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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:36 pm 
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Hey what's up guys.

I met this HB9 last friday. I was out with a friend just having a blast when this HB9 and her friend HB6 came up to us. I ignored her saying "Hey, I'm talking to my friend. Would you give us a moment?" like three times before I let her talk to me.

After that I just gave her a little bit of me for every 2 bits she gave me. We kissed a few times. The night ends with her and her ugly friend went home to me and my friends place. Did not fuck close because her friend started was really drunk, started crying and fled out the door. So we all had to go out and look for her (they were both 19 years old). After a while we found her and went back to our place. Then the ugly girl locked herself in our bathroom and bla bla big drama, then we pretty much just went to sleep all of us in seperate beds.

The day after I talked to her and her ugly friend for a bit, made them laugh and feel happy/comfortable, hugged them both, got the HB9s number and sent them home.

I believe the following text game killed the entire pickup: Or did it? This is what I need help with.

ME: Hey HB9! Wanna help me rob a bank?
HB9: Hey 10"! Yeah, why not?
ME: Awesome! You wanna drive or shoot?
HB9: I'm more of a shooter, so I wanna shoot.
ME: Seriously, I need an assistant! Hmm, how about you just drive and you let me do the shooting..
HB9: Ofcourse! As long as we split the money it's perfect!
ME: Not very likely. The shooter has to get more then the driver. You'll get 10%..
HB9: That depends on how much money we'll take.
ME: No sorry. I don't think you have what it takes..
HB9: Then I'll just haveto ask someone else!!!!!!
ME: I don't really feel a spark here. You're gonna haveto convince me.
HB9: Oh no what are you saying... haha
ME: Ok, wedding plans are now cancelled. Aliens are gonna kidnap all the sexy people. You'll be safe but I'm just writing to say good bye!
HB9: Good bye!

She waited almost a day to respond that last message, before that I waited a bit longer then she did before responding on her messages.

What do I follow up with now? She isn't investing shit in our conversation, not really going along with the role playing either. Just answering politely to what I write.

-Sueede


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:04 pm 
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She did go with the roleplay for a bit. I think if you have discussed other than who will be the driver and shooter and what to split it would have been better. Also, I seriously don't understand that alien shit here. I think you pushed her away too far. If it doesn't seem like a simple joke to me, then maybe it didn't to her either.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:25 pm 
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Yeah that alien shit was just random.. I wanted to try it out to tease/be funny. Guess it did not Work as planned. Any way to recover? Or just move on?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:47 pm 
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Well... I barely do text game because it's kind of useless to me. I mean. In text you can only use 10% of your whole communication. So that's why I really only fix dates when texting. I'd move on from this one, but if you really want to try to recover you can try something like this:

You won't believe what just happened to me...

Maybe she texts back, maybe she doesn't. If she does then keep the frame fun this time. :)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:31 am 
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Routines did not work for you here.

After "I'm more of a shooter, so I wanna shoot" I would have moved off the routine. "You like to be in control, huh? Not sure you're gonna get that when you're around me." [Subtle sexuality there, cold read, implies seeing you again in the future]
After that I would have gone straight into setting up a Day 2.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:56 am 
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Call her.

I liked the 10% for you hahah.


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I'm very new to this but I have done my research... What I believe you should have done was built more attraction while talking about the bank thing. Because your basically dragging out a boring ass story.. Maybe find a way to flirt with her while talking about the driver and shooter. Give her compliments, to many negs are not good! You had a few in a row at the bottom there. Just be sure when your texting someone that you put yourself In there position and see it from there point of view. For example if I am texting a chick and the first thing I say to her is "hey let's hangout" she is probably going to look at that message and close her phone because it seems desperate. Same goes for the other way around, if a girl messages me that same thing I would open my phone and be like wtf and close it (unless I was desperate and wanted to fuck really bad) which you should never come off as desperate anyway. Idk if any of that made sence but it does in my head...


