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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:34 pm 
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Field Report for 6/7/2013

I wanted to go out last night with some PUAs from Delhi, since I have recently just joined a SPAM group for the same, thinking I’ll benefit from going out with some PUA’s. However, since it was a Thursday night, no one was able to come out, and the ones who were planning to were impeded by travel issues. So I went out with an acquaintance from my theatre group to the nightclub right opposite my house.
It was expat night i.e. Expat girls get free drinks till 12 am. I was going there in particular since in my experience, European/American girls are much easier to Game then their Indian counterparts.

I entered with my wingman and was overwhelmed to see such a large number of Caucasian Beauties. I did not keep to my 3 second rule and tried to procrastinate the guy inside me who was saying “Approach, NOW!”. I distracted myself by asking my friend what he would like to drink, and make small talk with him(I was just procrastinating cause of AA).

After 5 minutes of procrastinating, I approach this Group of 5 girls and two guys, by talking to the Guy in the group (no way was he an AMOG); then I transition to the solitary Indian Girl in the group, and shaking hands with the other girls introducing ourselves to each other.) I make small talk with the Indian about whether she is from Delhi, and she tells me she is from the German School.I try to DHV by conversing a little in German, but she is just unresponsive(it was not like she was cold or ignoring me, I could just feel she was no interested in speaking).

Anyways,the convo diddle daddles of, and guess what I do next, go approach an HB9, (the prettiest I saw that night) from Croatia, she is downright gorgeous and about 6 feet tall(3 inches taller than I). ALlthough I muster up the guts to approach, I guess the anxiety/discomfort must have showed up on my face, and combined with the difficulty of conversing with loud, blaring music, makes things difficult and she just kinda signals to me that she is busy right now. Our conversation doesent go much beyond what I have revealed to you.

I head back to the group where I had started my approaches and I approach one of the pretty German girls I had been introduced to( HB 8). I try to make conversation about how she came about to stay in India, but again with the blaring music, and uncomfortable looks exchanged between her and her B5 friend, she bails within seconds.

I now head upto the terrace bar which is much more suitable to conversation . But to my dismay, there aren’t many HBs up there…ALL dancing downstairs :P

I approach two Indian chicks, with some some enthusiastic, positive energy witht the simple opener of “Hey, Whats Up”. They seem to get freaked out and find it really weird that “when a stranger comes up to them and talks to them” . I maintain my frame, and start laughing loudly, and joke about this to my friend. They seem very disappointed, I think, about the fact that they were not able to offend me.
Next up, I get in convo with this American Guy, who challenges me to isoloate this Canadian Girl(HB6) who was with a group of guys. I do so, particularly, because I was not very attracted to her and thus, there were no stakes. Also, her braided hair was a great conversation starter. I isolate her, Kiss her hand, and eject, with a smile on my face for having completed my challenge so quick.

Then, post that, I try to make conversation with an HB7 from England, who kinda tries to fool me that she is from the States, and I think I get fooled for while, anyways, she picks up on my lack of ease /confidence I think and ejects herself.
I also think some of my jokes were lame(like she had borrowed my Peacocking Hat and apparently displaced it and I was like: 500 dollars please). I think it was more about the way I made those jokes then those jokes themselves. I approach another girl from that group(HB5), and she just signals that she is busy. I approach her again, she does the same. I approach her again with the same results(particularly because she so enthusiastically took up the challenge of making my friend open up).HIGH DEFENCES .

Next I spot two HB8s enter and I try to make conversation with one of the males in their group, one of which doesent seem to like me to much. But, they soon leave the group and follow this stinking rich dude in the corner.(I found out later when I saw them standing in the sun roof of his BMW ;)).

That’s it, my sarging ends there. My friend wasn;t able to be of much help considering his shy and quiet nature, but I did use the ploy of trying to get him to open up which worked wel with the girls and they took it up as a challenge.(although I couldn’t leverage that conversation starter much to myself.)

I think I was a lil anxious, not enjoying myself to the fullest, and maybe thinking too much. This is my first Field Report.
FEEDBACK for this NEWBIe would be highly appreciated ☺



Field Report for 8/6/2013
HI Guys, today was my second attempt at sarging. I am content with my results, but I am afraid that I wont convert them into Kiss, and Full Closes …

So I got in touch with a couple of guys from Delhi who were into Sarging( No PUA term used, OK,@ The Sneak ☺? Atleast im learning SOMETHING!!)

