im new to sarging and this is my routines so far.. it seemed to have worked on a 23 year old and she was an easy HB8.. and im only 19 lol

my buddy introduced me to his friend, as soon as i met her i looked rite in her eyes and had a smile i pulled her close gently with my hand around her back side and i said in her ear "you look gorgeous tonight" and then followed with "your dress is looks really pretty" she laughed and smiled she then proceeded to say "thank you" i positioned my self next to her and she kind of did a little flippy hair thing, i told her in her ear again that her hair smelt amazing and then walked away and pretended i had nothing to say anymore and went to talk to my buddy again, i could tell she was disapointed that i left, while i was talking to my buddy she didnt leave she stuck around and continued to make eye contact with me, so i called her over and said "come dance with me" we danced to one song and i told her blah blah about how she is a really good dancer. i said to her come get some tequila with me, so i could do the lime routine, considering its pretty much the only drink that gives you a lime or lemon with it, i proceeded to tell her " i bet you dont know why they give you a lime with drinks?" and she said why? i told her its because it stimulates your tongues pleasure senses so the drink tastes better (that is bull i know) but she doesn't lol, i told her to taste it before she had the shot after she tasted it, i said "now let me taste your lips" and she laughed and said no, i then laughed and kind of gave her a shove and said "your no fun" we took the shots and after that i said wow are your nails real? and she was impressed i had noticed this i didn't really care was just building it up. i was touching her hands at this point to get a better look, i said waow you have soft hands, and turned them over. i asked her if she had a boyfriend and she said no and laughed i said i was wondering because i bet i can tell you more about your self by just looking at your hands then alot of people you know can, she was interested i read her palm with a few tricks of the heart line and the life line, she loved it and then i asked her if she believed in magic, (at this point we are at the bar alone completely isolated) she said no, i did the mystery magic number routine and got both numbers wrong lol, 3 and 7 didn't work ahha so i said well magic must not be real then, she was lovin it all i was getting great IOI's i i decided to start my close, i asked her if she liked wine? and she replied with a yes! i said we should hang out tomorrow and get pre drink a little wine? she liked that as well. we made a little more small talk getting to know each other and the bar had its last call, so i asked her if she would like me to walk her back to her rez room, she wanted me too. i sealed the deal.

I did this same routine the next night (didn't text that girl back) and it didn't work out so well most girls with the opener didn't seem to like it? if anyone can tell me why it worked with her and not more girls? or help me out to get it easier with other girls? what should i change and what should i do differently, it owuld be great to get some feedback.

I like it. Lol. I may actually borrow this one if u don't mind. Lol. But after the magic number trick you wanna kinda tease her if it doesn't work. For example if it doesnt work I say. Oh I guess it doesn't work on retarded girls. Lol. But ur gonna wanna be playful about it. It will come across too harsh if ur not playful.

yeah man try it out, i need to fix a little rough edges up but i mean it did get me a f close and it was litterally the first time iv even tried sarging. lol im only half way through "the game" lol i just put a couple routines together and went to the feild to give it a test. ahahah

The thing is.. you're just giving compliments. They hear that all the time... where are the negs?

yeah i feel you on that, im no good with the negs thank you i have to figure out how to do this and do the whole push pull thing.

yeah do samething happens to me. For me it all is a numbers game. I would go out one night meet and f-close a girl. and i would try to use the same game on others but i doesn't work. I really got over the obssesion of trying to "perfect" my game to try to make it work on every girl i meet. and I really don't care anymore cause I know that if i game five different girls, I know for sure I'm gonna get one. I just keep playing the numbers =]

and damm dude you only 19 and were getting drinks at a bar? wow lol

The problem with your routine is that it is focused on compliments, as that one guy said earlier you have to involve negs. Now what I suggest is that you neg her once or twice, when she whipped her hair you should have said something like " Smells like alcohol." What I suggest is something along the lines of what you are doing + a few negs+ excitement+leaving something behind so she will remember you. The compliments will give her a sense of pride, the negs will make her think that you are ahead of her and can't reach her, all women get caught up in excitement so what you do is pull her randomly away and start dancing with her, become extremely spontaneous, kiss on the lips that night don't be afraid, then give her a token of remembrance, and ask for her number. All women are different, if a woman liked the fact that she is being given compliments that could mean that she likes being taken care of and likes to be the center of attention, if she doesn't respond well to compliments that means she is extremely self conscious which means that it would be easier for you to get in that.

