So I was gaming this HB10 on POF last night, and I've stalled out a bit. I wanted to get some ideas before I go on the offensive lol. I can't manage to number close. Any suggestions would be great. I really want this girl.

Me: Hey I would remove that picture from your profile.

HB10: lol and why is that?

Me: Lol I hope you can take a joke. I thought you were adorable and had a great personality, so I just had
to say hi.
I'm x

HB10: lol I definitely can I love people with a sense of humor! and well hello x!.... Im x

Me: Well it's nice to meet you, x! I'm glad you have a sense of humor, because you'd hate me if you didn't haha
So I noticed that you have three dogs...what kinds do you have?


HB10: I have 2 **** dogs (pomeranians) and a husky

HB10: Oh how cute! I'm a dog lover. I've got a year old English cream golden retriever. Shes definitely got me wrapped around her paw haha.
So, x, are you the adventurous type?

HB10: I loooooovvvveeee dogs! growing up I had 6 ... and my husky is a rescue dog and I most definitely am!

Me: Well you're definitely gaining brownie points for being a dog lover and adventurous haha you should text me at (XXX)XXX-XXXX

HB10: not to sound mean at all but I just just text anyone without being sure they wont blow up my phone.

Me: Haha don't worry I understand and completely respect that. For what its worth I swear on my life and the lives of my future children that I won't blow up your phone hahaha :p
We can get to know each other over this if you'd prefer that.

HB10: lol I just get ppl who text an call 24/7 and it get annoying you know

Me: I guess I shouldn't worry about you blowing up mine, cause I kinda was hahaha
Yeah I know exactly what you mean. I've given my number to a few people that just won't leave me alone.
So what is one thing that hardly anyone knows about you, x?

Me (after no response): Btw...thanks for helping me win a bet with my buddy. (there is no bet)

HB10: lmao the one if i was fake or not?! haha

Me: Haha are you suggesting you are? lmao
Nah this is a different bet between my really good friend and me. I mean I don't really know you, so give me a good reason why I should tell you what it is.

HB10: lmao no someone asked me if I was fake and said he was making a bet with his buddy. definitely not fake.
and you should tell me just cuz its me duhh


Me: Haha thats pretty funny. Lmao

Hmm...I don't know. You do seem pretty awesome, but this is my really good friend and the bet is a secret.
Here is the deal. If you take a leap of faith that I won't blow up your phone, text me, and I will tell you the bet. Its good. Trust me

Here is my number again. You said you were adventurous, x, so prove it
(XXX)XXX-XXXX.

Ideas, gentlemen?

When she said she was adventurous...instead of asking for her number or telling her to text you....you should have carried the convo farther...

"Well what's the most adventurous thing you've done?"

something stupid like that....making her open up more will most likely make her comfort levels build up...then you could have had a real conversation instead of going back and forth as to why she should text you..

And towards the end...It just seems like you're kinda desperate to get her to text you...but then again, who knows...she might text you..good luck

Thanks for the advice. I definitely agree with what you're saying. How should I reopen her? Do you like telling her what the "bet" is? I can come up with something creative, or should I maybe go with something like "did you know that 93% of girls masturbate in the shower?" lol

I personally wouldn't have told her there was any type of bet going on..

You pretty much gave her the ball.....You told her if she's as adventurous as she says, she'll text you....

Shes most likely not going to text you...If shes an HB10 as you say she is..she has so many guys giving her their number and telling her to text/call them...So it'd help if you came up with something different than telling her your conversation was based on a bet..She's got you getting ready to chase her now....instead of the other way around....You can give it a few days/week...if you don't hear from her...maybe try to reopen her.....I hope it works for you, but I feel like you kinda blew it

Good points. I know that the odds of her texting me are slim to none. I agree that I need to reverse who's chasing who. If I give it a few days, do you have any ideas of how to reopen? I honestly haven't reopened any HB10s on pof before haha. I know I'm trailing by a touchdown with only a few ticks on the clock, so to speak, but I feel like there is a still a shot to get into the end zone haha. I just want to come out firing, because I know I only have one chance.

Thanks for your advice, motownsoul, I appreciate it.

