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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 6:05 pm 
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So I luckily found out about that PUA stuff a few weeks ago and started taking a look at it... At first I was totally against it because a friend sent me a really weird German eBook full of bullshit. Then I thought I give it another chance (I can't continue doing nothing anyway) and found the "Stealth attraction" stuff and that really got me interested in those things.
I'm a 22 year old virgin who has never kissed a girl and only once approached one (until this writing, that is) and now trying to get a life outside my 4 walls of comfort.
My main problem is getting a conversation together and leading it... It's actually a huge issue and I'm glad for every hint I get.
That's the material I looked at so far
[*]Watched "Stealth Attraction" - This kinda blew me away watching it.
[*]I watched PUATraining's stuff on youtube.
[*]I'm reading a lot in the puatraining blog
[*]I read the quite short but great "Small Talk Tactics" from MakeSmallTalkSexy
I'll be posting my field reports here, so you can learn from my mistakes and I keep track of them as well, and can see how I improve :wink:


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 Post subject: First day
PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 6:58 pm 
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Ok actually this is 2 days ago. I just finished watching "stealth attraction" then, and besides that was completely clueless.
But it's about practice anyways, right?

I apologize for it being really long, but it's my first report, so I really have a lot on my mind, and I want to write it down.

Things gone wrong are in blue italics.

So today weather was great, so everyone was outside on the lawn in front of the university - no big deal actually.
I walked across, not really caring about all the people. Suddenly I hear a girl (I'll call her X) sitting a few meters in front of me on the stairs say "Hey, hi!".

Some probably not very important background:
It was a girl I haven't seen since secondary school - like 6 years ago - and damn was I into her then, she was my "the only girl out there", though I never asked her during the three years in secondary school. That was awful, never do this! Nothing's worse than falling in love and then not to know if it would've worked. Rejection is peanuts.
She was totally sexual and let everybody know that back then, when all other girls where just about finding out that they're girls. And actually at the very beginning she tried to "pick me up" in a very physical way, though ironically I blocked her off like a girl as in "you don't try hard enough". She "played" with me during those 3 years sometimes, which I liked, but unfortunately it never got serious.

Ok so there she was sitting in the center on the stairs, really nicely dressed in a black one-piece with a friend of hers on the left end at the balustrade. I sat down to the right of her.
First damn mistake: I sat at the place where I have plenty of space instead of between them kinda isolating her and getting a chance to break the touch barrier.
She introduced me to her not-hot friend and I went on talking with her... Like some standard stuff, what we've done those years and what she's studying, for about 4 minutes. Then it gets a bit interesting again as we talk about the time in secondary school.
X: "So did you ever see J again? You were friends with him, at least in the beginning. Then you guys hated each other." (laughs)
Me: "No, never seen him again. Not that I'd care. Well I kinda had a problem with about everyone back then" (During those years I was totally bullied and didn't have a single person on my side - explains a lot eh?)
X: "Oh really, you did?" (by hindsight I feel she started playing with me here)
Me: "Yes, at least with everyone I had to deal with. Not you, we hardly had anything to do with each other"
X: "Hahaha. Yes, I guess I was more into Adidas shoes and nice handbags back then. Sorry!" (Now she's totally playing with me, provoking a response about our "relationship" that wasn't and her character. She was totally into guys back then, having a new boyfriend every two weeks)
All three somewhat laughing.
Me: "Yes, I guess so. Wouldn't have minded if you did, though" I guess that was a mistake to say that.
I didn't really notice, but I think that woke up something inside her. We switch the topic to about the time we didn't see each other, and how she shares a flat with her secondary-school friend. I feel that it starts to drop. I'm thinking about leaving and how to number-close it, but unfortunately her friend is first.
X and her friend: "We should really go now, to our lecture" (I looked at my watch. They'd be late anyway)
Me: "Yes, I should, too. Where will I see you again?"
X: (chuckles a bit but hides it behind a smile) "Well, in (City A)... but of course here as well..." (Like she couldn't get any less exact - playing again...)

So since I was still kinda into her (she really became a HOT GIRL!) and I wasn't able to number-close it, I made a huge mistake - I decided to guess when she's finished and catch her when she'd get on the train.
Yes, she was on the train. But her friend was there as well, and because of that I was very self-conscious about the whole thing (or at least it was a good excuse for me). I had 45 minutes to spend with those girls and no excuse to leave.

