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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:44 pm 
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Friday night I went out with sparxx my wingman. That night was a little rusty. First of all I was a little drunk. When I am drunk I suck with women – I became very uncalibrated and often very ”anti-social”. Second problem I had was that I didn’t bother ”gaming” women. I was impatient. I wanted to close the deal without any work at all. As a result, I didn’t do my usual game. I didn’t focus on the outer game aspect. For instance I didn’t do my usual thing that has always worked for me. I did some sex talk previously but until Saturday (the date of the occurrence from this lay report) it was just sloppy stuff. Being lazy is a bad thing.

But as a result of not caring, sparxx getting laid on Friday, I felt that it was time for me to wake up from the dead. For the first time in while, I planned going out with the intention of getting laid and focus on tight game. The purpose was to do again what I have always been doing – and get my usual results. I decided to first of all start going out a little earlier, and not drink at all. I also forced myself to use my standard old game. I was expecting to get results. Not so shocking they came, and it blew my mind how tight things went. It was actually a night of beauty – I was being super consistent.

Saturday - The Report

I went to sparxx place and we grabbed a take away pizza. After talking a little and me convincing myself that tonight I will actually bother about results - tonight I will actually pick up women; tonight I will focus on doing things properly. We went out early (11.30). I met a chick I knew there, we talked for a little. The vibe was good. Sex talk wasn’t required as she went to school with me for 2 years ago, and she knew what kind of man I was. It was early and nothing happened.

I did however approach a set. Sparxx got in. I ended up talking with the one who wasn’t that hot, but that quickly changed when a dude from outside came in. I talked with the hot one and the vibe was great. We talked about weird sex stories such as:


- The night I was out with Regal (Chase Amante) in Beijing where I met a girl who fucked me, and suddenly started doing weird moves and said ”ahhhhhh TIGER SEX”

- The story of the Chinese girl who cried because I used a condom – ”I want baby with white man”.

- The story of ”the chick that peed in my bed”


Good laughs were the outcome. I also talked about sex being not a big deal – criticizing our judgmental society, ”no girls are sluts”. Things went well… but I just didn’t felt like this was going anywhere. Sparxx seemed bored to death, so we decided to head to our precious gay club.

At the gay club, it was basically a one shot one kill. I went to the ladies bathroom with sparxx – it is allowed for men to enter it, as it is a gay club. This place is awesome when it comes to meet women. I met a group of people there. All of them were gays, but there was one hot chick in the group. She was hot but I didn’t hit on her yet. Nor did ever do so. But that is another topic. We all talked, laughed in the middle of the bathroom and had a good time. We finally called ourselves ”The toilette guards”, ”the bathroom wizards”. Good times. Sparxx actually met a hot girl he knew. She was shocked seeing him at a gay bar – ”omg are you here… are you gay” and quickly resulted in a kiss-close for him. Sadly… in my opinion he failed to convey that he was truly heterosexual – which is very important in gay clubs (or you get ”let’s just be friended” big time). However she seemed interested in him, but she was slightly drunk. He still had chances to get her, as it was not too late yet. I will let him share the rest of the story. It turns out the girl sent him a lot of messages afterwards.

However, people went in an out in order to go to the bathroom. We stopped them and greeted them. Suddenly a very sweet blond girl came in. Very innocent looking, curly hair and a smile that was just so sweet. She asks whether the bathroom is free or not – and we all answer that it is. On her way into the bathroom stall, I made initial contact with her by staying:

”Just scream my name whenever you need me to come in an dry you up”.


She laughed. When she came out she told me ”thank you for your offer, but I managed to dry myself up on my own”. We talked a little. She complimented me on my style – and she has good reasons to do so at my style is really good (black stylish boots, slim fit black jeans, a while singlet with a print of a red hearth and a black dress jacket with small fashionable rivets). She thought I was gay. I told her I was heterosexual”. She didn’t believe me – so if saying that I am heterosexual doesn’t work out, then I have no other choices than to show her that I truly am. Of course, trying too hard will come across as needy. So what I did was to move in closer to her, facing her - there was a short distances between us. I looked at her deep in the eyes as I was talking to her. I took my hand around her neck as I was talking. To my things more efficient, I made it mutual by taking her hand and put it around my own neck. She was a little resistant. That is important to note.

