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 Post subject: Goalless and lost.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:25 pm 
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NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO POST THIS, nevertheless, I shall, sorry if it really is the wrong section.

I'm not really sure what to do with my life.
It's like I know what I want, I have my goals, but for some reason I don't care to move towards anything. The goals aren't really that clear or even near anything what I would like, but I don't know what I like or want even.

You could probably imagine me right now as a pathetic frustrated chump. I have confidence with girls, but I don't really want a girlfriend if I see myself as this piece of shit I know I am. I don't even know if I want a gf. I don't know what I care about.

I feel like I could have a HEAVY case of cognitive dissonance, it feels like these thoughts are even in my subconscious, constantly shifting, but never letting me go anywhere.

I keep forgetting things every day. It's like I wake up and I don't even care to look at what I had planned today. I just do a regular routine and feel nothing in the end of the day. I feel like I'm fine, everything's alright, but as long as I'm not improving or trying to get away from my pithole nothing should even FEEL right, right?

I'm just so messed up and I don't KNOW a way out. I can't find what I want. I can't find anything in my life.

I also have signs of ADD. I'm an introvert. 18. I skip school more and more because I just don't see why I should do anything.

Also, don't tell me to pull myself together, if it's not worth doing I won't be. I'm afraid that if I get back up again, I won't find anything or worse.

Here are the questions for you guys:
1. What do you think could be wrong with me?
2. How would you fix my situation? What do you suggest me to do?
3. How do you usually deal with confusion in your lives? Is there a system?
4. Where do you gain enjoyment from your lives? What motivates you?

...you don't have to keep to the questions, write as you wish, add anything you think would be helpful, I appreciate your help greatly.

/punch/

EDIT: I feel if I summed it all up, it's this unfocused confusion I'm feeling. I'm not sure of my thoughts and not sure of my goals and as long as there's a lack of belief for my goals I don't wish to act.


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 Post subject: Re: Goalless and lost.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:54 pm 
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Here are the questions for you guys:
1. What do you think could be wrong with me?
2. How would you fix my situation? What do you suggest me to do?
3. How do you usually deal with confusion in your lives? Is there a system?
4. Where do you gain enjoyment from your lives? What motivates you?
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1: No friends, no hobbies, no career.
2:Quit feeling sorry for yourself and do something about it.
3: I focus on what will benefit me the most in the future.
4: Winning. And getting better at things I dont win at yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Goalless and lost.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:01 pm 
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Don't even worry bro! You're so young, if you start getting your shit together now you're gonna do just fine!

I really started getting my shit together at 19, and now 4 1/2 years later I've done so much already. The great thing is I'm only getting started.

I'm not going to give you any pickup advice, I feel there are others on here who are way more qualified than myself who should be helping you in that area of your life.

The first thing I would do is create a list about things you would like to learn, or hobbies you would like to do, throughout the COURSE OF YOUR LIFE! Figure out even things you might be interested in but you're not sure. Even list things that you want to be associated with your identity, like TV shows you really enjoy or movies or videogames if you play those. Just start gaining a real handle on who you really are.

This could be anything. Maybe you want to start getting into sports and watching and understanding football or basketball more. Or maybe you want to one day learn a foreign language. Or learn how to salsa dance. Maybe you want to one day become a traveler. Start writing down and researching potential locations that could be cool. If you don't work out and want to work out, start researching this and finding potential exercises you might enjoy doing to work out specific muscles. There's so much you can do.

For me, gaining knowledge and skills is what motivates me. It means I'm not wasting time. When you gain knowledge or a skill, a year from now you can look back and be glad you put in the time to learn whatever it was, because it enhances yourself that much more. You won't look back 5 years from now and say "man, I'm glad I spent that day getting high, we had so much fun playing call of duty". Sure it was fun in the moment, but it doesn't provide any value to your life in the present day.

I like reading self help books. Whether it's on confidence, pickup, living healthier, on money, whatever. I'll sit and take notes on books like these while I read them so I retain most of the important info. Knowledge is power.

