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I think you are overreacting bro, you actually talked to a whole bunch of girls that day, I remember you didn't talk to none in your posts. Last chick you shoulda gotten her number but its all good man plenty fishes in the sea. I like the fact that LMS is a great prospect but don't make her your only prospect broo. Keep it up and like the war strategist Sun Tzu said "Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
Don't get me wrong, it was a good day. :) I'm really positive about all this. I think results are going to come fast if I keep it up.

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However, if you want to successfully cut a deal, you're going to have to transcend your desires and demonstrate value to each member of that room.
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Then demonstrate to her what 'luck' means for her. If you have 'everything', then demonstrate to her what 'everything' can do for her. Currently, you're simply letting her figure these things out for her self.
Theorycally, I got it... but the question is how can I demonstrate in fact value to people? I mean, you're right, I let them figure this out (give them my Facebook i.e) instead of highlighting the reality. Again, it might be a question of behaviour... I should act like I am high-value: I should demonstrate it. In the end, I'm not DHVing. I'm just HV but not demonstrating anything...

But as for the "ego" concept, being high-value is hard to define and if I want to tackle this whole "not demonstrating anything" issue, I have to think about what is high-value to me.

What is high-value?
Since being high-status (socially good, dominant, high level in the group ...) is attractive to women, demonstrating high-value helps you make the target/the group understand that you are high-status. (correct me if I'm wrong!)

So again, I'm missing some intelligence about social dynamics. I don't act like I'm high-value, so I'm not perceived as high-statuts, so I'm not that attractive at all to girls in a group (exchange students, future classmates...). I'm going round in circles here, because the question is the same again... How to be perceived as high-status? How to demonstrate high-value? How to act like I am high-value? How shoud I interact with people in a way that demonstrate high-status? What's the solution?

So much stuff to think about, so little time. I'm going out looking for a new number close today.

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You know what the DLV is? Being two guys at a party and being scared to talk to girls because its a DLV.
haha... You're right Hobbit! Gimme some time, I'll be the life of the party. This first "cervejada" (= beer party) allowed me to get used to the field.

I'm going to another beer party this afternoon, at 6pm... Little Miss Sunshine will be there! She invited me by email again. I'm calling her to plan this.

I also have a new number-close on a cold approach for direction. HB8,5/9... So cute, wonderful eyes. I'll tell you more about this tonight or tomorrow morning in the DAY 43 report.

The Game is on.

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Read what I wrote here. It probably applies to you as well. Slow things down. . .

the-journal-of-a-fing-italian-vt84952.html?highlight=

Secondly, I've been meaning to write something up on this topic but I've been traveling around a lot the last month and haven't had a chance to sit in front of the same computer for a while.

Your new 'male' friends are sticking around with you because they 'feel' that there's some value in it. You're social, you're International, and you have some pedigree for success. What does this mean for them? Perhaps in the future, there is potential for business networking but here and now, you still have the ability to bring everybody together and add value to the group.

You have the ability to open and you have the ability to attract. Make it work for them. If you ever go out to a bar/club/party with these guys, you will likely hear somebody say, "Wow, that girl is beautiful." - So your response is, "Let's see if we can get her over here." And you make a little project out of it. You pick a social guy of the bunch and tell him, "When I bring those girls over here, let's keep her friends busy so "Romeo"(the first guy to comment) can chat with the pretty girl."

1. You're helping a guy in the team "get" a girl. (Most likely, he will fuck it up but you did your part)
2. You're creating a project and getting others involved. They feel that they're doing something useful . . . and it's a whole lot of fun.
3. Your message is, "I am talented and I fight for the team." - but you're DEMONSTRATING it. (What do most guys do? They say this shit but sit there and drink beer.)
4. "It's all in the effort." - Actual success or failure does not really matter. EVERYBODY knows that effort + talent = eventual success. Very, very few people apply this simple formula to their lives. So even if you come back without the girl(s), you come back, laugh, and go, "OK, pick another girl. Any girl. I'm going back out there! LOL . . ." - Everybody will still see the 'successful formula' at work.

*^This is pretty much the formula to get invited to more parties that you'll know what to do with.

Demonstrating "FUN" with girls:

Asking a girl, "Where is the party?" is like asking your guy friends, "Where are your sisters? Are they good looking?" You're essentially looking at a cute girl and asking her, "So, where are your cute friends?" - This is just a tiny little mistake. Look, you are the party; you turn boring situations into fun situations. Once you do this, THEY WILL INVITE you to all the parties. Have some patience.