So while waiting for my fellow sargers at the metro station I approached a set of 8 girls. Indirect opener. They didn’t know much English(or weren’t comfortable talking to me , in my posh style), but since I was a little apprehensive myself, they, I wasn’t paying much attention to them... and calibrating well enough.
After having persisted , with my English, and suave, I changed to simple Hindi, and tried to simplify…but I had already scared off the poor things(it’s college admission season, so lots of school pass outs are roaming in the University area to collect their application forms). They saved me from the trouble of ejecting,(yes, all 8 of them, including the one I was trying to get :P)

Anyways, so then I meet my fellow sargers, one experienced and in the game for two and a half years and the other, for 2 months, but with little success, for the very first time and we talk a little to get to know each other.

I explain to them how I don’t have any anxiety(actually I do :P) but yet I have little skill, and even lesser skill with the fairer sex. This is not entirely true, ofcourse I do get anxious, but what I mean to say is that I am able to push through it.
So I thought one of my comrades was bringing my attention to this pretty pink girl(need I say that ?aren’t all girls pink deep down anyway? ;) ) So little did I realize that my comrade was telling me to APPROACH her. I realized this when she had already passed by me. Not one to back down to a challenge, I briskly jogged behind her, caught up, and indirectly opened her with directions to a nearby place. She said I should take the metro, and I asked her whether she was going there as well, and if she could guide me. She agreed as she was walking towards it ….so I made small talk, a little DHV (about my college background , and the fact that I had taught at the institute which prepares students for entrance exams), I made her laugh… I asked her where she stays, and it happened to be where my college used to be, so I said that I’d love to come to that area again , “as long as there was a good enough reason to “ ;) ;) She was engaging in the conversation and responded to ask where I live as well. Then logistics became a problem, as there was a huge queue for the one time token at the Metro( she had the traveller card), and I didn’t have the balls to ask her to wait (nor was I sure …)
So I was kinda unsure, uncomfortable, and went in to eject by asking for her number. Refusing courteously, i attempted to make light of it, and ejected.

As I was exiting the Metro Station, I saw one of the best 2 sets of the entire day, but I wasn’t able to approach them in 2 seconds that I had to make up mind, which need to change. I need to make it my second nature to approach.

See. Decide (think:Worth it?) Approach. Bang! Needs to be like a reflex.

Anyways, next set is a recorded one(on my voice recorder). I approached a set well inside the University Area, and my confidence was higher, but more like excited energy. So I approached this two set from which I was attracted to just one. My wingman was with me as well, and he did well to help us to build a rapport , but, I was again very involved within myself, spoke too fast, and did not LISTEN to what they were saying, thus unable to calibrate as well as I would have liked to(Pretty Pathetically if you ask me.)

I approached another 2 set where I didn’t persist, partly cos she was covering half her face with some magazine while talking to me and I was little off mood cos of the heat and my thirst.

Next I approached another set with my wing(the more experienced guy) , and I built good rapport with them. Again. TALKING TOO FAST . NOT PAYING ATTENTION to the target, and thus not being able to calibrate/ cold read. But at last, I did not EJECT.They were looking for a Tuk-Tuk, and my target followed out with her group too.

Next I played a wingman for my fellow sargers, and just engaged others. I see, im pretty good at this.

Next one, we approached a girl with a guy against my wingman’s suggestion, but I somehow had an intuition that they were not together, he seemed to be more like her Puppy. My wingman skillfully engaged the guy and I was able to build rapport with this set. I was able to hear her more, calibrate more and build more comfort. I was also able to DHV. I gave her good reasons to engage with me in the future, and was able to push past her token resistance for her phone number. Yet, later discussing my performance in this set, my wingman noticed things about my set which I did not, so I am obviously not reading /observing sufficiently.An UPDATE on this ; I called her in the evening when I was coming home while driving(not the best idea) … she is a wannabe personality according to my wingman’s cold read and so, I negged her for knowing only Indian dishes when we got talking about her hobby for cooking, and appealed to the wannabe who is adventurous enough to experiment. I maybe should have built some more comfort before asking her to meet me tomorrow, cos she said she was busy.
10 minutes later I got a SPAM message saying
“Hey dude,”
“ you can catch me here”
I don’t reply….10 minutes later…
“Pls don’t call me randomly”
“My family is very reserved(meaning conservative)

I messaged her a couple of hours later.