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:57 am 
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seems to me you sort of were trying to overgame a bit man, comes off a tad approval seeking and needy, just need to calm yourself down and relax, every thing that she hears from you doesn't have to be emotionally stimulating or a routine of some sort, you know, just a routine here, a routine there, sprinkle of this, sprinkle of that, to keep her from getting bored, then more of an emphasis on moving towards some form of investment rather then just breaking rapport on her in every text you send, it is ok to just be normal and invite her out, tease her a bit here and there, say a nice or funny thing here or there, but every thing you say doesn't have to rip on her or be kissing her ass or comedic gold, just chill a bit

also actually listen to what the girl is saying and use her feedback for her to invest in you, she takes the bait into your role play and you keep breaking the rapport and working her out of the roleplay, might as well just further the roll play, you don't have to worry about dis-agreeing with her all the time and shit to keep the frame, as long as she is in the roll play you have set the frame, but is that what you want?, or is that just some shit you are doing because you are not sure of what you want, and all you are trying to accomplish is to impress her and find out what she wants?

if the girl is compliant and investing, don't break rapport, if she seems to be losing interest in the frame (things are getting too comfortable), or she is breaking rapport on you, then pull out some rapport breaks and you can tease her, but when she is compliant and buying into your frame, you should be rewarding rather then punishing, have her relate going along with what you want to her getting positive reinforcement rather then negative

examples

ME: Hey HB9! Wanna help me rob a bank?
HB9: Hey 10"! Yeah, why not?
ME: Awesome! You wanna drive or shoot?

here you baited her to comply, she hooked, then you qualified her, then you baited her again

that was a good example of you properly using positive reinforcement to get further investment from her

HB9: I'm more of a shooter, so I wanna shoot.
ME: Seriously, I need an assistant! Hmm, how about you just drive and you let me do the shooting..

here she takes the bait again, but this time you dis-qualified her and broke the rapport, no reason to do this

could have just re-qualified her, if you want you can dis-qualify after your qualifer just like mystery method

''Ohh you're one of those bad ass shooter girls, that's pretty hot, guess I better stay away from you''
~qualify~disqualify

or

''Ohh I see you're one of those adventurous girls, cool I like that''
~qualify

if you read through your text log you will notice the pattern, she complies, you punish, over and over you broke rapport, then she eventually just lost interest in investing into an interaction with you, there was just nothing in it for her to gain unless she felt like having a little frame war, but that was the thing, she was buying into your frame the whole time and compliant, no need to break rapport at all

anyways, it is not the big of a deal, try to use texting as more of a way to get meetups, then to build rapport, make your face time in person count, so she actually has some motivation to meet you, still stay in contact, and keep your self familiar with her, just don't use the phone as your primary avenue to build rapport, and don't contact girls out of neediness, contact them for a reason, use the phone just as a bridge to continue the interaction in person and maintain a level of investment (use common sense with this, you want her texting you, not the other way around, less is more, but nothing at all is too extreme, find a middleground), or you may find yourself stuck with a bunch of texting buddies that never want to hang out

GOOD LUCK


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:50 pm 
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Awesome responses! Especially Pumpington, but thank you all.

@Slip n Slide: I'll try something like that next time. Thanks

@Kcslic: Yeah, flirt some to spice it up a bit and not only breaking rapport. Actually made sense in my head aswell, we're special yay! :) But I would first investigate if the girl is interesting/hot enough before closing the phone.

@pumpington: Sick-ass response! Thanks a bunch. I was over gaming for real. You're right that I need to relax a bit more. I think sometimes that because I know all these routines/other material I need to use as many as I can in conversations for some kind of über attraction game, which I've realised is not very good, atleast not on my current level. Like a monkey with a lightsaber.

What you said about me trying to impress her and to find out what she wanted is probably right. I wasn't sure what I wanted from her because I was not completely confident about myself. I think of her as way out of my leauge. My inner game is a work in progress! :)

I get the examples and see the patterns now. I was just taking alot and not giving anything back basicly.

Alot to think about! Thanks all!

-Sueede


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:34 pm 
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nice post pumpington


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