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TVA: I am actually heterosexual!
HBblond: No, I think you are gay! Why do all the cool guys have to be gays?
TVA: well… probably because they dress well?
Hbblond: yeah that is why I think you are gay…
TVA: (looking at the eyes for a few minutes without saying anything)… erhm no! However I think you like gays because they understand women more than most men. Also they are not needy, they are not like all sexual all over you, begging for your attention!
Hbblond: I know, I can… just be myself around them. It is like… I can flirt and have fun and the guys don’t become stalkers.
TVA: exactly… you can be yourself. The problem, I believe, it not itself that men are sexual toward you, but rather that they are in a needy manner. I think the reason you like gays is because you can be sexual around them without having too many implications – you are just sexual, they don’t make such a big deal out of it!
Hbblond: yeah indeed! It is such a stupid thing that most men, whenever I just flirt with them, they are all over the place.
TVA: be careful… I am heterosexual.


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Sparxx saw that there was something going on between that girl and me and quickly left the bathroom. Her gay friend shows up, which seemed like a cool guy. She asks him whether he thought I was gay or not. To my own luck, he said ”NO”. They were both heading to the bar… and asked me if I wanted to come along. We found some seats. However, even thought the gay guy was cool, he seemed like an obstacle, as he had nobody to talk to. Freezing him out would just result in him cockblocking me, as I was taking away his friend’s (my target) attention from him. So I tried to drag him in. I didn’t do well on this term, but once in while, when I had a simply conversation I did my best to drag him in.

My target and I were talking, sitting next to each other. I felt that it was now time for some tight sex talk. But this girl was not the typical club girl. Which made it harder for me to enter sex talk with. I actually, in all honesty felt a little stuck. Like I had no idea about what to talk about, and had even less ideas about how to enter sex talk. Then I suddenly remembered the power of the good old underestimate technique of doing assumptions –assuming things about her and make her respond. This is good because you can either assume something right about her. And in this case she gets really excited. Or you can assume something wrong about her and she might tell you the truth about herself in return – ”correct your misunderstanding” – which is good because she then talks a about herself and opens up. The third option is that you state something wrong about her and she asks why you thought the following of her. This is awesome because it gives you a lot of room to play with. So what I do is use assumptions, and escalates the vibe with that. The way I do so is by starting with simple assumptions for then escalating to more dirty assumptions – ”I think you are a good girl that only likes soft sex…”

I did exactly this. I started by assuming innocent things in order to get the conversation to flow. The assumption I used was ”you seem to me like a really feminine women, a typical “girly girl” type of woman”. This, according to her was true and she told me she was really feminine. I abused her response a little. Here is a reconstruction of the conversation. . I do my best to bring the most important aspects in my reconstructions. In all honesty, I do believe they cover the most important aspects. Things like “hey want a gum?” are left outside. Of course, just to point it out, there are no ways I can remember every details of the conversations, but I do my best to make reconstruction that shows the most crucial points, illustrates the dynamic and the structure of my techniques.

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TVA: I really like feminine women. I think this makes a girl so hot. But there is an aspect of femininity that I find so sexy, that is highly underrated, and that most men look away from.
HBblond: and what is that?
TVA: the sexual aspect – a true woman is truly sexual. The submissive women who just wants to get fucked really hard, who wants to feel so attractive that men are losing control over them.
Hbblond: yeah most men fail to see that side. Usually they believe all we want is love and affection, which we do like. But we also want more.
TVA: And that is exactly why men fails to see this side of women. That is because women hide this side because they get so much judged for it!
Hbblond: So true!
TVA: and… that is why, as a result of being judged, they act non-sexual public. No women want to be judged for being sexual. It then becomes a vicious circle, as men perceive women as non-sexual beings.
Hbblond: I agree… but it seems to me like most guys perceives women who are open and being too sexual as sluts and girl not worth respecting.


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The reactions seemed very positive. So I decided to go a little deeper. The girl reacted well to my sex talk. But it was like something was holding her back. Even thought she agreed with me and seemed to play along, I felt she was restricting herself. As it seems, it looks like I am over gaming her. But… really I wasn’t. The last signs of release I was looking for didn’t come up (if they did – I would have extracted immediately). In facts she seemed a little stuck!

