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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:41 pm 
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I've been on POF for 3 days now, and have been messaged by a few women. The only problem is I have no idea what to say to them. To be honest if these chicks were guys they'd be pretty AFC.

"ahahaa your profile cracked me up!"

"your profile just made me DIE.
Where have you been all my life Mr.Right!"

"This is by far the fumiest profile I have read and I'am literally thinking, please
don't kill a baby seal because of me lol

Though I must check, are you being serious about the cooking, cleaning, messy eater
etc? Because I also require someone to cook and clean for me ha ha"

"Funny profile. What you do in uni? "

"don't kill a baby seal :( lol x"

"Hi im Frank, can't wait for our date with baby seals ;) lmfao"

These girls aren't perfect 10's or anything but to be honest I think girls above 8 just sit back and lap up the attention. The highest here is a 7 and she is the one who asked about university.

So guys come up with some interesting replies and I'll use the best ones then post the results.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:49 pm 
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I have dealt with this exact issue a lot.

Here is my Suggestion. Handle her emailing you first, and your reply as if you are on your second email. The second email is where I saw some funny shit about their profile, and then add some qualification for them to live up to. I also voice a concern about them to DHV but I make it lighthearted and humorous, and I point out what makes their profile attractive to my high standards.

Ill add one more email after the next reply to edify the connection then plan the date.

On a normal online interaction I have 3 email exchanges, if a girl emails me first it is usually just 2. I calibrate this depending on their interest level. However I dont change the content of my normal online game based on who emails first.

I do however get a 25-35% better F-close rate on girls that email me first.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:50 pm 
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oh i just saw you were more interested in content then logistics. I didn't really address that specifically here. If you have an example of your normal email game i can critique it.


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Cool man I'd appreciate that. Logistics is cool also I'll take whatever advice really. I've just come out of a 2 month relationship after hooking up online so I need refreshers.

Earlier parts of the conversation are missing I think POF sort of deletes as it goes over a certain amount of message LAME.

She messaged me first saying 'I like kicking puppies too' relating to my profile. I said WOW we should totally get married then I said but we'll end up arguing blah blah now I want a divorce coz she's cheating on my with pablo the pool boy (just being random as I can) and then we get to this point.


Her
Yes but I'm the one who was paying for the pool boy to begin with. Employer's perks and all that :)


Her3/28/2012 1:22:58 AM
Well then you definitely check off my goals and aspirations part!
Seems to good to be true... what's the catch?

(I have this in my profile "2. Talk about your goals/aspirations – finding a rich woman to take care of me"

Her3/28/2012 1:29:40 AM
I expect to be fed peeled grapes every lunch time.


Her3/28/2012 1:33:38 AM
MmMmMmMm... sounds good. Every lunchtime will get a bit repetitive. Chuck in some strawberry's and Ferrerro roche's too ;)

I'm not that easy though. What's in it for me?

Me3/28/2012 1:36:32 AM
You get the puppies. Fair is fair.


Her3/28/2012 1:37:16 AM
Oh and I don't like strawberries. Deal breaker?


Me3/28/2012 1:46:39 AM
It is I'm afraid. I can never talk to you ever again. I had my
heart set on someone who loves strawberries. I'll just have to
feed them to the seals, which I'll be fighting over custody for. I
can't let them go to somebody like that. It's just not fair on
them.

Her3/28/2012 7:45:33 AM
Are you going to report me to the rspca for it?


Me3/28/2012 8:39:39 AM
Yes, so send me your name, address postcode and phone number so
they can contact you.
While you're at it write down your bank account details!
(indirectly asking for her number but she didn't bite lol)


Her3/28/2012 10:09:00 AM
Do you want my card security number as well? ;)


Have no idea what to say now.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:12 pm 
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dude your game is pretty textbook, but pretty good given that.

She is clearing interested in you, that pool boy comment is game on, she just introduced the sexual frame, i love it when they do that first, its as close as a slam dunk as you can get. Don't over-game her, you dont need any more rapport.

Arrange a date at night, suggesting the night, tell her to dress cute. I will be very surprised if she isn't down to meet you with very little shit testing, and likely dtf soon after. Thats an "A" prospect


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I play it a bit different.

If a girl messages you, you just have to decide if you like what you see and dont fuck it up. I've had a 90%+ rate of f-closing girls who message me and I think are hot.

I assume a few things, 1) they are HB7-8 higher than that they are unlikely to message guys. 2) they clearly attracted/interested (half the battle online) 3) going to carry on the conversation long enough to number close 4) they are often just looking for sex from the website.

These are almost always the case for me. I generally make them wait a day or two between messages (yours are all same day) and I send slightly longer ones. If she keeps responding quick and is interested. Drop the conversation for a day and then push for in person meeting because your "not really into being pen pal thing" .

Any "attraction" or rapport you build online is irrelevant once you meet, your back to square one. The online game has only three goals 1) get a in person meeting 2) get background info on her so the meeting goes well and 3) begin playing into your frame.


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I play it a bit different.

If a girl messages you, you just have to decide if you like what you see and dont fuck it up. I've had a 90%+ rate of f-closing girls who message me and I think are hot.

I assume a few things, 1) they are HB7-8 higher than that they are unlikely to message guys. 2) they clearly attracted/interested (half the battle online) 3) going to carry on the conversation long enough to number close 4) they are often just looking for sex from the website.