Also, I do animation dance(look up Marquese Scott that's animation dancing). It's definitely something that takes a lot of time and patience to learn, but it is worth it(and you can teach yourself, unlike most other styles). Everybody does salsa, ballroom, ballet, but few have mastered animation so it's something that'll make you stand out. Another thing I really embraced was fashion. It really is a skill to learn how to dress nice, and if you can learn then that's another plus you have against other guys.

I'm saying this because you're an introvert, and I used to be a huge introvert at that age. I still am, but it's a lot better than it used to be and more times than not I'll say what's on my mind if I want to. Learning how to dress well and dance well has especially given me inner game confidence and self respect I was previously lacking. I'm not saying follow in my footsteps, but it is definitely something to consider as what you've been doing up to this point hasn't worked for you. Just figure out yourself and who you want to become, then start putting in the work to get there. Otherwise you're just passing through life.


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 Post subject: Re: Goalless and lost.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:08 pm 
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Quoting doesn't work? .-.

@Natty
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Your thinking leads me to my old oh rooted nihilism and depression. How meaningless simple goals are. Experience is where it's at.

@B-randon
Thanks, you did actually spark something.

I actually figured a part of this out myself. It's mainly how human memory works. If you dull things down (leave only what you want in your memory) life will get unenjoyable in time, anything you do or experience will feel like shit. On the other hand if you use your imagination and spice everything up every now and then you'll first of all have a better memory and second of all a healthier experience of life.
I'll add this part for now and see if it works for me now. It should. This cure fits to all that I experienced.

Thanks for the replies as always. ^_^


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 Post subject: Re: Goalless and lost.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:48 pm 
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Goals are meaningless? Seems like they work for me and I'm very accomplished even compared to someone 10 years senior. You're 18, so you have very limited experience and might not understand. You asked us the four questions, I gave you what works for me.

Dont post questions if you don't want to hear the answer. Granted, I'm not one to sugarcoat and sweet talk advice for grown men, nor do I feel sorry for you.


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 Post subject: Re: Goalless and lost.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:51 pm 
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Goals are meaningless? Seems like they work for me and I'm very accomplished even compared to someone 10 years senior. You're 18, so you have very limited experience and might not understand. You asked us the four questions, I gave you what works for me.

Dont post questions if you don't want to hear the answer. Granted, I'm not one to sugarcoat and sweet talk advice for grown men, nor do I feel sorry for you.
Goals by themselves are meaningless, it's the experience that matters. You haven't questioned life, have you? Isn't it a little bit meaningless to live your life, achieve this and that and die like it all never happened?

I'm limited? Please post the sources of your facts please, I see a lot of bullshit coming from you and I'm definitely not the only one.

I never asked to be sweet talked or be felt sorry for, I explained my issue and wanted to know if anyone had the answer to my struggles. I found my answer on my own (as always, miraculously scouting around in places where it shouldn't have been found). That doesn't mean, however, that none of the posts helped me, B-randon's post was cool and I might actually learn animation dancing as my second style after shuffle.

I just want to say PLOWING through to become or gain something you deeply have no interest for isn't a correct answer, even if they show out the right characteristics in me, I wouldn't feel happy and therefore I wouldn't do anything about the RANDOM useless "high-value" bullshit goal.


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 Post subject: Re: Goalless and lost.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:05 pm 
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I agree that bullshit goals are worthless....duh.

Granted, being happy can be derived from different aspects of life, and everyone's mileage varies.

That said, success is a large driver for MOST people. Actual success, not fantasized or read about or meditated on.

So get a six pack, make some money, collect something, build something, whatever it is that interests you.

Questioned life, haha what's there to question? You're born, you take shit, you move up in the world and take less shit. Then you die. Doesn't mean you have to be miserable....some of us are having a blast little buddy.


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 Post subject: Re: Goalless and lost.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:04 pm 
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I agree that bullshit goals are worthless....duh.

