Consider taking responsibilities for your own emotional imbalances. All I've been doing is pointing out your own contradictions.

I've never been so torn between locking a thread and grabbing some popped corn...

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-DJ_Z

You're actually considering locking my thread over 1-3 individuals that can't seem to stop trashing it? I don't go to there threads and talk shit. All I have ever done is defend attacks. This Thread is large because My advice is sound, regardless of what the haters think. I am affecting people in a positive way. If you don't believe me ask them yourself. If you want to be productive in stopping the BS. Perhaps you could ask the people who are initiating it to stop.

Problem solved. It's the most logical solution. I have said over and over that I am not here to fight or argue. This negative energy isn't good for anyone.



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Give a life lesson to kasabi,answer his question! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!Show him who` s the boss.....but if u dont you ll loose all of ur bullness

I'm not really here to give people instruction on how forum etiquette works but since your up for instructing me on my job hows about I give you a tip.....just the tip....


Forum Etiquette Rule number one....don't feed the troll...want them to go away, stop reacting.

the only thing I see here is banter back and forth but being an internet forum we're somewhat self policed and people challenging others is how we keep the KJ's out.

If you have something to prove, be a man, whip it out, lay it on the table and measure. Otherwise stop acting like a baby and ignore it.


Cheers

Vitamin-J

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"J, I guess yer so amazing in bed you send the girls into a transcendent state where they realize their own mortality and are shaken by the realization that their presence bears little impact on the universe, or they just realized they hate you"
-DJ_Z

I find that SA is one of the first guys on here who I can relate to. There are some simple reasons. I have in the past been naturally good with as I grew up with a lot of girls around me as friends and people who I could develop my sexuality with. But puberty and a few negative experiences turned me from being a pimp at the age of 13 into an ideot who dated a girl for 3 years he was not even attracted to. Than a failed relationship with mega ontits brought me to Pua. I have read a lot of material and picked up bits and pieces over the two years I have been doing this. But I have found that this mega analytical and structured game that some one here promot just does not work for me. SA911s advice fits totaly into my style. And there is one simple factor that everyone seams to overlook that he says he has got and I know I do as well. But many on here do not! Good looks! If you are a good looking guy toucan just look a girl straight in the eye and most will smile at you or you can just circle the club and girls will notice you. So I believe that SA club game works for him and does for me.

That means that you had about 1 women a week (0.9) assuming you lost your virginity at the day you turned 17. seems fishy, sry but i does.

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- "Give me ten minutes to talk away my ugly face and I will bed the Queen of France" - Voltaire

Im from Sweden so sorry for any grammar or spelling misstakes.

I have use the method in the past and it works , it makes her interested in you. It's a subtle indirect way ( a way that I hate ) to make her approach you or make her give you an approach invitation. He is speaking the truth.

Dear forum admin guy. Sometimes ignoring a troll emboldens them to be more and more offensive until they get a reaction. It is not always possible to ignore someone who is consistently insulting u in a bar. Your advice is good, but I have to say it is easy to say, but much harder to practice. Defending oneself is only reasonable. How one does it may be open to question.

Sometimes if someone insults u. It creates social proof for others to join the bandwagon. Mud sticks, so it is better to clear ones name immediately. Litigation happens all the time. If Sex Addict was a Company it would be in his interest to defend himself. The attacks have been numerous and been done by strong willed individuals they are not ones that can easily be ignored. There are plenty on this forum which are in competition with sex addict as the “giver of wisdom”.

I repeat your advice is good, but it s not always effective. I have usually found that those who say to ignore insults can rarely provide evidence of when they have ignored similar attacks on themselves.

I am not fan boy. I have empathy for Sex Addict as I was receiver of a hate campaign myself.

Sex Addict’s style of defending himself, is a bit different to mine, so it is interesting to see how I can learn to deal with criticism in future.

Sex addict has been called a liar. That to me is a big personal insult. Anyone can criticize his advice that is not an issue.

I do not wish anyone to be banned. As the detractors do add value to this thread by making it entertaining. Sex Addict is strong enough to defend himself.

Fairness is the only thing we can all ask for.

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The Jackal an Introduction.
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The Field Reports.
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The Lay Reports.
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2 minutes is not enough time, it has to be a whole night, if night game... But good idea..

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Dancefloor/Club game youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/dancefloorseduction

One of the most important skills in life, pick up, relationships, business etc... is the ability of somebody to get along with other people... Which by the way sex addict has displayed other people high jacking the post have not...here:


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Surely you're kidding . . .
Where in the World do you think ^this would be well received? Do you really believe that ^this is a 'people skill'?


^This is a business skill? He followed ^this up with ramblings that hardly made sense. When challenged, instead of offering anything of substance, he threw back childish rants and taunts. You could put all of the highlights of this thread without any commentary from me and create a self mocking comedy routine. Not sure if you've ever done any hiring in your life but this particular candidate is a poor choice.

Here is a better demonstration of 'people skills':

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I was just as straight forward and critical (if not more) of Ryan's initial post as I was with the addict in my initial reply. You're making judgements with your emotions, not with logic.

Yes, but not in the way the OP has outlined. I wrote a post/field report on this topic a while ago but it still goes back to the idea of 'equalization of power'. If you recall the times you did this and it worked, I assure you that there was a lot more going on than just ignoring a girl and then chatting with her about her shoes and hair style. For this to fly, the girl needs to perceive that she's missing out on something. If she's getting hit on by 3 other guys while you're chatting with her 3 fatty friends about shoes, she's not missing out on anything and will be more happy to unload her friends to you.