So what is fun? I'd say that for women, it's "FANTASIES". And chatting a bit should give you an idea for your 'way in'.

1. Same advice I offered 'grand master' for number closes. Unless the girl you're chatting with is a screwball, you're going to have to sooner or later demonstrate that you are not a psycho killer. Going to a local school, knowing some common people, having gone to some common parties, restaurants, bars, or sites, or having some common interests should do the trick.

2. You're from France. ANYTIME a girl takes interest in France, you should agree with her. "Yes, it's really lovely this time of the year . . ." - And you should always have a few specific stories on the tip of your tongue. (restaurants, museums, riviera, etc . . .) She goes, "WOW" and that's when you invite her. Is a 'date' at the Louvre likely to happen? No. However, is it a remote possibility? . . . YES! And that's what makes this work. (Boring guys with no lives cannot do this.)

3. To you, you're living your life. To them, you're living an adventurous life. Include her in it. So instead of asking a 'cute girl' for directions to a party, you could have told her, "There is a fantastic bar here that reminds me of ______, the jewel of Italy." - You can in fact choose the WORST BAR in Brazil and she might say:

Girl: Are you kidding? That place is very bad!
You: (Looking at her curiously) Have you never tried the Sgroppino? Refreshing, bright . . . like a little orgasm in a champagne flute. Come, you need to experience this.
Girl: I don't know.
You: Oh I agree with you: A cocktail so delicious should probably be illegal; not allowed!

Then you change the topic all together. She will feel she 'missed the window' for the invite and think to herself, "I should have said yes! I should have said yes! I am so stupid. . ." Then you start up the cycle again with another topic and she won't say, "I don't know" the next time. You offer her another invite and put your hand out, she will grab it.

*Make a habit of the number close. There are benefits to getting the number from every girl you meet. Forget the braces, logistics, and the American Body (By the way, I enjoyed reading this offhand joke. American Body = Fat Body. Ha ha ha . . . ) Any how, your mandate now is to INCREASE your social pool. Even if your goal is a one night stand, just get the number and plant some 'fantasies' in her head.

**I'm off to NYC tonight. When I get around to it, I'll pm you a k-close routine.


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Read what I wrote here. It probably applies to you as well. Slow things down. . .

the-journal-of-a-fing-italian-vt84952.html?highlight=
Read it, indeed I'll slow down a little. The problem is I have less and less time to write in this journal, so I do it quickly. I don't think this applies to reality though... I'm trying really hard to be relaxed and cool when approaching a girl now. Anyway, I'll try to write less and more precisely.
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Secondly, I've been meaning to write something up on this topic but I've been traveling around a lot the last month and haven't had a chance to sit in front of the same computer for a while.

Your new 'male' friends are sticking around with you because they 'feel' that there's some value in it. You're social, you're International, and you have some pedigree for success. What does this mean for them? Perhaps in the future, there is potential for business networking but here and now, you still have the ability to bring everybody together and add value to the group.

You have the ability to open and you have the ability to attract. Make it work for them. If you ever go out to a bar/club/party with these guys, you will likely hear somebody say, "Wow, that girl is beautiful." - So your response is, "Let's see if we can get her over here." And you make a little project out of it. You pick a social guy of the bunch and tell him, "When I bring those girls over here, let's keep her friends busy so "Romeo"(the first guy to comment) can chat with the pretty girl."

1. You're helping a guy in the team "get" a girl. (Most likely, he will fuck it up but you did your part)
2. You're creating a project and getting others involved. They feel that they're doing something useful . . . and it's a whole lot of fun.
3. Your message is, "I am talented and I fight for the team." - but you're DEMONSTRATING it. (What do most guys do? They say this shit but sit there and drink beer.)
4. "It's all in the effort." - Actual success or failure does not really matter. EVERYBODY knows that effort + talent = eventual success. Very, very few people apply this simple formula to their lives. So even if you come back without the girl(s), you come back, laugh, and go, "OK, pick another girl. Any girl. I'm going back out there! LOL . . ." - Everybody will still see the 'successful formula' at work.


