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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:55 am 
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Hi guys,
Im new to the forum, but been in the game for about 6 months..in one sentence..life changing stuff..

anyway, today i saw two girls sitting outside a coffee shop..i approached and with body faced away but head towards them ran the jealous girlfriend opener (god bless it) with false time constraint ..when they started responding i sat down and had totally relaxed cool bodylanguage..i commented on their similar facial expressions and asked if they were best friends...then ran best friend test (god bless style) got a lot of laughing both having a good time..fluffed a little before running number game on the target (at which point both girls started IOI'ing especially the obstacle who wanted attention too..and then......I wanted to number close but didnt know where to go from there!! so i said id better go, and left, and i could see they were disappointed but i had nothing!!

how do you number close in a two set?? i couldnt isolate target because i had no wing and we were at a coffee shop...all i can think of now, is perhaps saying "wow you guys are a lot of fun"....and give of impression that i really find them funny/smart/interesting etc..and then when it comes time to leave saying "so how can we all continue this conversation"? and jsut hope that the target gives me her number.. i did think of bouncing but there was no real appropriate placee to go...anyone got a better technique/advice or comments on this sticking point...would be greatly appreciated!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:18 pm 
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"so how can we all continue this conversation"?
cheers!!
That's always a good one, OR I would use this, "Hey, I have to go I'm meeting up with some friends soon! Here's a piece of paper, write down something creative." If she looks dumb founded. "Here's a hint, write and say, dash, dash dash, pause, dash dash dash, pause, dash dash dash dash." --- --- ---- Get the number and roll on!

Based on the amount of IOIs the obstacle and target gave you along with their dissatisfaction when you left I would say this would have worked even without isolating. 8)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:43 pm 
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As a last ditch effort, the fallback is to always say, "Hey, you guys seem cool. Let me get one of your numbers so we can hang out." While saying this, be facing your target. She should know that you mean her. If you sense hesitation, pull out your phone while you say this, then give it to the target to put the number in herself. I've run this on a two-set and the ambiguity was actually good...I learned later from the target they were arguing afterwards whose number I was actually asking for.


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Try and think up some routines of your own, the routines you used are good in themselves, but they are getting very common. Plus, when you run out of things to say you can pick one of your own routines and field test it a little bit. If you get enough of your own routines field tested you'll never have to worry about being called out for using a well known line.

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What you could do is number close both the girls, and then only call the target. When you get the number, stay another 5 minutes so it doesn't seem like a pickup but you were truely an interesting guy! :-)
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"You guys are so cool. I have to go in a bit to meet my friends, but we should definitly hang out some time. Here, [hand paper or phone] lets exchange numbers."
Always assume the sale, when you number close. Don't say something like "Can I have your number?" It sounds so needy and AFC. ASSUME THE SALE!


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hey guys thanks for the great advice, i totally forgot about not leaving straight after getting their number, will certianly keep that in mind. im gonna try those number closes you guys mentioned today, and hopefully leave with a couple of numbers! thanks a lot!!

tolfan man ure right i do need to come up with some new routines, i think these canned routines are like training wheels in the PUA world, perhaps its time for me get serious haha..although then again i have once run a couple of canned routines on a two set in the line to a club - HB 8 and HB 9 - and they had heard TWO of the routines i mentioned before...surprisingly i just kept plowing, used styles response "ahh a friend of mine uses that line and i didnt believe it actually worked" or some bullshit like that, and just laughed it off and moved on to the next routine...and guess what..they lapped it up and we ended up spending the rest of the night with these girls ;)

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same thing happens to me alex. i get the two set going and then i realize how the hell am i supposed to isolate or number close without a wing. if i ever figure out a solution i'll let you know.


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haha thanks man! i know its hard haha i'm finding the bigger sets easier to close because its no big deal isolating, when im out tonight im going to try open a new set with my two set to create a 4 set, whats this called btw?? and then isolate...haha ill let you know how it goes
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Number closing a two set is remarkably easy my friend. You need to just ask for the number and give her a legitimate reason why you want it other than her appearance. The question you need to be able to ans before asking for her number is why would I want to hang out with this girl or girls in the future. Now take out whatever dirty shit might be going on in your brain. The reason has to be related to anything other than her looks. A good example would be wanting to meet to make new friends that have a similar personality...This is if you have only been with the target long enough to convey a few things about yourself without really building kino, or escalating for w/e reason. The key thing is you DHV, neg, cocky funny a bit, and bust her ball jokingly threw the initial conversation.
Now you should be thinking of ways to isolate your target from her friend in a legitimate way. I used last week in isolating my old high school crush a cigarette line to isolate her. I basically pulled her away for something I needed at the moment giving her an excuse to leave without being a bitch. If you would like some tips on how to isolate a girl in a two set let me know. I've got allot better stuff I've formulated on my own that will seem more original than most of the stuff out their right now.


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