hi,
i recently learned about the whole PUA community and its great...
and here is my problem:
there is this really cute girl (rating8), and we have been in the same class in highschool for 2years now. we graduated last year and since the beginning, i liked her a lot, but i was too AFC to start something, so i just slided into the friendszone. now, i found new motivation to do something about her. thing is, i think she is attracted to me, she gave me various IOIs when we went around together the other day, but i wasnt sure of myself, since we are friends....and she is so playful (by nature)
what should i do? what kind of approach do you think works best? i dont think directgame would go good, because 1. im not sure of myself in directgame 2. i dont wanna scare her off...indirect though, feels like this wont carry me any further.....

any comments are appreciated

getting out of the friend zone is like climbing mt. everest indeed. but it sounds to me like you have first an inner game problem. you're not sure of your direct game. well, firstly and foremost get sure. are you an AFC? probably. so am i. do you want to change that? absolutely. how do we do that? crash and burn. a lot. reset it in your mind that those possible IOI's you mentioned are definately IOI's. you said she might be interested? get it in your head that she IS. you think you might scare her off? ok, so? what if you do? you're no worse off than you are now, because right now you're not getting anything from her. if you scare her off you...aren't getting anything from her. so take the chance, find a good firm grip on your cojones, and make a move. but be sure about the move. don't hessitate. don't get caught up in your own insecurity. i'll refer you to the 3 second rule. my suggestion is next time you see her, walk right up to her look her in the eyes, cock your head to one side and kiss her. and not like a friend peck. be sure about it. show her you're sure and confidant and she'll be yours. when you're done kissing her, don't talk about it. pretend it never happened. get into the conversation your friends are having. shake up her usual perspective of "my friend DLG" into something unexpected. she'll be so busy wondering what's going on and off balance and focused on you that you have all kinds of open opportunity. and remember you're the prize. it's a priveledge for her to have your attention.

thanks for the advice. yeah i know i gotta be confident, no hesitation etc.
well i really dont think that i can just go up to her an give her a real tongue kiss. but i get wat you say. my idea was like, be cocky funny, and neg her (its more wat im comfortable with). and when i have a good time with her next time we meet, i somehow gotta kissclose, but im not sure how

EDIT: yeah i am an AFC, in a practical way. i dont have any sarging experience, but i educated myself on the theory and now im sort of getting into practicing my game and getting a new mindset(Dyd ebook)

of course it's up to you, but i still say you should kiss her. doesn't need to be tonsil hockey, but a solid mouth to mouth kiss. the problem you're in is that she's already a friend, so negs come off more as friendly ballbusting. her sense of value is not threatened by that, and it won't set her off balance, force her to qualify herself to you, or open the opportunity you need. you really need to shock her out of the norm to get her attention. and since it's been 2 years off norm, you need a big shock. again, i'm no expert, but playing this safe and casual i really don't think will work. but the fact you are friends a random kiss won't kill that if you find she really isn't interested. but if she is she'll be attracted to the fact you're willing to take chances, as well as take charge. remember if you lead with confidence, she will follow.

i certainly like the idea of kissing her, haha. and i know that in order to move out of the friendszone i gotta do something like that, but u know, i think i should kiss her only when she got warmed up. right in the beginning when i meet her, i think she would just be shocked and give me something like "YOU JERK %$§/$$§!!!" i want to make her attracted again and give me IOIs, and THEN kissclose her...btw, can anybody give me a tip on how to do that? im thinking about the "close ur eyes" way

thanks

One thing that you will have to realize is that if you do try and become more then just friends is that you might loose your friendship with her. This is totally up to you though, you need to sit down and think if that is worth the risk. I am not sure how your friendship is so I am just telling you now what might happen if you wanna continue.

If you do find out you would like to further to another stage with her you need to start showing some sort of sexual interest. I am not saying go out and start humping her leg. The thing with the friend zone is that most woman will slip into this and if she ever found you sexually attractive she slowly starts losing that as the friendship builds until she is totally comfortable with you.

Now if it were me and in a circumstance like this, personally I would try and work up the courage and just ask her what are the chances of having a relationship. You said she was giving you IOIs but you were not sure they were IOIs. I am not really sure if there is anything else then a direct approach, if you try and be indriect and "beat around the bush" she will not really notice and probley won't. Now you say you are not sure of a direct approach to her. I would like to ask why you are not sure? Is it you just don't have confidence?

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