That makes perfectly sense for me. I can see the whole "demonstration" thing more clearly now.
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Asking a girl, "Where is the party?" is like asking your guy friends, "Where are your sisters? Are they good looking?" You're essentially looking at a cute girl and asking her, "So, where are your cute friends?" - This is just a tiny little mistake. Look, you are the party; you turn boring situations into fun situations. Once you do this, THEY WILL INVITE you to all the parties. Have some patience.
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1. Same advice I offered 'grand master' for number closes. Unless the girl you're chatting with is a screwball, you're going to have to sooner or later demonstrate that you are not a psycho killer. Going to a local school, knowing some common people, having gone to some common parties, restaurants, bars, or sites, or having some common interests should do the trick.
Sure! I've read it actually. I always say that I'm going to the University of São Paulo. All the girls I approached actually know the place since they are students too. I also tell them where I'm staying, it's a good neighbourhood.
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2. You're from France. ANYTIME a girl takes interest in France, you should agree with her. "Yes, it's really lovely this time of the year . . ." - And you should always have a few specific stories on the tip of your tongue. (restaurants, museums, riviera, etc . . .) She goes, "WOW" and that's when you invite her. Is a 'date' at the Louvre likely to happen? No. However, is it a remote possibility? . . . YES! And that's what makes this work. (Boring guys with no lives cannot do this.)
Yes indeed! Actually I speak a lot about the Louvre. I've done it with two of my three approaches. I have to have more stories about Paris and improve the story telling though.
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3. To you, you're living your life. To them, you're living an adventurous life. Include her in it. So instead of asking a 'cute girl' for directions to a party, you could have told her, "There is a fantastic bar here that reminds me of ______, the jewel of Italy." - You can in fact choose the WORST BAR in Brazil and she might say:

Girl: Are you kidding? That place is very bad!
You: (Looking at her curiously) Have you never tried the Sgroppino? Refreshing, bright . . . like a little orgasm in a champagne flute. Come, you need to experience this.
Girl: I don't know.
You: Oh I agree with you: A cocktail so delicious should probably be illegal; not allowed!

Then you change the topic all together. She will feel she 'missed the window' for the invite and think to herself, "I should have said yes! I should have said yes! I am so stupid. . ." Then you start up the cycle again with another topic and she won't say, "I don't know" the next time. You offer her another invite and put your hand out, she will grab it.
I see. It's a bit of push pull here, you put passion in something and then switch to something else. Since she has not responded to it, she feels like she missed an opportunity... and won't refuse anything after that.
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*Make a habit of the number close. There are benefits to getting the number from every girl you meet. Forget the braces, logistics, and the American Body (By the way, I enjoyed reading this offhand joke. American Body = Fat Body. Ha ha ha . . . ) Any how, your mandate now is to INCREASE your social pool. Even if your goal is a one night stand, just get the number and plant some 'fantasies' in her head.

**I'm off to NYC tonight. When I get around to it, I'll pm you a k-close routine.
Fantasies! Got it.
Thanks kasabi, enjoy NYC.

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DAY 43: seeing Little Miss Sushine.
Discovering Brazilian culture.

Context.
Yesterday, Little Miss Sushine sent me a email inviting me to a party downtown. I could not make it. She sent me another one today since there was another beer party in the campus this time. The party started at 6pm but she told me she had classes until 9pm.

Addressed issues.
- Difficulty to be at ease at night game.
- Difficulty to go out by myself.
- Difficulty to kiss close.

Strategy.
KINO! Let's do a KINO escalation!

Goals.
- Enjoy the party!
- Escalate with Little Miss Sunshine
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I texted LMS that I'll be in front of the uni a little after 9pm. Here's the answer at 9.09pm:
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I'm still in classes... Don't know when I'll get out.
Seriously? So I'm coming by myself and she sends me that? Played it cool though. Answered that I'll speak to random people while waiting for her. Actually I've met a cool Brazilian guy that I knew from the integration day. I started to speak with him. I received a text later from LMS telling me that she was at the party. So basically, she's not even coming in front of the building to get me to the party (the party was behing it but I told her that I was waiting for her to take me there). Anyway, the Brazilian dude took me there and I called her. She did not answer. Yeah, she did not answer to my call. So basically, she was in the middle of that huge party, and I did not know where she was.

The Brazilian dude had to go back to classes (yeah, some of the guys here have classes from 7pm to 11pm) but fortunately, I stumbled upon a group of exchange students so I was not alone. I started to enjoy the party, the music was nice, I've met some people. I called LMS again. No answer. It started to rain. Since the party was outside, it ended suddenly. Called her again. No answer.

