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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:34 pm 
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This definitely isn't one of the proudest moments of my life. By writing this post, and introducing myself to your community, I am confessing to being a total failure at picking up women. I am the stereotypical average frustrated chump. Between the age of 12-18 I attended a school only for boys. I have no sisters, nor close female friends. As such I have always felt uneasy around girls, and have struggled to figure out what I should be saying and how/when it should be said. Furthermore, I am petrified of even speaking to the opposite sex. It takes an internal fight against the monologue in my head to even ask a girl for the time or directions. However, what makes my case so interesting, is the fact that I am otherwise very good at socialising. I am a popular 20 year old at a major University and I have a strong circle of good friends. I am comfortable with how I look, and female friends (typically partners of close friends) have commented that I am an attractive guy.

Sadly, my upbringing has left me lacking the social skill set required to attract and socialise with women, and the problem has got so bad that I feel something must be done about it. The PUA community has offered me a life-line. I really hope that through this community I can develop these skills whilst providing support to people suffering similar problems.

Now that I have introduced myself, I intend to open with a brief question: I feel very overwhelmed by all the material offered from the different schools of seduction. Please could someone recommend one good source of PUA material that I could read/view and then practise, taking into consideration the fact that I am English and we are somewhat more reserved in our conversational style than other cultures?

Yours faithfully,

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WOW!!!!!!

Dood, you need to be comfortable with yerself, but at the same time take this on as a new challenge!

It's a new year, a new you will be born...Yer time won't be wasted unless you allow it to be...

First and foremost, stop thinking like them AFC's homie!!!!

I bet you don't smile a lot huh? You should smile more brother...

Sometimes a smirk wouldn't hurt... From this day on... When ever you enter a venue, class room, office, library, hallway, etc... You smile brother... You smile because you know yer on the verge of letting everyone know that yer "Vanity" you feel me????

You gotta be comfortable with self brother!

Being that yer English, yer accent will rock! Thats if yer in the States, if not, then cool, then you said yerself, you stated some females friends find you attractive huh? Next time a female friend makes a comment about you... Smile/Smirk and say... "Thanks, but if you get any closer I'm gonna have to ask you for a payment in advance..." Then just kinda do a wink smirk, but try no to be cheesey about it ya know... Having a sense of humor, being a lil cocky and maybe if you can use a neg... Tell her how nice her shoes/boots/pumps/etc are and that you've seen that same pair like 3 times that day... LOL... Just have fun brother...

Good Luck...

I think you'll do just fine by us...

Haha...

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Hello Custom :)

Initially I just wanted to thank you for saying hello and reading my background. As I said in OP, I feel I'm kinda an interesting case, because whilst I might be an AFC as far as women are concerned, I am otherwise very good at socialising and I'm very comfortable with myself. However I am a real AFC as far as women are concerned. However, I confess to being a real AFC as far as women are concerned, do you have any advice for how I can break out of the AFC mindset?


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Get into the habit of talking to everyone and anyone... Not just HB's...But I mean everyone people in yer classes, down the hallway... I'm mean come up with funny weird situations and get reactions out of people...

This will then start to breed a level of what I call "Fuckit" and well you won't seem to care wat anyone thinks because yer just talking...

Try new things, try to do things you wouldn't do, try talking!!!

Start with people in yer class rooms...

Make up shit, like hey, you noticed how the professor say "Uh" a bunch of times... Or make a comment about how the professor kinda has a weird look to him... I mean c'mon you can figure it out, but remember to no put any one down try to just improv ya know...

For instance survey yer surroundings in a boring class...
Then look for a female student or male which ever you see, and see if they are taking good notes... Then work up yer notebook like such...


Date/ Class/ Subject

Notes

Notes....

Then at like half way thru the note taking page...

Write a sentence as far as yer note taking goes but instead have it run off to swiggley line...

Make it look like you feel asleep while you were taking notes...

Then use this as great opener to talk to a cute girl...

Just make sure she took some good notes... Then ask her if she has a moment, and explain and show the situation...

Makes sense?

LOL...

It's all about having fun ya know...

Good Luck Homie!!!!!!!!!!!

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Please could someone recommend one good source of PUA material that I could read/view and then practise, taking into consideration the fact that I am English and we are somewhat more reserved in our conversational style than other cultures?
First you'll need to read up on the general outline of the game. I suggest 'The Game' (if you want a real book), The Venusian Arts Handbook by Mystery (eBook), or Double your Dating ebooks/DVDs.

I find that the culture thing doesn't really make a difference apart from the obvious lingo which you need to switch around. There's plenty of UK people on this and many other forums who use US material and vice versa - it's an international thing as we're dealing with a universal problem ;] Infact, some things work in our favour, the 'personal space' is one (we tend to give a lot less, which is good after 30secs) for example.


