While I'm out at a bar I go out and smoke a cigarette. There's a guy who's peacocked to all hell talking to two girls and drinking his drink. I just sit down and drink mine and he asks me some question [which seems like he's trying to get social proof]. I felt annoyed because there was an agenda with his question that only benefited him and otherwise wasted my time. Also that it was set up so I'd look like a dick if I brushed him off. Advanced bullying.

I answer shortly. He makes some remark insinuating I'm having a bad day and for me to cheer up. Whatever if I talk maybe he'll go away. He starts talking about something rather mainstream while trying to put a new spin on it that the girls eat up still trying to pressure me into giving him credit and making it so if I don't I'm the ass hole.

It was irritating.

Other PUA's sometimes will never give a straight answer so they can always do something FABULOUS!!! to impress the girls. It's often flamboyantly obnoxious.

Then there's the naturals. Guys who just get girls and always have. They usually don't try to run some gimmick on you or pressure you into bullshit. They just talk and actually care but might say "Hey I'm about to get with this girl" when it comes down to it and go off. Which is okay, cause priorities.

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-Aceospades12

Sounds like that guy was using his curiosity as a frame to develop rapport and increase his social value. That's typical pua 101 shit. But I don't see how that's a problem, because he's also validating you by talking to you, making you look social proof. Especially if he is already macking on chicks, then you're connected with a guy who gets women, which makes you look better.

The only time that would be a problem is if he starts AMOGing you. You really only have three options, which is to either cock-block him, AMOG him back, or embrace the interaction and manipulate it to your benefit.

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Why not try pointing him out for what he is? "Oh, he is one of those beginner pick-up artists." Or be honest, "I like to smoke my cigarette in peace."

AMOG back, Cock-block, and embracing the interaction aren't the only options.
Recently I've been doing as the post below says. Just telling him to fuck off or saying something like "I'm not into your pick up artist bullshit, go away."

The other thing that irritates me about pua's is their inability to answer a straight question. Generally anytime I post a topic on this board some jackass decides he's got a better idea and offers vague advice and proves he's too brain damaged to give a straight answer. The response usually is far off topic, very preachy, and rather vague and useless.

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-Aceospades12

So you're not a pua yourself, and you apparently hate pua's, yet you come to a pua message board for advice and to berate pua's???

Btw, telling him to get bent is indeed AMOGing. It's basically just rejecting him and casting him out of your domain.

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Why do you start off with an insult dude? What was the point of that? Just to show you're an asshole?

I never said I hate PUA's. I don't consider myself one either. Why would I go on this board? Cause some people know what they're talking about and actually have decent advice to give. Though a lot of PUA's have their head up their ass and act like the hot bitchy popular girls in school. They do obnoxious teenage bullshit.

Never said they don't know how to get girls, just that a lot of times PUA's do some shit that's irritating when it's like "c'mon man! Why can't you just be cool about shit."

for example, you started off by insulting me directly [Personally i didn't insult anyone directly I just said SOME, not all, PUA's do this irritating ass bullshit].

Aren't you supposed to be good with social skills? And first impressions? My first impression of you isn't a very high one.

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-Aceospades12

"So you're not a pua yourself," Not an insult. An observation.

" and you apparently hate pua's," Not an insult. An observation.

"yet you come to a pua message board for advice and to berate pua's???" Not an insult. An observation.



Yea, I'm failing to see where I called you an asshole. Oh wait, you called me an asshole, that's right.

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I never said you called me an asshole.
But the start of your response was extremely condescending and assholish.
Do you really not see how what you said was negative and a dis? Or are you just trying to play more stupid games?

This is why people like you aren't fun to talk to.

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I'm not playing games now and I wasn't then. I think you just got insulted because you got called out. Not a big deal tho, we can move on.

As far as pua's being annoying, there are lots of annoying people. A certain percent of any category of people will be annoying. Ever encounter annoying people on other message boards? There are tons of them.

What about AFCs at the bar who do dumb shit. What about cocky naturals like jocks and AMOGs who do dumb shit? PUAs are just another category of men that are competing against you to get women. I think it's been noted how you feel about pua's, but I don't think going on a long tirade on a pua forum is going to get you very far.

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What's even more annoying is guys on here who have a completely set in stone opinion, and won't admit that your approach may work too, then a few months later they've changed completely.

I once posted saying that most of the time if you say "hi" to a girl and just talk they'll more than happily talk with you. One guy on here said to me something along the lines of "Why would a girl talk to you without a decent opener?" then when I answered because most people are inherently sociable he sent me a rather obnoxious pm saying I was a fake and had never slept with a girl in my life.

A few months later and this same guy (now a self proclaimed mpua) is ripping on people using opinion openers as out of touch.

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