Hey…im sorry I was at a friends place for his birthday dinner
I had fun meeting you today, so I thought maybe you’d be interesting to talk to
Didn’t imagine a call would be a big deal
She: yeah It is.
If you felt offended I apologize for it.

I haven’t replied as yet.
Any suggestions?


Next I headed to my club for my P.T. session in the Gym, and I approached (indirect) a chick in the metro car. I made small talk, DHVed, and even, made her laugh, but I was distracted , not in the zone, and again not observing nor calibratating. But she was a simple girl, possibly impressed with my command over the language and it’s vocabulary .I was greatly distracted by the prettier girl who had come and sat next to her and was observing me trying to Game her. I was half attempted to change set :p. and confused how to do so. I felt a little conscious of her being aware and of everything that I was saying. Since I was leading the interaction, my discomfort converted to her discomfort and I joined my friend in the other compartment without having asked for her number. I regretted not having asked for her number.
And as soon as I was getting off at my station I did so, but alas as she was going to, the glass door of the metro car closed between us, and she was carried ahead by the metro. I didn’t wait too much time and I decided to open the set for my wingman(the newbie), I opened indirectly ofcourse, and walked ahead to let my wingman make the most of it. She was an HB 8, and with sexy dusky skin, and when he did not make the most of it, I could just not bear to let this go to waste.

This was a girl who had passed out from a convent, I DHVed, and challenged her by stereotyping girls from single sex schools finding it tough to mingle with guys once their out of their single sex environsin their school, and she took it up, after giving it a little thought, much to my delight.
I continued DHVing with my profession and my teaching experience and found out that she was into Dance. I told her how I needed to get some dancing lessons since I need it for my skill set in film(Yes, welcome to Bollywood.)And she’s agreed to help me. I number closed her pretty easily, but made the mistake of not making her save my number on her phone. Will remember this next time.

I tried calling her today evening, but her phone was switched off, so ill try to call tomorrow and set up a meeting, and lets see how for I can get. I am not really good at this part, and I tend to have lotsa girls flaking out on me.

Last approach was definitely not the least , it was the FUCKING BEST.

I was done with my workout at my gym. My trainer leaves me an inch from death.I had my eye on an HB 8.5 for a very long time , but didn’t let it interfere with my workout. My anxiety built up and I gave into it and didn’t open the couple of times we passed each other at the water cooler. I walked out of my Gym disappointed despite my fab workout. I went out cleared my mind a little and waited for her to walk out …I was waiting in the lawn of my club, with some fresh lime to rehydrate myself. I opened her pretty Directly, and after making small talk for a minute asked her to join me outside in the garden for a fresh lime. My confidence was at an all time high, after the workout, I was calibrating well ,DHving well, Cold Reading and even Negging. I even used some NLP and Fractionation.I would have definitely attempted more kino than just the knuckle handshake if it wasn’t for me drenched in sweat.

She turned out to stay 5 minutes away from where I live…. and I’ve negged her for not knowing one of the newly opened joints in our area. I plan to call her tomorrow, and fix something up. But as ive,mentioned earlier, logistics and converting number closes into dates is not exactly my forte, so suggestions/ advice is invited. An update to this is: While writing my FR, I lost my frame, got bored and messaged her on SPAM. Lied I was chilling with some friends and about to head to a nightclub. Plan not to answer her last message and call her up tomorrow, AFTER BUILDING COMFORT , and reminding her of the interaction we had this evening.

1. Lessons learnt/Things to be Kept in Mind:
Talk Slowly(after hearing my recordings)
2. Talk clearly
3. Be precise in what you want to do. And when you decide something, (based on a calibration, do it with full conviction)
4. Stop being so in your head and pay attention to set.
5. Don’t eject.
6. Have a frame that believes the girl will obey you(e.g. wait for you while you get a ticket etc.), and this belief should be backed by solid calibration and reading of the situation and set.
7. Listen.Observe.Cold read more.
8. Calibrate. Calibrate. Calibrate.
9. Stronger Frame Stronger Frame Stronger Frame: Be more audacious. Believe.
10. Follow 3 second rule. Make approaching your first nature.
11. Be disciplined about Journals and FR’s. Doesent matter if people don’t read. Its for you.Don’t get bored while writing them, and ruin you hardwork by texting your well earned number closes them contrary to well thought out plans, and with the wrong(bored, impatient) frame.
12. Escalate? More Kino?
13. Ensure she saves your name on her phone.
14. Now that I have made number closes, no need to neg so much.Teasing alright. But now I need to build deep rapport and escalate.
15. When approaching ,DO NOT spend too much time in Small talk. Transition from small talk to something deeper ,FASTER. Make her feel emotionally connected by making her talk about things that matter to her(e.g. Passions , her nature etc.). Use NLP to anchor them to you.