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TVA:I believe… that exactly this is very harmful – because it makes women hide a side of them that is truly feminine! Let me ask you something…
Hbblond: Yes what?
TVA: consider that you are in a room, which would remind us of a different world. In this room, the rules are different, in fact in this one room, everybody is sexually liberated – which means that nobody will judge you for being your true sexual self –you feel that you can just let go lose and open yourself up… releasing yourself, you inner sexuality. As you release yourself, you feel that everybody else respects you for your honesty, for the sexual energy you are liberating…. How would you feel about it?
Hbblond: good of course!
TVA: would you feel feminine?
Hbblond: Yes, I would
TVA: in this situation, would you behave in a sexually open manner?
Hbblond: yes of course! But the problem is that this world isn’t a r
eality.

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Just for instance. What I did describe to her in this little ”routine” was ”the secret society”. It is very interesting how women react to this kind of stuff. They usually respond very positively to anything that is secret society a like.

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TVA: well, maybe not, but there are some guys who can make you feel like you are in this world – they do exist… trust me about this. The reasons I am asking you about the following is because you seem like a very good girl, who went to Sunday school when you were younger and wants to save your virginity for the perfect man!
HBblond: haha, no I am not. But I am a good girl (with a flirty look). I am waiting for the perfect guy (while laughing)…. BUT! I can be very bad!
TVA: I am sure you can, you can’t fool! Yeah you are looking for that guy who will buy you flowers, make you feel like you had a golden pussy, without truly understanding what a pussy is – something that needs to be fucked really hard… and licked – which you will experience with a man outside of your relationship.
Hbblond: hahaha! Yeah! Haha!
TVA: Same old story! I simply love it. “Good girl in the living room, bad girl in the bed room… “ - Yeah that’s the way I like it.


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She talked to her gay friend a little. They decided to head to another gay bar nearby (5 minutes of walking. It was still 2 o clock (clubs closes at 3-3.30), so I decided to come along, as it seemed like I had a good lead. I told them that since they made me lose my friend (sparxx) I had no other choices than to leave with them. So we left. On the way, she grabbed my hand, but she was also holding her gay friend’s hand – which annoyed me because it removed the power of handholding. Arriving at the other club, it turns out my stay wasn’t going to be long. I stayed there for about 20 minutes.

The gay guy quickly found a mate. So we didn’t see him much for the rest of the night. Which is a very good thing as it allows me to proceed with my girl in private. So now, it is all about her and me. I wanted to seal the deal and extract. So I took her hand and dragged her into a corner. I cut the spaces between our faces and us where facing each other. I escalate by touching and enjoying multiple parts of her body (but nothing too intimate). Making the escalation mutual is key, so I made her touch my body as well. We were talking and flirting.

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TVA: such a sweet little girl, such a good girl!
Hbblond: I am! The sweet little innocent girl!
TVA: (sexual voice whispering in her ear) oh really?
Hbblond: I can be bad too!
TVA: I guess you can! I think you are such a freak on the inside!


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I tried to go for the kiss. But each time I moved closer to her lips she turned her head away. I was a little confused. This girl seemed indeed into me, but it was like she was holding herself back a little. But after some persistence, I finally managed to kiss her. The way I persisted was to take some distance from her when she resisted, for then re-engaging quickly afterwards. However on the next attempts I escalated more intensely: more intense sexual, and longer lasting eye contact. As a result of holding the eye contact, she looked down like submissive little girl. I made her touch my belly. Suddenly I started sucking her ear and licking her neck while grabbing her neck in dominant way. This makes women horny as fuck. I then went in for the kiss. A little resistance occurred but I persisted a little. When our lips met… she went all crazy over me. She started kissing me like if she had never kissed a man before. She was so passionate about it. She tongued me down, while biting my lips. It was hot. She also started to put her hand under my t-shirt, touching my belly beneath my shirt. I did the same on her by putting my hands inside her dress and grabbed her ass… and pulled her hair while sucking on her neck even more. The bathroom was nearby, but it wasn’t an option. The line was huge. I had no chance to do a bathroom pull– get to her place (not to mine as I live with my girl and I haven’t planned any threesome) seemed like the only reliable option.

