I just noticed that there is a difference in opening a set immediately when you enter a bar. For example the direct approach doesn't really feel right, because you have just enter and it seems unatural both to you and to the girl to go direct and the same goes for the indirect method asking them their opinion on something.

So does anyone has any good ideas for openers in this situation? By the way it is really important for me to solve his one out because sometimes i sarge alone and it would be great if i could start a set right from the get go.

What i find helps sometimes is to open a set of below average girls (don't even worry about trying to
impress them or how you come across, literally just talk any shit) - you're unlikely to get knocked
back completely and it will get you warmed up nicely, and raise value if you would otherwise just be
on your own - and hey you never know these girls may introduce you to a friend you like etc.

You're thinking too much. It's always right to open at any time, as long as it's a good opener :p

Can you give an example of this? I still haven't come across my AA so a more specific example would be really helpful...

Hi , having a good time ?

Hey,did you see the fight outside ?

I need your opinion on something.

I wanna have sex with you.


To be honest , new or not new , AA or no AA , all it comes down to is not WHAT you say but HOW you say it.
The way you talk makes you interesting or not interesting. If you talk right you can make the worst possible line into the best one ever but if you suck at talking the best story will sound as the lamest thing ever said.

The only real way to get better at it is to just go out and do it.You have to learn to enjoy yourself while you talk in order for others to enjoy you as well.


You know how in every school there's that one teacher that literally every student loves ? He's usually the one that also teaches the best courses. It's because they know how to talk.

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It only feels unnatural to you because you're not in state yet. If you had been sarging all night and already had some makeout closes, I guarantee you'd walk in to that next bar with confidence and start up a conversation with the first set you see like it was no problem.

In place of the opinion openers you can go with a more natural approach and do an assumptive/observational opener. Just walk up to the set, doesn't matter who or how many, and tell them: "It looks like you are really (bored, having a lot of fun, tired, out of control, etc.) over here." This is a good 'insert adjective here' type of opener because it is somewhat scripted, but all you have to do is fill in one word like a mad lib. And it will seem more genuine to them than a canned opener because you are clearly talking about them specifically.

You're also just making a statement and not having to ask a question or tell some convoluted story. Simply walk up and say the line and see how they respond. Some girls might smile and respond, and you take that as an ioi. Some might roll their eyes and turn away, then you just move on unphased. Then go up to the next set and say the same thing. Eventually someone will bite and you'll get locked into a set and can start your routine.

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