I started to meet other chiks.
- I spoke to an 18yo girl who was kind of cute. She was holding two beers but dropped them to shake my hand when I introduced myself. She told me she just has spoken to another French guy that has a good Portuguese too. I answered: "so go talk to him" with a smile. Dunno why I've said that. But I laughed at her reaction and applied some KINO. She laughed but ejected soon after. I think she took it seriously. She was way to young anyway.

The party started again, I went to get a drink at the bar. On my way, I stumbled upon LMS. She kissed me on the cheek and hugged me. I was a bit surprised, I was the one that was supposed to apply KINO. But... Wait a minute... that was not the HB8 that I've approached... she was barely a 6. Her hair was not so beautiful, she was drunk and not attractive to me at all. What the hell hapened? Have I been building an image of her that was not the reality? Was her Facebook and all the hot photos a scam? Anyway, she took me to her friends: welcome to uglyland. She introduced me to several ugly girl friends (she was the best one out there) and a random guy. I played it nice, chatted a bit with them. She's been speaking about me wih them. Anyway, she actually left me with them... She was dancing like a hippy behing me while some of her girlfriends were speaking to me. What the hell? I was surrounded by children. I kissed her goodbye and told her that I was getting back to my friend. I mean come on, she's not showing interest AT ALL, and she left me with some 20yo kids? Really? She applied a strong KINO while kissing my cheek.

I had to go a little after since I did not want to miss the bus.

Results. I had fun.

I went back home really surprised about all this. I mean, she did not deserve her nickname. She was just stupid to me... Inviting me to a party and letting me by myself? Introducing some friends and leaving me with them? How come she went from a 8 to a small 6? I don't know... but that makes me smile.

Culture.
Later, when I got home I noticed she was connected to Facebook. I opened to understand what happened tonight. "I liked the party, it was really cool"... She ended up by apologizing about not answering to the phone. She told me it was cultural. Here people don't give damn about being late, about not showing up, ... She did not even have her phone with her when I called her. Told her that was strange to me. Anyway, she actually told me that she likes me:
ME - I was with the Latin community, they like me.
HER - I like you. I'm latin.
Whatever.
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About the strategy.
Nothing to say here.

About Little Miss Sunshine.
Truth is, I just don't care if it's cultural or not, but she is weird. So she likes me but takes the risk of not seeing me? She likes me but act like she does not care? She acts stupid and then apologize on Facebook? I am not going to chase her. I don't even know if I wanna see her again. I guess I could enjoy sex with her. But damn, culture or not, she should treat me wayyyy better. Next time, it will be with my rules or there won't be a next time. I'm not a babysitter.

About the game.
- Culture is a key element when gaming. Brazilians just don't give a damn.
- Night Game is not my thing for now: I've been cool and relaxed but opening girls that are expected to be approached, opening in a competitive aera, drunk girls, dance...

I'm going to sleep now. This day has been really funny... The LMS situation makes me laugh... really.

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It's like we are reading two different stories. You only pay attention to negative signals and ignore positive ones.
Well, I'm sure she likes me Hobbit, that's a good signal. But we were supposed to meet each other and then go to the party. She just went to the party with her friends and did not care about me at all. We were supposed to meet each other Hobbit. I was not asking for a huge favour here. I just asked her if we could meet in front of the building so that I don't get lost (the campus is huge). I played it nice though. Accepted a lot of things.

I'm the one supposed to pick her up: okay. But she did not even try to find me... she went to the party without her phone. I mean I can't reward that kind of behaviour.

[edit: I was not mad at all, I just found that was weird. She seems to really like me but she does not act like that at all... I actually laugh about it. I mean, back then in my AFC times, I would have left the party. I did not at all. I loved it. I've met a lot of peole and all. I just could not understand her behaviour at the moment.]

I think I will see her again though. In one of the 6/7 sentences we exchange, she told me she'll invite me to another party Friday. Dunno what I'll do but I'll try to make it my own way this time.

Am I missing other positive signals?

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I guess you expected some "European" SPAM, and her behavior may sound flakey from my perspective too but maybe is the norm in Brazil (I don't know anything about Brazil, but I guess there are some cultural differences)...

Anyway, first I don't mind showing up at a party alone. I am sarging alone all the way, and I think that when you go out alone you learn and improve more because it's much more difficult, and you have to push yourself into approaching (otherwise you just stay there without doing nothing!).

Second, start being more indipendent. This of course is difficult to achieve since you're brand new there, but trust me, I've been an exchange student as well, 6 months fades away in the blink of an eye. I don't know your personal finances but I would consider making NOW some medium term investment (a motorbike? a road bike?) in order to achieve some indipendece from this bus thing that SUCKS.