These are just little suggestions

Hey bro, your overall routine isn't too bad and like everyone else has said, you have to use some negs. You're throwing some compliments out there that can easily by used as negs. For instace:

when you first open, say "Wow, you look amazing" pause "it's gotta be that amazing dress" in a funny/playful manner

when you give the nails compliment, you could say "nice nails, are those really real?"

It's more about the delivery though, and I use negs playfully/humorously so it's really up to you.

And these are just a few variations that I suggest, you could do your own and I'm not an expert either so let me know what you guys think of them as well.

Sorry browskie, but why are you telling him to neg for...is there a reason?

To the OP,

the girl in your story was attracted to you. It may have been they way you delivered, it have been the fact that you complimented OR it may have been the fact the YOU HAD THE BALLS to talk to her. And not just talk to her but dance with her and show her a GOOD time.
Remember this and it may be hard to believe but trust me on it. Most pretty girls don't get talked too. Some might say something like "hey your pretty" and when the girl doesn't answer they think she's a bitch.

Now the fact that it didn't work on the second one is simple, not one thing works on every girl. What I suggest you do, is find what you enjoying talking about and what you enjoying doing, because when you do shit like negs(that's not you) and the girl ends up like it. She ends up like the negs and not YOU.

Leave the negs for the guys that need em.

Congrats on the work you did with the first girl.

Peace

Ofcourse, nice guys fail on HB 8-9-10 most of the time. Girls will look at them as ass-lickers. Since they don't critique. Not very attractive right?

Second, . I don't know where you come from but sounds like you go to caveman-parties. HB-8-9-10 are getting picked on BIG TIME. They just don't like it really because most of the time they have been picked on million times they create a shield.

The thing that breaks that shield are NEGS... so common every pick-up-artist knows it, I am surprised you don't know this with all your posts.

Lines like 'He, you look great blabla' work when you look like Tom Cruise of Brad Pitt. They are less effective with average looking guys.

I work bars, it's easy to pick up girls from there because you envy great value. I think one of the main things about picking up girls to display great value and by kissing her ass and telling her things she heard thousand times before you don't display big value...

Riqueza.

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Sorry browskie, the reason is clear ofcourse. That one girl was attracted, the others were not. Lets say he approached 5 girls and only had a close with 1 of the girls that’s 1/5. A very bad numbersgame so far... Because his approach was way to AFC, girls like nice guys, they don’t love them though.

Ur also giving him props for having the balls to approach, wtf isn’t that basic PUA? Its what this forum is all about. Approach girls and he had the balls to dance to her? Whoop-the-fucking-doop man. WHO DOESN’T HAVE BALLS FOR THAT. Even gays have! 1 hit is BAD.

Yes, maybe he gave her good time, fuck-close? Don’t see it coming with HB8+ he didn’t show value like Riqueza said.
The way ur saying it it is that negging is lying about yourself for some… so for example if I neg her hair and make a comment about it that means im lying about me? plain bs. Plus if a little lying helps me get into her c*nt, I enjoy lying xD.
You obviously need them cuz u have a way to nice approach, no alpha more monkeyboy behavior, makes me wonder how good you are.

Happy failing.

P.s good post Riqueza.

If the opener isn't working again try using indirect openers. Theres loads out there it is a lot eaisier for HB to respond to and start gaming.

No offense but I'd say you were lucky that sorta material's not gonna work a lot.

good pickup tho.