First they learned a bit for their exams. I decided to start conversation afterwards. After like 10 minutes they finished, and I started conversation by asking why they'd already now learn in the train.
They started getting their iPhones and earphones out. Quick, do something!
Me: "Oh, what music do you listen to?"
X: "Well, nothing special."
Me: "No reason not to tell me."
X: "Really, some generic stuff."
Me: "I don't mind, just tell me!"
X: "Uh... Electro."
(short pause, I hope getting her to tell a bit more, but she doesn't)
Me: "Well, that's not THAT generic." (GO AWAY, NICE GUY!)
X: chuckles "Yes it is, everybody's listening to this."
I catch a glimpse of a bridge I remember too well from when I was on my 100km march in the army officer school. Some nice DHV I thought.
Me: "I see that bridge almost every day, but it always reminds me of my 100km march we did in the officer school."
X: "Oh, I hate walking!"
Me: "Really? I don't, I like it. But I hate running."
X: "I hate that as well."
Me: "So what kind of sports are you doing?"
X: "Nothing - except smoking."
chuckles. She totally controls it, and this time I even realize that she's beginning to play with me. I unfortunately like this sensation of a girl playing with me when I try to get something from her.
Me: "Ah - walking to the fresh air and back." Laughter, and this time it was mine.
Me: "You started in secondary school, right?"
X: "No, that was Y (her secondary school friend she shares a flat with)"
Me: "Ah I see, so she dragged you into this."
X: "No, I started on my own."
Me: "You never start on your own, it's always your friends" (Damn, why do I argue with her when she's just teasing?)
X: "No, I started, it's my thing!"
Me: "I don't think so."
Awkward silence for the rest of the train ride home. I lost.
I see them exchanging some glances, and I understood too well what they meant.
After arriving I tried again to start talking, but after a few words they walk to a different direction (to another train?!) with a short "bye."


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:23 pm 
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I'm probably a worse AFC than you. But keep going brother, I love these updates.


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 Post subject: Field Report Nr. 2
PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 4:43 pm 
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Thanks :mrgreen:

Actually this is FR3, but my planned daygame didn't really start off because I felt kinda sick.

So yesterday evening I decided to go to the local club (it's more like a disco actually). After a short struggle to decide I went in.
Money spent on that evening: Too much. 25 for entrance and two beer which cost 6 each.
It was ridiculously crowded, one could barely move inside except on the dancefloor where there was barely more space.
Got a beer at one of the two bars, then moved over to the other one, looking around for targets. There was barely any girl I even considered approaching and most were with a man (and approaching a set with men in it at the first try? No way!).

At the other bar while drinking my second beer (I wanted to go to the dancefloor but I was a little too nervous yet) I saw a set of two HBs. One was totally a 9 at least (looked like Lexi Belle lol) and the other was an 8. Too bar there was a man with them. After I finished my beer I got the courage together to go over there, but they just went to the dancefloor, so I went there too.
I asked him which one's his "target" an too bad - the 9 was his girlfriend (at least that's what he told me).
Due to me being a totally awkward dancer I didn't try to isolate. Probably should have anyway?.

So I went on.. err... "dancing" around (the dancefloor was a circle around the DJ podium) a girl dance-approached me! And an attractive one, too! I reacted to this by somewhat "imitating" her. She laughed and walked away. The idea of taking her hand while she approached me and turn her in a circle once was a tad too late.

After that I approached three other girls dancing, but always got rejected by that "WTF are you trying to achieve with that, you weird creature?" look and then ejected immediately. That definitely didn't help my dance-confidence.
Since that pretty much was it about attractive girls an I was kinda demotivated anyway i left the dancefloor, and the club soon after, pretty much 2h after entering (yes, it was THAT crowded).


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:50 am 
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keeping going buddy.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:54 pm 
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I won't keep posting here. See my blog.
http://projecthappiness2013.wordpress.com


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:54 am 
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Hey, starting to post here again anyway :mrgreen:
I went out tonight with green_dot from this forum. The club we wanted to go was about a 30-40min walk from the train station and it was 10pm. Half-way through we went drinking a beer, and again half-way of the rest of it we did some pushups at the barracks lol, just so we did something and it was quite refreshing.

We arrived at the club and went in at 11pm, there weren't that many people in there unfortunately, so we decided to go to the bar and take a beer. I managed to get myself into that awesome "I don't care and everything is awesome" state which I hope I'll be able to reproduce. Left to us with one seat in between was a girl on her own who looked a bit boring. I found this to be totally awesome and I knew: Either I'm going to approach her now or I won't be doing anything that night! So half-way through the beer I asked green_dot "Hey, should I approach her? :mrgreen: " and just went over there and approached.