These are almost always the case for me. I generally make them wait a day or two between messages (yours are all same day) and I send slightly longer ones. If she keeps responding quick and is interested. Drop the conversation for a day and then push for in person meeting because your "not really into being pen pal thing" .

Any "attraction" or rapport you build online is irrelevant once you meet, your back to square one. The online game has only three goals 1) get a in person meeting 2) get background info on her so the meeting goes well and 3) begin playing into your frame.


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I don't agree about 1 message per day. I've found that to be a good way to make them lose interest. Online is so fast paced in general, you need to keep her interested. Initially you want to build up her attraction and attachment to you. If she replies straight away, she's keen and you need to keep her that way rather than let her forget about you.

If you're only messaging her once a day, she's thinking about you once a day. AFTER you've hooked her, then start making her miss you by leaving longer gaps than she expects.

My advice: Match her response times. If she responds within minutes, reply right away. If she sends one message a day, reply in a similar manner. Once she does like you and seems keen, then you can start making her wonder where you went.

A good tactic is pattern breaking. With one girl, day 1 we had about 6-7 messages very quickly. Both of us were replying in 10 mins. I didn't reply for about 4 hours because I was out. As soon as I did, she replied. Even more keenly.

It's a time investment game. Any time she's: reading your messages, writing you a reply, thinking about you is all time she's invested in you. Which works in your favour. And it's all cumulative. The longer she's thinking about you in the same period, the better. As such, longer messages can be fantastic once she's receptive to them.

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Any "attraction" or rapport you build online is irrelevant once you meet, your back to square one. The online game has only three goals 1) get a in person meeting 2) get background info on her so the meeting goes well and 3) begin playing into your frame.
I disagree with this entirely. Examples:

Girl A) 18y/o HB9 (maybe even 10) Lived a bit of a distance away so wasn't practical to meet immediately. Messaged her a lot for 2 weeks. First time we met, she hugged me the second she saw me, we kissed within 20 minutes. F-close on 2nd date. Definitely didn't go back to square one when I met her!

Girl B) 18y/o HB8 Messaged quite a lot for four days. 10-20 medium length messages in total. Met up with her for a coffee, she invited me back to hers to "watch a film". F-closed having spent about 3 hours with her in person. Guarantee that wouldn't have happened if we'd only exchanged 3 messages online.

Perhaps it's an age thing, but the younger girls seem happy for connection building to happen online and then to meet up for the phsyical stuff.


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I think you both have good points and none of witch contradicts the advice I gave the guy initially. I do however agree with the last poster that you dont have to start at "square one" with online chicks after the email. Half my work is already done for me and I just have to follow through being consistent with my profile and convo, and entertaining them into bed when the date occurs.


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I disagree with this entirely. Examples:

Girl A) 18y/o HB9 (maybe even 10) Lived a bit of a distance away so wasn't practical to meet immediately. Messaged her a lot for 2 weeks. First time we met, she hugged me the second she saw me, we kissed within 20 minutes. F-close on 2nd date. Definitely didn't go back to square one when I met her!

Girl B) 18y/o HB8 Messaged quite a lot for four days. 10-20 medium length messages in total. Met up with her for a coffee, she invited me back to hers to "watch a film". F-closed having spent about 3 hours with her in person. Guarantee that wouldn't have happened if we'd only exchanged 3 messages online.

Perhaps it's an age thing, but the younger girls seem happy for connection building to happen online and then to meet up for the phsyical stuff.
I think this might be a good distinction as it could defiantly be an age thing (I generally go for 21-27.) Personally I have always avoided sending a lot of messages(10-20 over 4 days) cuz i see it as a low value behaviour (living on ones computer) but I think your right and this is advantageous/necessary with younger girls.

With older gals, I had a lot of success with longer, less frequent messages and number closing in 3-4 messages total. F-closing sometimes on the first but then almost always on the second date.


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I think this might be a good distinction as it could defiantly be an age thing (I generally go for 21-27.) Personally I have always avoided sending a lot of messages(10-20 over 4 days) cuz i see it as a low value behaviour (living on ones computer) but I think your right and this is advantageous/necessary with younger girls.

With older gals, I had a lot of success with longer, less frequent messages and number closing in 3-4 messages total. F-closing sometimes on the first but then almost always on the second date.
All valid points

Ive had way more success moderating my responses, to one a day rather then getting into an online, text type back and forth. I agree it sets a bad precedent as you seem overly responsive to here, and despite the content of your fast responses it sets the mega-frame of buying into her needs.

I tried fast responses for a week and had determinedly worse results until I went back to my one email a day rule. The girls just tended to drop off.


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I have dealt with this exact issue a lot.

Here is my Suggestion. Handle her emailing you first, and your reply as if you are on your second email. The second email is where I saw some funny shit about their profile, and then add some qualification for them to live up to. I also voice a concern about them to DHV but I make it lighthearted and humorous, and I point out what makes their profile attractive to my high standards.

Ill add one more email after the next reply to edify the connection then plan the date.

On a normal online interaction I have 3 email exchanges, if a girl emails me first it is usually just 2. I calibrate this depending on their interest level. However I dont change the content of my normal online game based on who emails first.

I do however get a 25-35% better F-close rate on girls that email me first.
Do you qualify in general or based off their profile? Do you have an example?


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