So I grab her hand and lead her out. She follows but stops. She was wondering where her gay friend was. This got quickly solves when saw him kissing a dude. She went up to him and it seemed like he found a mate for the night. She was all mine.

Outside, I ask her if she is from Oslo (the city were the is occurring). She apparently is. I then ask her where she lives. She apparently lived far away. That sucks. But she also said she was living with her boyfriend. At the minute she said it, I could feel she felt really guilty. I took her hand and looked at her in the eyes.

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TVA: don’t feel guilty my dear. It is in your nature. You love him, I am sure about it. But like any other human being you seek joy and excitement. Men with the purpose of controlling have invented the ideal of monogamy… YOU… yes you women!
Hbblond: really!
TVA: It is just an ideal! In public we act good, part of it, but in secret, we do what we want, we are free! Oh to make you feel better… I completely understand you. I am in the same situation as you.
Hbblond: really?
TVA: as a matter of fact I also live with my girlfriend! In facts she has called me 6 times now.
HBblond: really oh my god, we are so bad!
TVA: yes we are, that is what makes it so exciting. As long as it remains a secret, nobody gets hurt. I am sure you will love him no matter what.
HBblond: Yeah I love him but the relationship is getting so boring!
TVA: I feel you! You love your boyfriend, but you seek pleasure. This is completely natural! And again, as it is a secret is becomes even more exciting! When we get home to our partners, it would be like nothing happened! But the problem is… it seems like we can’t go to my place, or to yours.
Hbblond: yeah, that is not possible.
TVA: but I am sure you would like to hang around a little more, we have had such a good time together. We can’t leave this amazing experience like this!
Hbblond: no we can’t! This has been a good night! But I can’t come home to late.
TVA: Me neither…. So why don’t we… check in at hotel X (nearby) and grab a drink. Get to know each other and take it from there. However, it is important that we remain really low-key. We can’t awake any suspicions. Let’s first of all get away from here.
Hbblond: yeah! Ok!


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It is now 02.30 (as “still not too late”). I dragged her away. I told her that we were a perfect match because we both understood each other and had similar needs (not true, I have fb’s…) and that as we are in a similar situation, we will both remain low-key about anything that would happen between us – I will be low-key as I have a girlfriend and dislike unnecessary drama. She will be low-key because she has a boyfriend. I think this appeased a lot of her resistance. I also told her that we couldn’t be late, as we can’t awake any suspicions – things had to be out little dirty secret. I dragged her to the hotel, which was really nearby. We check in and share the fees. Hotels are expensive. Especially when we were just staying there for about an hour. The only awkward moment was when the receptionist asked us ”under which name sir?” ”mr and/or mrs?”.

Entering the hotel room, we went to bed and took something from the mini-bar – red wine, of course as I love that stuff. In bed we drank while spooning and holding around each other while kissing in between. We undressed before going to bed; she had her bra and panties on. I was in boxer. After drinking a little, we both looked at each other and started kissing passionately. She was still wearing her brat, but she rather quickly took them off. I then sucked on her neck, licked her boobies and licked my way slowly down to her panties, licking around the borders of her panties. I was afraid of getting resistance (due to the situation) so I played it careful. After teasing her a little I went up and kissed her. Took of my boxer and put her hand on my dick. Women have fewer problems when it comes to touch a dick, however when it comes to you touching her pussy, last minute resistance can occur. Therefore, make her touch your dick first in order to make her really horny; to make her break some physical boundaries so that touching (removing her panties) becomes more of a piece of cake. She starts jacking it. I told her she was so hot and made me so horny. She went down and sucked my dick (bad sucker for instance). I then pulled her around, locked her hands in dominant way – ”I am going to eat you up” I said…. And quickly went down to her pussy, took of her panties and licked her for a while. After that I pulled her over and took her from behind, lying on the bed, in a hard and dominant way while we were kissing passionately (she turned her head around in order to kiss me). I fucked her in dominant way, by for example grabbing her head – ”told you… you was a bad girl”.

Then I changed position…. In fact I did a missionary with her legs in my hands…. This allows me to not only to penetrate her deeply, but to appear dominant – she can now see my whole body working – doing the ruff ”in and out’s”. I did different version of this position (there is indeed a lot of flexibility with this position). I told her I was going to cum. ”Dirty girl you want some cum you want some cum?”. She moaned “yes”… and I came on her boobs.