Third, just have more social fun. Stay home the minimum necessary. Study in public library. Have dinner out with friends. Organize party in your student house or in your home! Be the soul of your community!

Fourth. Sao Paulo is a 10 million city. It is MASTODONTIC. Find the places you like the most where you can achieve your social goals... I don't know, find out about concerts, go to the art gallery, museum, whatever stimulate your mind!

P.S. I understand that a drunk girl loses a lot in the HB scale... I can't believe how they can't realize it... usually the girls are etremely aware of their own value... Maybe her hair were wet from the rain and looked ugly... LOL... Anyway, the way she KINO you, she's most probably into you. Words can lie, but body language do not!


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I guess you expected some "European" SPAM, and her behavior may sound falkey from my perspective too but maybe is the norm in Brazil (I don't know anything about Brazil, but I guess there are some cultural differences)...
Sure, I understand there might be some cultural differences but what is really weird is that she actually apologize everytime. Isn't silly to act in a way and apologize for that?
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Anyway, first I don't mind showing up at a party alone. I am sarging alone all the way, and I think that when you go out alone you learn and improve more because it's much more difficult, and you have to push yourself into approaching (otherwise you just stay there without doing nothing!).
Good point Fucking Italian. I'll do it more often even if I'm not really into nightgame. I've learned a lot of things yesterday: I am neve alone. There's always somebody to talk to.
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Second, start being more indipendent. This of course is difficult to achieve since you're brand new there, but trust me, I've been an exchange student as wel, 6 months fades away in blink of an eye. I don't know your personal finances but I would consider making NOW some medium term investment (a motorbike? a road bike?) in order to achieve some indipendece from this bus thing that SUCKS.
For sure, logistics are a bit complicated here but I'll get over it.
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Third, just have more social fun. Stay home the minimum necessary. Study in public library. Have dinner out with friends. Organize party in your student house or in your home! Be the soul of your community!
Yes!
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Fourth. Sao Paulo is a 10 million city. It is MASTODONTIC. Find the places you like the most where you can achieve your social goals... I don't know, find out about concerts, go to the art gallery, museum, whatever stimulate your mind!
Working on that too!
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P.S. I understand that a drunk girl loses a lot in the HB scale... I can't believe how they can't realize it... usually the girls are etremely wawre of their own value... Maybe her hair were wet from the rain and looked ugly... LOL... Anyway, the way she KINO you, she's most probably into you. Words can lie, but body language do not!
She does like me and I think I've scored some points yesterday: I was relaxed, good BL... I did not stay long with her since well, she seemed to not pay attention at all to me. I'll work this out.

Grazie Italian.

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Sounds good. Little miss sunshine... I think the i didn't see the phone is just a made up story. She text you so i call that bullshit. I just think she's doing what all girls that do. Playing the game... You could have just grabbed her and isolated. Whatever... She's not all that if you say. all her friends were of low value. That will have raised your value. Game this girl at your leisure. Not sure about every one being kids. Dude you're only 22. The age gap is nothing. Anyway good stuff!

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Sounds good. Little miss sunshine... I think the i didn't see the phone is just a made up story. She text you so i call that bullshit. I just think she's doing what all girls that do. Playing the game... You could have just grabbed her and isolated. Whatever... She's not all that if you say. all her friends were of low value. That will have raised your value. Game this girl at your leisure. Not sure about every one being kids. Dude you're only 22. The age gap is nothing. Anyway good stuff!
She has not her phone with her at the party. She has not even tried to give me an excuse... She texted me that she was going to the party and left her phone in the car I guess. Her friends were definitely low-value. I'm 23, they were 18/20. That's not a lot but believe me man, I was a man surrounded with kids.

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Salut Daniel

Dude, you're in Brazil. Gaming in Brazil is a piece of cake...of course you are an "estrangeiro" as brazilians would call...so, not knowing portuguese makes gaming a little harder. let me just tell you some of my experience...Hope this helps you out.

I am Brazilian but..now I've been living in Canada...alright...After living 4 years in Canada, I finally got time to take some vacation in Brazil...Spent 3 months there from december 2010 to february 2011. I gotta say...I had forgotten how hot, nice and easy going Brazilian girls are..comparing to Canadian girls - no offense.

First thing you gotta know about brazilian women is - they love the french language!
Second thing you gotta know is that you don't need to speak portuguese to pick up women in brazil.