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This definitely isn't one of the proudest moments of my life. By writing this post, and introducing myself to your community, I am confessing to being a total failure at picking up women. I am the stereotypical average frustrated chump.

Yours faithfully,

Vanity
Think for a second here.
How many people are in the know-how of the seduction community?


Thousands, so your not alone.

Your doing something that not many people willingly do.
Improving yourself.

Great job man.
That takes a lot of heart to do, to change up and improve on what you arent successful with.

I think the Eastern World is full of seduction stuff.

Wayne elise, i THINK is from europe.
Charisma arts I think is there too.

Hell, some of the best PUAs are from there.

Uhh, I know theres a Leeds Lair around there.
search around and you'll find a lair around where you are


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Please could someone recommend one good source of PUA material that I could read/view and then practise, taking into consideration the fact that I am English and we are somewhat more reserved in our conversational style than other cultures?
First you'll need to read up on the general outline of the game. I suggest 'The Game' (if you want a real book), The Venusian Arts Handbook by Mystery (eBook), or Double your Dating ebooks/DVDs.
Thanks for the advice, I have started reading 'The Game' and it is a very entertaining read :) Is The Venusian Arts Handbook more of a textbook? If so then I will purchase it if it gets good reviews...


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dallasone2,

Thankyou for your kind words of support, I look forward to sharing ideas and tales of success with you over the forums :)


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I'm keeping this short!

But if your one of those rich posh English kids, you wouldve been trained to demonstrate value by the way you walk, talk, so on.

I had this mad english teacher she was really posh like, however she talked or walked, she always demonstrated so much value, and made everyone of the kids be like ' damn shes like a rich english womman or something'.

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I'm keeping this short!

But if your one of those rich posh English kids, you wouldve been trained to demonstrate value by the way you walk, talk, so on.

I had this mad english teacher she was really posh like, however she talked or walked, she always demonstrated so much value, and made everyone of the kids be like ' damn shes like a rich english womman or something'.

;)

-pact
I guess some people would call me posh. Obviously I don't look upon myself as being posh, but I am pretty sure that some others do. Thanks for the words of confidence - Im sure I can parlay my upbringing to my favour if I commit some effort to it. Unfortunately there is a very fine balance between demonstrating value and just coming across as a pompus idiot. I will give it some thought.


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I guess some people would call me posh. Obviously I don't look upon myself as being posh, but I am pretty sure that some others do. Thanks for the words of confidence - Im sure I can parlay my upbringing to my favour if I commit some effort to it. Unfortunately there is a very fine balance between demonstrating value and just coming across as a pompus idiot. I will give it some thought.
Mate, be posh.

I was in this bar the other day, real trendy place with jazz music, cocktails, white suits and cocktail dresses. I swear nearly everyone in the place was a millionaire - I have no idea why they let me in. The girls outnumbered the guys, and nearly every girl in the place was at least HB7 / HB8. An HB9 approached me, but her boyfriend is a football manager of a well known club. They're all golddiggers looking for money and status - this kind of thing is probably more your scene than the club if you've got an RP accent and people say you're posh. It was a lot easier to run game too, as the music volume was low and I could sense the bitch shields were low too. Anyway, I digress.

So play to your strengths. I'm going to PM you with some good information tomorrow.


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I guess some people would call me posh. Obviously I don't look upon myself as being posh, but I am pretty sure that some others do. Thanks for the words of confidence - Im sure I can parlay my upbringing to my favour if I commit some effort to it. Unfortunately there is a very fine balance between demonstrating value and just coming across as a pompus idiot. I will give it some thought.
Mate, be posh.

I was in this bar the other day, real trendy place with jazz music, cocktails, white suits and cocktail dresses. I swear nearly everyone in the place was a millionaire - I have no idea why they let me in. The girls outnumbered the guys, and nearly every girl in the place was at least HB7 / HB8. An HB9 approached me, but her boyfriend is a football manager of a well known club. They're all golddiggers looking for money and status - this kind of thing is probably more your scene than the club if you've got an RP accent and people say you're posh. It was a lot easier to run game too, as the music volume was low and I could sense the bitch shields were low too. Anyway, I digress.

So play to your strengths. I'm going to PM you with some good information tomorrow.
Vital, I look forward to receiving your PM :) Hopefully we can find a way to play off my strengths. That bar sounds really great, I'd love to visit it sometime. It was located in London I presume?


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From your first post it was obvious that you're posh. And if you dont see yourself as posh and other people do. Then your proper posh. Posh people never see themselves as posh.

Firstly, being posh works better for women than it does men. You need to get abit of swagger about ya and not accross as bland. But its about seperating yourself from the rest of the pack. If your at a posh event, dont be the typical posh kid, but if your at an some shitey bar, be posh and different to the other guys she meets.

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