We spooned for a little. She said this was the best experience she has had for a while. I told her that it was great in return. However she felt guilty. I talked her out of it (at least I tried to so). She also stated that she was afraid of the consequences – what if her boyfriend found out about it. I told that it wouldn’t happen, as we will both remain low-key about what just happened. I even mentioned, ”We are part of a secret society”. She was appeased. However… I am skeptical about how guilty she really felt, as she wanted to trade numbers and do this again soon. We shared numbers, but to not awake suspicions, she saved my number with a girl name and I saved her number with a guy name (Mathias actually) and agreed that I would only send her message under the pretext of being a female friend (”wanna go shopping?”) and her under a male friend of me.

She had to fix herself, as she had to take a buss at 04.10. I had to get home as well. So we both stormed out of the hotel and ran home.

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Note:

I know many here questions the morality of such things. But it is not as immoral as it might seem. In fact, when I have sex with another chick, I enjoy the presence of my girlfriend even more, as I won’t have any other girls in mind, since in these cases, I have satisfied my need for casual sex – ”spreading my genes”. This way I can truly love her. I don’t tell my girlfriend about encounters like this, but she is fully aware of them taking place – she is not dumb. She gets a little upsets, but emotionally she feels like she has a man who other women wants, a man that does what ever he wants. Relationships are paradoxes on this instance – women want a man that other women wants, but if the man is only her’s, he can never really show her that he is attractive in other women’s eyes. What my conclusion is… is that you should not cheat “emotionally” – love your girlfriend and nobody else (or else break up) but that is okey to cheat sexually, because that not only makes you enjoy the relationship even more, but toward your girlfriend, she will, emotionally, love it– but it should be noted: in a rather controversial way (as rationally she will think you are an asshole). Important to not, that intuitively, I still find dilemmas like this controversial, and I can’t say that this is 100% morally good to do, but it seems that there are more positive aspects than negative ones.

For the girl I fucked – what she did was completely moral. Men are the one who introduced monogamy as a moral rules, not women. Women have only used it for their own benefits, but never followed monogamy as a moral rule. In fact, most ethics hargued by feminists, are man made, from a masculine logic point of view – which I do agree with.

Bottom line – this was awesome. Whether it was worth the money (the hotel, the bottle of wine) remains another question. What is for sure is that I am broke right now (I am a student). But overall a good experience. My girlfriend gave me drama – ”you are such an asshole” – ”your cheating bastard” – but what is paradoxal is that the sex we have shortly after the drama tends to be 10 more passionate – at least from her side (mine as well… for that instance).

Guys…

Welcome to the secret society!

Hope you enjoyed the following.
Questions and Comments are welcome!

-Teevster

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:08 am 
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And this is why I can never get married... Good job on the lay though!


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:57 pm 
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apart from the insanely solid secret society routine (which i've never heard of), what really impresses me is how you managed to get her to " check into a hotel and grab a drink. Get to know each other and take it from there." That is exactly what I need to make sure happens. I'm living with my parents and I've never brought girls home because my younger sister's bed is separated from mine by a wall. All my f closes in this country have been in the girl's place. I've never done it in a public toilet (not too classy but i'm trying to find a suitably clean place).

The other alternative is to get a hotel for a night. I've tried to make it happen twice in the past week because its tourists but it just didnt happen--I couldnt get past the resistance of getting a hotel room together now after meeting her a couple of hours ago.

The way you described yourself doing it sounds insanely smooth-- do you have any advice!? I was thinking of prematurely getting a hotel room before going out to prevent dealing with the "lets get a hotel room together now part" but that'll be a waste of money without knowing i'd be able to pull a girl back to it on that night.

Thanks

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Your LR's are so long but very interesting. Keep posting :D


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Teevster, as you may have already surmised, you hold the distinct honor of being my favorite wily rapscallion in this entire community.

Sexual Prizing is the glue, and though I came to my own style without really knowing much about yours, we do very much of the same thing.

For the guys who are curious how stuff like this happens to guys like us, here it is:

1. Assume women are into hot sex with someone who won't judge them for it
2. Find a girl who looks at you like she's up for exactly that
3. Show her why you're the man for the job
4. Lead her to your penis

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