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Hey guys,
I met this HB7 (HB8 for intelligence and style imo) who I used to know kind of
We saw each other on a irregular basis, knew each others names - that's it and was about 7-8 years ago.
I went to the store she was working at and after a while she asked me in amazement "Do we know each other" Me: "Yeah, blablablah..."
It was around closing-time and she asked me out on an instant coffee-date. We talked with each other for about 10 minutes and she asked ME for my cell. We continued talking, but I didn't really game her - some DHV stories, I performed the "torn-napkin" magic trick b/c she told me that she was a very rational kind of person yahdahya... some IOIs here and there (playing with her hair, maintained good eye contact, some laughs...)
In total we talked about for an hour, never went out of topics but I wasn't able to kino b/c of bad seating.
I left after about an hour b/c of a false time-constraint.
When we were about to leave she actually wanted to pay for the both of us, I just dropped my part of the bill into her purse. IdK whether it was a good or bad move. I just felt that way.
I first texted her the day after and opened with the "Stop!"
(she responded VERY slowly) She didn't respond after the initial 3-4 texts. She reinitiated two days later and asked me whether I'm at the annual art/music festival in our town and asked me for my landline. Gave it to her and she should just call me, what she did the same day.
She told me that she had to work at that time and asked me whether or not I would drop by - I kept things vague, kept things short and talked for about 8-10 minutes.
No texts for 3 days untill the festival.
On that day I went to the place she was working at and stayed for like 15 minutes, got a drink but we weren't able to talk etc. She suggested to talk on the phone some time later and wished me goodbye in a somewhat sad tone.
20 minutes after I went she texted me sort of: "Nice of you dropping by, too bad I have to stay, maybe next time.... "
I called her the day after (two days ago) around 9pm - she didn't pick up - texted her in return "Hey, hope you didn't have to work for too long and slept well. See you around, Love* XYZ"
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* : German: Love = Liebe Grüße in letters = colloquial way of ending a text/letter
Again, no response from her. Freeze out? Am I already in LJBF-land?
It is just annoying that she's so slow with her responses and I think I haven't built up enough rapport.
What to do now?
Hey mate, great stuff on the dates.
There only seems to be one rift in the community, that's the phone game topic. Some people say when you get flaked once, move on. Others are under the view that you just keep going until it's blatant she isn't going to come out, i.e. bf or direct comment - there is an art to this however.
You'll want to do as the previous poster mentioned, txt her once a week about social situations that reminded you of her. A good tip for txting that I learned from Mystery. A PUA is always the exception to the rule - this applies in phone game too!
If this girl is a girl of high value then you need to face the facts, she has been txt/called to come out a shit ton! You will not be the only guy that is txting her today. Talk about things that no AFC will txt her about. Another tip, never engage on the phone about logical conversations, you gotta trigger emotion, constantly. My view is, that if you perservere and txt/reply in ways that seem like you could really care less if you meet up or not, then you WILL get that date.
After a lack of response freeze it and try again.
As for your dates with her, Good stuff on the IOI's. Seriously though bro, after your third IOI, that's IT! Start the Kino.. however small it is fucking do it! I dont give a shit if she's behind a glass wall you figure out how to do it. If you get to 7+ IOI's and haven't started kino - shit gets tougher. Brush up on a few kino routines if you have too. It's not too late, but next time you see her, if you don't start Kino immediately after her third IOI. You're headed to the friend zone, my friend.
I totally get your language love ending, as I went out with a Brazilian girl and she used to sign her txts with a similar word and xx's. Refer to breaking the normal and doing something different, my advice would be, don't do it.
Advancing through the game is not about what you say, but who is saying it. Bring on the mindframe that you are a man of high value with plenty of options. This should be the roots of the tree that your branches stem from, every txt will re-iterate how solid and grounded you are, as that person.
As for her paying I find that an interesting point, and I would like to hear others feedback on that. From my best experiences, you want to always be lightly joking about how she will be paying for you based on how lucky she is (not in those words), but in practise you were just joking and she can 'owe' you next time. Never pay for her until you've had sex and shes given her replication value to you, but I like your move, paying for yourself.
When you meet with her next. Focus on the micro calibrations and just go from there. It's going to matter about 5-10% what you say, and 90-95% how you micro-calibrate. When you tell a story, say something or do anything, look at how she reacts (unconsciously) if she smiles or maintains eye contact, or gives some form of IOI, respond with positive body language (an IOI back). These things are tiny and will only be picked up by her unconsciously. Always expose your neck, keep your shoulders back and smile at appropriate times, find the smallest things to smile about.
Remember a smile comes from your eyes, woman will pick up a 'faked' smile.
An example of micro-calibration. I took a female friend HB7 to the casino last night, with 2 other guy friends. After a small gamble I took them to the restaurant and ordered two bowls of fries and drinks to nibble on for us all (I had won). The HB is clearly attracted to me (as well as my friends) and had been giving me positive IOI's all night. After ordering and seating I noticed the babe had her legs crossed so the open side was facing me(she was sitting next to me). When I came back from the bathroom she had switched the side her legs were crossed to my other friend. So I physically told her to uncross her legs as it was badluck in the casino and we were here to win. She uncrossed them and unconsciously crossed them open-side to me 1 minute later. She was no focused on me and giving me other IOI's again. As soon as she started giving me positive body language back I faced her more with my body and spoke to her slightly more than my two friends.
If other people engage you and her in the set and she is focused on them when they are speaking, respond with negative body language and positive verbal communication, interject when possible and as soon as their attention is back on you, re-face them and micro-calibrate positively.
Others will no doubt join your set with her, make sure that you speak loudly and to everyone in the set with eye-contact going between them all. Give slightly more eye contact to the people who are unconsciously responding with negative body language to pull them back into your reality. Never lose one person in your set.
When you see her, order for her and take charge of her world.
PUA that shit homie, GL