this post is such an amazing reference to look back on thanks alot poetic and also i would really like to see the youtube videos you mentioned .
thanks again

Here are some videos, I'll see if I can get some more up, life has been pretty busy lately. Still need to catch up on my blog.

Here you guys go!

Deciphering Body Language Guidelines 5:55
This video goes over basic concepts in reading body language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzcMkqJOtk4

Preening 6:15
Basically all it is preening, pretty simple. Goes over adjustments appearance and different forms of arousal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgFSTKQdR7U

Submissive Signals 6:50
Goes over submissive signals in courtship, and just around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahNAqowcLyo

Arousal- 9:51
Really long talks about different arousals, body language, understanding basic arousal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in9ih8LxW9w

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Hey Poetic I've read through everything you've had to offer and just wanted to give my thanks. My favorite bit was the part about shy girls. You said you were going to add another post about shy girls, one in more detail than what you've already written so far. Is that still happening?

Also, is there a difference in interpreting the body language if you're in a relationship? Reading this has helped me understand a little more what my shy girlfriend wants, I'm just wondering if there's more to it?

Many thanks once again. This should be stickied.

Wow, read everything? That's a lot of info out there. Thanks for all the appreciation. I'll have to go back and ponder shy girls. Give me a week or so, I'll have to reread some old stuff. I will get back with some more info for you though.

In a relationship body language guidelines are still followed, keep in mind there are certain habits we gain with that person. Body language is usually pretty consistent, with some exceptions of course. You will notice more idiosyncratic behaviors, more things she does when she is uncomfortable and notice more things she does when she is comfortable. Pay attention to her little quirks, like at a poker table you look for tells. Each person has their behaviors and if you want to learn about their behaviors study them. Each person is fascinating and you will learn a lot if you pay close attention. Be careful that you don't over read her, people have their privacy and you can be overly observant sometimes.

Ask her how she feels when she does things, just learn from her. Realize that something very tiny such as rubbing her arm, stepping back, shoulder shrug, torso move, anything can mean an adjustment in feeling. That feeling could be a thought, something that happened, or reality. Whatever it was she had a reaction it's up to you to figure out what the reaction was and what the reaction was to.

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thanks for the reply. I've been pretty busy lately so I haven't had much time to come on here. That bit about relationships was pretty interesting. It was only this week that I kissed my girlfriend for the first time, and I gotta admit you deserve some credit xD. I'm focusing on reading her body language, I can now almost always tell what sort of mood she's in, but getting her to open up is another story. if you could post some more on shy girls, that'd be great. cheers.

i been reading this since 4:00pm pacific its now 5:30pm and i'm still on page 8 and i already feel like i just stepped into a WHOLE NEW GAME!!! i barely made the transition of canned game to natural game i'll ask something later but for now i'm really interested in learning this word by word and becoming a natural Alpha... oh and yes i've actually been bad boy like since i joined the community but never alpha like

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Thanks for the love the1&onlymello! There is a word document with most of the thread on it on the my website.

www.showyourmind.com

Also has some videos. The blog I'm writing for you guys has some interesting stuff too, dance floor overtures, real life body language observations, and there is a couple on alpha body language.

Here is another solid thread people seem to appreciate. Plenty of info I've posted all around enjoy!

being-the-man-charisma-humor-presence-b ... 72823.html

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hey poetic, i have read through your posts many times, and i can't tell you how much it has helped me. Thanks for all this information man.

However, i do have a few questions to ask you. I have been observing people, looking at them when we talk. but i realized that it causes our eye contact to drop dramatically. Just wondering if you have a few tips for me to overcome this problem. Also, i would have to look down when i look at their toes to check for signs of attraction, but i do realize it is a form of submission on my part. Will it have any effect on my game, and how do i overcome this as well?

thanks again for everything man, the blog, the video, it has really changed my life

Hey man it's been a minute sorry, I haven't been around just been off working on my poker game. I'm becoming a very solid player, and my skills with girls are pretty solid so I moved on to other aspects of my life(poker).

1. When you make strong eye contact you look away here and there anyways so that you don't begin to have overbearing eye contact(unless that is what this particular situation needs such as right before a kiss).

2. You need to learn to look at things through your peripheral vision, a person moving their hand against their leg or putting a hand in their pocket can be seen without looking at it. You know when they are straightening their clothes without looking.

3. You can look at their shoes and compliment them, most women choose their shoes very carefully.

4. Keep in mind people always look around, look down, look up, etc., don't worry about looking submissive as long as the rest of your body preaches confidence and you look up(in relative time) so that your back to standing confident and that you just looked down.

Sorry it is so late it's been a while since I've been on. Hope that helps.