Guys, I am making a journal so that I can keep posting this for my own record and also for advice. Especially on how to convert the number closes.
Thanks.


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 Post subject: Lamenta 90's Journal
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:25 pm 
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kay...so i went for audition for a YRF film today. Dont know why i went since i ve decided to build on my fundamentals in acting through theatre in Delhi, but i went , maybe cos it feels so stupid to know about a YRF film audition and not go for it.
I don't regret going.
And, it wasn't because the audition was good.Stupid shit. They asked me to hold a placard and talk about my work experience. This is supposed to be more of an eliminatory round i guess. Still, doing films right now isn't part of my plan, so i still dont know why i care.

Anyways,
coming to the point, one of the reasons why i enjoyed going for the audititon was because i met an awesome guy who has been struggling in Bomaby and he gave me an insight about what it entails, and there were some ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS girls.

I approached one as soon as i entered.and didn't get much of a response. I gamed and number closed an HB7 who was there to give company to her male friend.
Irrespective i continued to talk to her and number closed her.

I had invited that struggling guy over to drinks at the Delhi Gymkhana Club, and therefore after my audition, when i coaxed her to come out of the auditon hall with me...it made her conscious in front of that guy and i couldn't kiss close her.I went for a side hug which was mildly reciprocated.

I called her today, but when i started talking about how girls perceived cuteness to be more in guys with less macho physiques giving examples of Ranbir and Hrithik from the acting Industry, i think she caught on to what i was suggesting (that maybe she found me cute although i dont have a model's physique. It's not bad...i am pretty fit; but nowhere near the likes of Hrithik etc.)

So when she didn't respond (silence on the phone)...i asked her whats up? and she's like she was doing something else.It pissed me off, and i said i would call when i was free since i was out driving.

I plan to call tomorrow or day after tomorrow.

I met a FUCKING HB 9.5(desi born and brought up in the hague, holland) at the audition today...i was maintaining good frame and body language with her ...and she started asking me about what attracted me to the Art of Acting etc. But i think i rambled on too much...without building comfort,and even qualifiying her (giving her the impression that she deserved to have me talking to her about my deepest passions just cos she was an HB9.5) and somehow wasn't able to get her to be attracted to me. Yet, i would have number closed her, if i had a more favourable equation with her indian cousin brother who didn't seem to like me too much, despite my attempts to get friendly with him.Any advice with brothers around and number closing?

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Okay Regarding the hot , dusky , HB8 i had N Closed at the Metro Station, i called her today afternoon, she didn't answer and then called back 15 minutes later. She did not have my number saved, as i noted had been one of my stupidest mistakes.

I again, can you believe it AGAIN did not calibrate, and went on and on like a asshole. I felt like if i would stop talking there would be silence... Such a weak frame, so i just rambled on. I was getting to the part where i was gonna say im gonna need the dance lessons you had promised me when her phones battery died. I called her back to find that her phone was switched off. No contact since. I plan to contact her after a couple of days.

Regarding the 8.5 i had number closed at the Gym , i called her...warmed her up by talking about my last night and todays auditions...DHVing + Humour asked her out come with me to a cafe for sheesha but she bailed out citing work. I persisted but to no avail. My friend, @Studd who is from MUmbai feels that maybe i didnt qualify her..and maybe she was genuinely busy. I also feel that maybe i didn't warm her up enough and made hee reminisce about our conversation the previous day enough to feel comfortable and eager to come out.

Thats for the day.

Guys, as i mentioned in my last post...i have a fear of not being able to convert my N-closes to dates, k-close and f-close.
Please help me out ; especially with Phone Game, as its my weakest link.

Lessons learnt...
For God's sake, CALIBRATE, and stop Rambling.
Speak slowly, clearly and with an intention in mind. Every thing you say should be directed at conveying/doing something. Nothing should be said without reason.
Stronger Frame
Stop Rambling on and on.
Calibrate,
Calibrate
Calibrate.

Thanks,
Sarge On!!
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