Well I just saw she deleted her pof account. I guess there goes that one haha. Thanks for the help anyway motown

there's no chance she's a 10 unless u're really fit ...

Way too many emoticons mate, and too friendly and 'nice' in the convo. You want to be a cold hard man with a sense of humor, not the nice funny guy whos friends with her mum. I think you may have had a chance here, the convo lasted ok considering shes a 10. Mark it down for experience.
Also, many guys on here swear by that pic opener. Im not so sure myself, will have to try it out a few more times.

Haha yeah I guess I am, and she was definitely at least a 9.5. lol

Hey Max DHV, Thank you for the advice. It was definitely a good learning experience. As far as the pic opener, I really like it, but it definitely is not perfect. It does have a phenomenal reply rate after the first message (80% or so), but after that it can be dicey. If the HB does not reply to my second message, I usually reopen them with something like "Gosh, I guess you were born without a sense of humor. I genuinely feel sorry for you. Life must get really boring." I have had a good deal of success following up with that.

Give it a try and let me know how you fair using it.

Wait five days. If there is no reply reopen with this.

Title: Serious question

Message: So let's say I haven't eaten all day (for one reason or another you're taking me to dinner). I'm starving and you're just getting home from the gym. You're all sweaty and have to take a shower and get ready to go out. How long would it take you.

A) 30 minutes and you look so hot! I can't take my hands off you.

B) 15 minutes and you look cute

C) Two hours and I die of hunger

I didn't come up with this... it's something I got off a pus video on YouTube. But I've been sending it out on Pof with an amazing return. It really works. It also gets the girls qualifying to you along with opening themselves up to negs. I try to add points into my Pof messages too. Saying something like "that's badass! 10 points" then if she needs a negative ill say something like "hmmmm... blah blah blah. Minus 10 points". I also set a prize for being good. Like " you don't get my number till you reach 50 points". It keeps them chasing you and qualifying themselves.

LOL as I typed that reply I got another Pof update. (3rd one in the past hour)

HB8: Hahaha! WOW! I've never been asked that. I'd say 30 minutes.

Me: That might work. Although you could bring me a snack on your way home. Remember I am starving. ;p

I'll tell you what, I'll give you ten points. But you better look damn good!!!!

The first thing that popped into my head when reading the first post was the overall "desperation" feel of it.

A few things I figure when I come across a woman online that has hot photos of herself:

1) She posted hot photos, so she gets off on the compliments. NOT necessarily meeting someone.
2) Every guy and his brother is telling her she's hot, one way or another.
3) Telling her she's hot will stroke her ego, but do me ZERO chance of securing a date, unless I'm like a chiseled work of art of a guy, which I am not.

So the first things I do would be to shift the convo away from the looks and actually make good looks out to be a threat that makes me question her value instead of me trying to prove my value to a hot chick.

This might sound familiar, because you've heard it all before in the typical neg game. Have to pic ones based upon the pic:

"I just had to ask, is that skirt in your pic some new trend? I swear my sister has that same one."

"Do you color your hair?"

"Looks like you're a little off balance in those heels! I mean, it's crazy what ladies will do for fashion."

I'll usually do anything but talk up her looks in the beginning. If she seems to respond with some degree of intelligence, I might say, "Surprised to hear some intelligent chat. Usually women I've dated who are a little better looking have been quite shallow."

In any case, all of those things push her to qualify herself, or live up to a different standard.

If she gets all pissy, I move on. End the chat with something like:

"heh, well, this is no real surprise."

and then close the chat. It's either she's not worth the trouble, or she'll be back at some point trying to figure out what she did to seem so undesirable.

--Aeron

I disagree. It's not the emoticons, it's the overall lack of "digging deeper" if that makes sense....he continues to scratch at the surface...likely because he asks too many random "opening" questions. Ask one question, and then continue to follow it up until it runs dry. Then move on to something else.

If this were real life and you asked someone if they were adventurous and they said yes, would you follow that up with "that's good, here's my number"? No. I feel like you'd ask more questions..."how so?" or "that's a bold statement... " etc.

Dig deep. Get to know the girl. Act like you actually care about them. Girls love talking about themselves, you just gotta crack the dam and the floodgates will open.