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Awsome thread indeed bro. Ive learned abit about reading body language for deceptive behavior in the past and use body language during pick up but reading this thread has open my mind even more to using it for pick up

Ill be checking out those videos soon but help me understand this scenario more. So i get off the train and this hb6-7 gets off as well infrnt of me. Im completly ignore her but frm the peripheral vision i can see she is looking back. Dnt know if she looked back at me in particular becuz there were others in back of me as well. So she looks back and then pulls up her pants, i guess to make sure her undies arent showing. Then she looks back again and im still ignoring her. We get to the steps and she moves in frnt of me and adjusts those pants again (assuming she's preening? Trying to attract my attn to her ass since that was her best asset?) we get to the top of the stairs i pull out my cell as if im standing on the corner txtn and she walks to the left and stands by the hotdog guy for 2 min, then leaves.

Am i reading her right when i say she was preening to get my attention and stood by the hotdog guy in hopes that i would approach and open?

ANY ADJUSTMENT IN HER APPEARANCE IS A FORM OF PREENING. Navarro referred to a lot of the same actions as pacifiers. When we are attracted to someone we tug on our pants, adjust our belt, straighten our shirt, etc.

What she was doing was an overture, what this means is she giving you an opportunity to "pick up" on her. Most of the time when we pick up on girls, they are making the first "move" by sending you signals she is attracted. Most studies have proved that in most courtship interactions women more often then not send the first signs, she sent you a whole bunch of signs. Keep in mind you don't have to wait for signs if you are interested go in and talk to the girl.

That said this woman was very interested, so interested she made sure to make her interest impossible to miss by standing next to you for no reason for 2 minutes. That is a definite overture, anything even 15 second pauses can be overtures. Obviously other signs need be present(preening(nice addition), eye contact(must), submissive(common with shy girls as they freeze more often), etc.) but more often then not they will pause for 30 seconds or more, I've had girls stand in front of me and send signs for 5 minutes.

You were given opportunity next time capitalize my friend. Best of luck! Ask any more questions if you'd like.

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Understood!! I wanted to approach and open but i have a bit of shyness im working on overcoming and i am little by little. But i think its a bit more of a challenge here in nyc since these girls are approached all day everyday!!

Funny story, i was living with a female roommate one time.. She was an hb8 but very insecure. One morning she brks up with her bf (i didnt kno this yet though)and comes into my rm looking for a dvd, she's wearing sweat pants and a tank top & the whale tale of her thong was clearly visible (it usually never is, she always covers herself up). Im half slp in my bed and she actin like she dnt know how to eject the dvd (remind u, she has the same macbook i do) so she asks me to help her and i noticed her thong but didnt make any comments or any moves. I give her the dvd and go back to bed. Later that evening she tells me how her bf broke up with her. Thats when i realized she came in my rm that morning on the rebound and was looking to take her mind off her bf, not the dvd lol, wouldve been such an easy f close!!

Ima be communicatin with you back & forth cause i love learning about reading body language, its like a new secret code of flirting and i love to flirt

Yeah, that was a definite opening but not necessarily to bang, it could have just been her needing to talk to someone or just in need of some of that sexual attention. I will say this having sex with your roommate is a HUGE MISTAKE! Very few people have the ability to leave sex at just sex, most eventually attach some sort of intimate value to it(even guys), so be careful not to do anything with your female roommate.

I had friend who started having sex with his roommate knowing she was some what sexually open and it ended poorly. He wanted to have sex more often then she did and that meant she hated going home, created a bad situation, and I was close friends with both of them. There ended up being a ton of disdain between the two of them.

There are a few situations I don't recommend:
-Don't have sex with roommates.
-Don't Expect sex with your Close friends to allow for a normal on going relationship, things will change, good or bad they change.
-Don't have sex with co-workers.
-Don't have sex with girls in your Apt building(unless it is huge).

Always be aware of the repercussions of sex with people within circles of your life.

There will always be exceptions where they perceive sex as just that, but keep in mind you must also perceive sex as just sex. Your own perception of sex and it's attachment also presents it's own issues. If you can disassociate sex from intimacy and they can, then green light in almost all situations.

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Hi, ok situation: class and the girl that sits with you does at least two things - laughs at EVERY joke of you and mimics your body language (if you sit straight she sits straight, if you pick up the oen she picks up the pen and so on).
These are good signs, but can it be that she does it only because she thinks you are very cool as a classmate?
Like is it 50/50 or more like 90/10 in your favor or whatever?
Cheers

Well, I find it likely that she has a big crush on you, a lot of people as a nervous tick will laugh at their crush when they say anything sounding funny. Laughter is usually pretty consistent when it comes to them being attracted.

If she mimics your body language she is practicing isopraxism, she at the very least likes you as a person. It is possible that she only thinks your a cool classmate, but I would find it more likely she is actually attracted to you. When me mimic people of the opposite sex and we are heterosexual we tend to be attracted to that person.

Look for preens and submissive signals to confirm my thoughts but I'd say she likely has a crush. I'd bet there is even some blushing if you pay close attention, just figure out a good TRUE compliment and give it to her, if she blushes as I suspect she will then she is likely very attracted. However even if she doesn't blush she may preen or look down in a shy manner(submissive).

Body language isn't 50/50 or 90/10 and without actually seeing her I can't say one thing or the other, I'd guess your chances are a lot better then 50/50 but not positive enough to say 90/10.

Hope you are doing good Silverito, it's been a long time.

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