First off, you came to my thread as if you were the all mighty and whatever you said was the "written word" You critiqued my words as if I was a published author getting a written review from an established columnist. Not the way to approach someone new. Your original post may of ( to some) seemed like constructive critism, but to me it just seemed like hating. I addressed your words, and asked you politely if you had a problem with my advice to stop reading the thread. Then the insult came from you fast and furious.

Kasabi, I would of had no problems explaining anything i wrote or my theory's. It's not your questioning that is the issue here. It's the manner in which you do it. From the very beginning you came across rude and condescending. You take everything I write out of context and insult me. You asked me originally about 2 specific things, and I replied. You have continued to insult my integrity and character ever since. Why the hell would I humor you?

Even now you mock me, even when i am polite. You take little pieces of my posts and try to turn them into whatever you feel will slander me the best.



Here I was asked if I have all the experience I claim, why would I even be on this site. Or even look for such a thing.
This was said by me after repeated insults by YOU kasabi.( in explaining why I fight back)


Throughout my entire time here, you have done nothing but insult me and mock me. Take all my post out of context and generally just annoy the fuck out of me. I never once instigated anything with you. It's quite clear that you have an issue with the amount of attention this thread is getting. In the beginning I asked you respectfully to keep negative comments to yourself and to help. All anyone has to do is read your continuous rude posts to see that you have taken all out of context. Just because you don't agree with my methods, does not give you the right to insult me or to constantly harass me. How old are you dude? You insult my profession, my character and my intelligence. Then when i actually show it has affected me, you insult me more. I am not used to forums or this type of communication. In my world, people don't talk to me like that unless there is a good reason and unless they are willing to get physical.

You challenge my advice as if I was saying it from what I would be doing. It's merely advice,directed SPECIFICALLY TO THE POSTER ASKING THE QUESTION. What is the point of telling someone with Approach Anxiety, what I would do in that situation? They are not going to be able to handle it as I would. I don't get how you don't understand that?

It shocks me that someone that is suppose to have such knowledge of PU, yet you cant understand what I am saying. ( I'm not here to Debate the Art of Pick up, I am here to offer advice to THOSE THAT SEEK IT)

I can't believe I am actually having to explain this. But i know not everyone has read this entire thread and cannot see how out of context most was taken.

My advice given is suited for the situation and the individual. I am not gonna tell someone that has a huge issue with approaching women to just go do it anyways. So they can get rejected over and over. But I can tell them to approach these beautiful women in a friendly manner and ask for opinions. it is getting them to approach, interacting with them-gaining experience engaging them. All while keeping the anxiety low as they are only being friendly.

You mock my advice i gave to someone that has issues with not being able to get out of the friend zone with girls, He said he had a love for fashion, so I gave him some examples of how to compliment with a sexual undertone. YOU MAKE IT OUT TO BE WHAT MY GAME IS.

In fact any advice i gave, you made it out to be WHAT MY GAME IS. this was only advice directed at what THEIR GAME IS.

I explain a common routine of mine when i get to a club early. YOU MAKE IT OUT THAT ALL I DO IS STARE AT PEOPLE ALL NIGHT.

Then you get mad if I don't engage you, Why would I debate with someone that seems to get off on insulting me? it make's no sense.

Rant's and raves? Who call's people retarded? not only is that such a rude and insulting comment, it's not even politically correct. You did nothing but continue to insult me from day one. Ten years ago, I would of wanted to kick the shit out of you. But I am not that guy anymore. That doesn't mean I am going to sit here and let YOU or anyone insult me.

You want me to prove myself, I have no issues with that. I told you numerous times, if you came correct I would have no problem explaining my theory's. I am still waiting for that to happen. All your highjacking has done, is make people feel uncomfortable posting on this thread.

IF you want me you got me. If you can be a MAN about it and discuss with my my theories in a MATURE manner, I would be more then happy to ablige you. But in all honesty your demeanor throughout all of this, makes me not want to even talk to you. Quite frankly, it seems like it would be a waste of my time. You are pretty set in your ways and your beliefs on what is the CORRECT way to do pick up. I can only see it starting and ending one way. You insulting me and my theory's.

I don't have the PUA book education that you have, so yes, my explanations may not be ideal or what you want to here. My knowledge in a sense is street. But that doesn't mean i am a "retard" just because i can't explain it in the manner you wish to hear it.

I strongly suspect your motives are not that of someone that cares about the people of this forum or the art of pick up. Rather someone wants to feed his own ego and perhaps regain the attention as the Big Dog around here. I am not trying to steal your thunder kid. I could care less what everyone thinks of me.

Sure my initial motives were to earn money, I am not denying that. And I am still interested in that, why not? I spent 20 yrs doing this shit! I would love to get something back. But that is not my motives at the moment. I am here to help and I am sure there is dozens of people on this forum that can tell you that.

So here is a suggestion. I will start another thread for the sole purpose of challenging me and my theories. You can address any advice I give on that thread. Be respectful and leave this thread alone and let it be what it is.

I will say this once again though. I will be more then happy to address any challenges as long as they are asked respectfully and my responses are not ridiculed. ( take it for what it's worth, in your eyes or anyone else's)

I've literally had enough and I am seriously considering just leaving. If the insults don't stop then i will not have a choice. This forum is already taking up a lot of my time. I don't wish for it to be a negative experience, if it continues. I will be gone.

Kasabi! even know you are a prick and quite rude. I hold no hard feelings, we are all here for the same reasons ( I think)

I will offer you a peace offering this one time. If you are a man you will at least consider it. I will dis-regard all the insults you have already given me and I will whip my thoughts of you clear.

We can start a thread where you can question me till the cows come home, you can continue to try and dis-credit me, but for the love of god. Be a man about it! and be polite.

What say you?

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