take her back unless she gave me some SERIOUS apology... Yeah she is young and immature but I wouldn't want a girl who is so insecure and self centered to peace on me without saying a word... I didn't deserve any of it. I wasn't perfect to her but she wasn't to me either, she made her mistakes and I let them slide, as soon as I slip she cuts me off... Incredibly rude and disrespectful, and honestly it is her loss. I'm still new to the game and got a lot to learn but I got a lot of good qualities in a person to where I am a good catch... I'm physically fit, got a great career (at a young age) and have been told I'm a pretty good looking guy...

This shit taught me one lesson though, I will never let a girl disrespect me again... Everything happens for a reason so I'll chalk this one up to experience... If I ever see this girl again I am just gonna laugh because this whole situation is just funny to me now... A low value girl beat me good just goes to show how new to this game I am.. I hope to read this thread in a year and see how things change...

EDIT: Deleted her # for good so won't even recognize it if I see it...

Read the book 60 years of challenge, somewhere is said that there are girls who don't love themselves so its impossible for her to love you! Even if you give her everything in the world she will still think you are a loser because you're hooking up with her!
She is so insecure in her self that we actually think you're the loser because she thinks she is one herself.
Fuck her, she ain't even worth the trouble.. Go fuck other girls, you got everything else man.. You're a successful guy and girls are willi ng to stand in a line for you if you know how to do things correctly.