No big deal, I said "Hi, how's it going?", did a little coldreading to find out what she does for a living and just chit-chatted a bit. Nothing too awesome or anything, but I managed to keep the conversation going for almost 10 minutes. She wasn't really receptive and in the mood, so I left her there and finished my beer.

To both the left and right side of the dancefloor were tables to sit at, and there were two threesets, so we decided to split up and take one set each. I went to mine, "Hi, how's it going?" and sat down which was probably something I shouldn't have done right away.
It was a quite nice threeset, two very attractive black-haired girls and their "fat friend".
Asked them if they were in a party mood and enjoying the night, and did a little coldreading where they knew each other from. Two of them were actually twins, so that made a good topic, I knew a twin and her boyfriend once confused one with the other which made her really upset, and asked how they'd react and if it happened to them before, while starting to focus on the girl I was interested most in.
I asked her "are you a good dancer?" and she said "no, but the other two are", I then asked them and they both said they weren't at all, and I laughed.
I started talking with her about something I don't remember, then we all stood up and I told her "let's go to the dancefloor!", her friend told her to go, but the fattie said "We'll go outside for a moment to take a breath of fresh air" and they went away I probably should just have taken the girl I wanted at this point... It really makes me think.

My friend went out smoking so I shortly went to his threeset, asked where he was, went away again. I just enjoyed myself for a minute, standing there moving with the music and smiling. We got a shot at the bar, then he went back to his threeset with me joining him shortly after.
He told me that the one on the right probably liked me, I got for the one on the left first, though.
She turned out to be very bitchy, I tried four times to start a conversation but she turned me away. The fourth time I asked her about her watch I just noticed, "Hey, someone wearing a watch! Let me see!", but again, nothing. I then started to talk to the one to my right about her not having a watch, and then about something else I don't remember, but didn't kino even though the situation would have been right for it.

My threeset came back in, and a little after they've seen me with my friend at the threeset, I went over to them and asked my favourite to dance. I shouldn't have asked her, I should just have told her what I want and take her. They didn't want to. green_dot and I went to the dancefloor anyway as his threeset went dancing as well.
I don't have to state again how much I suck as a dancer, but I didn't care at that moment.
The fattie was at the table, while the other five were enjoying themselves, and five minutes later they were all making out with some black men who just grabbed them on the dancefloor. Ouch. We left the dancefloor since all girls were dancing with men by now anyway, and we're both no big dancefloor fans.
Oh, iirc I approached a girl standing right at the border of the dancefloor, but she didn't really react and didn't look as if she was interested at all so I walked away.

I approached another girl sitting on her own, but she had a boyfriend to whom she "ran" right after I left. We saw her later still sit there alone, her boyfriend being at the smoker's corner.

Since there was nothing left and we didn't want to just sit there (and I didn't want to watch our sets make out with other guys) we left the venue and went to one at the train station, so we had to walk half an hour again.

The music was much much louder there, light effects everywhere, and very few sets, so we would have needed to approach on the dancefloor or pretty physical (or both, lol). I didn't like it.
I've seen a twoset and a oneset just sitting, but didn't approach.
Then there was a fourset, four girls just on their own having their own party... I approached. They couldn't really understand me, I looked at the girl I was interested in, which was in the middle, and I thought it's a good idea to take her out there right away, so I wanted to reach out, but all I heard was a "Keep your fingers off!" and the whole fourset walked away. They didn't want to talk to any men it seems, they rudely rejected everyone approaching them.

A bit after that we left the venue and took our first trains home.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:14 pm 
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personally the times I get laid are the times I stop caring about being anything special.
I don't think about what I say as much and just say what I want and stick up for myself.

I'm no expert.
Just saying if you stop being shy and stop giving a shit about what other people think it goes a long way.
e.g. I walked up to a girl at a bar and said "You're cute so I thought I'd talk to you." and smiled. She said she had a boyfriend but chatted with me anyway for a bit. Then I didn't feel like talking anymore and wandered off.

Later I ran into her and she introduced me to her hot friend Sarah. After chatting for a bit with Sarah and getting her number I said "you're cute, want to have sex?" and smiled. She said "umm... Maybe. I'll think about it." and we kept talking and went and got a drink and then later had sex that night.

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