Granted, being happy can be derived from different aspects of life, and everyone's mileage varies.

That said, success is a large driver for MOST people. Actual success, not fantasized or read about or meditated on.

So get a six pack, make some money, collect something, build something, whatever it is that interests you.

Questioned life, haha what's there to question? You're born, you take shit, you move up in the world and take less shit. Then you die. Doesn't mean you have to be miserable....some of us are having a blast little buddy.
Try to understand what I said instead of being ignorant and bitchy? .-.


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 Post subject: Re: Goalless and lost.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:12 pm 
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I might be misunderstanding you. Lets start over. Me and the other poster both told you the exact same thing, I just did it in fewer words and left out the part about....dancing lol. So what is it you really want to know?


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 Post subject: Re: Goalless and lost.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:14 pm 
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I understand what you're going through.
Not long ago I delved into a depression so deep I couldn't feel emotion, excitement, or even a point of getting out of bed.
After finally deciding to take action I climbed out of it, hopefully you can take some out of the steps.

First; Meditate.
While doing so restate and tell yourself exactly how you're feeling. it has to be blunt, when I first did so one of my first was "I feel like a little bitch"
Next: While meditating think of a time when you were sincerely happy. A time when you felt at peace. expand the memory and envelope yourself within it as if you were actually there.

Third: Tell yourself what YOU want to do. I used to say yes to everything and had a handful of personal problems. To conquer this confusion you have to decide what needs to be done and how. If it's not significant cancel or disregard it and focus on you WANT to be done. Also do this when not meditating, by follow your own path of direction you feel more secure and in control of what you're doing. Remember, be in control of your decisions.


For motivation. Well for this was pretty simple, first don't make goals, find your passion. A goal is something you want to do, a passion is something you're driven to do.
For myself, I had no passion until recently I decided PUA was my passion especially since it balances you internally.
Along with that do things for the experience, just think "Would this be an interesting story to tell someday?"
When you do something to immerse yourself in the experience it becomes so much more worth it.

I hope this serves you well, good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: Goalless and lost.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:50 am 
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@Natty
I forgot what I wanted to know since it's irrelevent to my issues right now. Sorry. xD
Just how my mind works. My main issue right now is how to create a good random information source, which, probably, would need other people, meaning I have to socialize and become interested in others more. I can now see why socializing is so important, if you're left alone for a long time you become empty, you know only a few things and you don't know where to find new information. Trying to find NEW information by yourself is the same as asking "What do I don't know about yet? What have I never seen or thought of?"

@ZealousR
Meditation doesn't work for me anymore. .-.
I used to meditate and get extatic highs that felt way over the pleasure of even sex, but now meditation is like sitting to me. I think boredom anxiety causes this.

And you're right, I'm putting too much power to external influences instead of what I want, even if I try not to, sometimes I just don't see anything that would point me where I WANT to go. It's like there's no "me want", but only "go for high value" sometimes.

I got my thoughts in a better order because of your post, ZealousR, Thank You. ^.^

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I have actually found 2 ways around my issue myself, here they are:

"Make things memorable."
You need imagination, creativity and mindfulness is good to have too here. Let's say I'm going to the dentist or doing anything lame and boring, if I add imagination, spice things up and make it REALLY vivid and different from the regular, I will remember it better and feel better after. Plus it exercises your mind and ability to change and adapt.

"Do what makes you feel alive."
Exercising makes me feel alive. "Feeling alive" isn't something that happens, instead it's something we choose. Let's say you're reading this post, start putting more life into your reading (or whatever else you're doing), energize it, focus on it and you'll see a DRASTIC improvement in moods and energy in yourself. Mainly, the more alive you and your environment FEELS, the better you feel.


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 Post subject: Re: Goalless and lost.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:32 pm 
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The new information source idea is interesting. I'm a lot the same as you in that aspect. Always learning new things, broadening your scope of knowledge, mastering new skills....if you're not moving forward you're going backwards.

Best advice I can give you is to surround yourself with people that are NOT just like you.


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