So if you know french....it will be a lot easier to pick up women. I, myself, speak french fluently, since I lived a few years in France. During these 3 months of constant sarging with my old brazillian buddies...I was actually the one who was most successful with women. why ? because I know french and english. As I told you before - Brazilian women love "gringos". The good thing is that most my friends in Brazil speak english as well.

The best thing you could do right know, Daniel, is make friends at the campus, who preferably speak english...because you're gonna need at least one of them to "help you" translate what you say.

so, a lot of times at the clubs and pubs, I would start a conversation with a group of women in french...just go to a girl and randomly start speaking french to her. If they don't understand - They won't - ask them in english if they know english. A lot of them won't know english. in that case, your friend comes into play...he explain to the HB that you are french, don't speak portuguese and then he becomes your translator. You won't believe how interested they become...Since there's not a lot of french people in Brazil...HBs are gonna fight to get your attention and they'll let you kino them a lot more.

I'm serious..I've done it a lot of times in Brazil. I've made out with a of girls without even speaking my first language, portuguese. I would recommend you work on seduction techniques - Gambler's stuff is great - watch some of his videos.

If the HB you're interested in speaks english...it's even better cause then you can seduce her with french and tell them what you just said in english. Play a little hard to get though..don't tell them and give them right away what they want haha.

The only bad thing about this pick up technique is that you NEED a friend who can translate what you are saying at least in the beginning...after you isolate her, you won't need his help anymore..it will be all about seduction.

One day i went to a pub with my cousin, and we only spoke in english...some girls would even open us to ask where we're from. Then I saw 2 HB8, and my friend introduced one to me as his french cousin. After some kino, everytime I spoke french to her, with my lips gently touching her ears, she would be like "ohhh that's making me crazyy" "so beautiful" "speak more french" (in portuguese)..what she didn't know is that I am brazilian hahaha.
Funny thing...she would say to her friend stuff like (in portuguese) "acho que vou abusar desse corpinho hoje" - "I think I'm going to abuse this body tonight".
and I would understand everything but had to act as if I didn't...really funny.
at the end..my cousin ended up taking her friend home, and my HB took me
to a motel. I wont need to tell the rest except that I had a great time acting like im the french gringo haha

Of course a lot of time I would game in portuguese...but speaking french makes it more successful and fun because they love it!

Anyways man...just be creative...make friends who like to go clubbing, and ask them to be your translator. It works great!
For you it's even better because you are a real french hahaha...
not a fake like me (it was fun though)

What else can I tell you...brazilian women are really friendly. Just like any other women. They won't bring you down if you approach them...the worst that happened to me was have a HB ignore me when I approached her. that's about it.
Just be friendly and cool...make lots of friends....I'm sure you're confident when speaking french so just work on you voice tone, body language (watch gambler's video) and talk to HB in french. ask them to teach you some portuguese in exchange of french ;)

Enjoy your time in Brazil and don't worry toooo much...just go for it and you'll get to meet, K-close and F-close a lot of HB in brazil

If you have any question man, just PM me or post it here.
I'll be glad to help you....although I am pretty new at this PUA stuff...most of my gaming came from my own mistakes and own experience back in Brazil.

Now I gotta worry about gaming in Canada..which is a lot harder in my opinion.

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Btw Daniel..
what I'm going to tell you might sound lame..

but...

Try getting miss sunshine's MSN....in my own experience, texting doesn't really work well in Brazil...They usually exchange MSN and from there set up dates.

A lot of times I'd get a HB msn and then set up a date. Or you can just call her.


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Salut Daniel

Dude, you're in Brazil. Gaming in Brazil is a piece of cake...of course you are an "estrangeiro" as brazilians would call...so, not knowing portuguese makes gaming a little harder. let me just tell you some of my experience...Hope this helps you out.

I am Brazilian but..now I've been living in Canada...alright...After living 4 years in Canada, I finally got time to take some vacation in Brazil...Spent 3 months there from december 2010 to february 2011. I gotta say...I had forgotten how hot, nice and easy going Brazilian girls are..comparing to Canadian girls - no offense.

First thing you gotta know about brazilian women is - they love the french language!
Second thing you gotta know is that you don't need to speak portuguese to pick up women in brazil.
I speak French and Portuguese meu!
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So if you know french....it will be a lot easier to pick up women. I, myself, speak french fluently, since I lived a few years in France. During these 3 months of constant sarging with my old brazillian buddies...I was actually the one who was most successful with women. why ? because I know french and english. As I told you before - Brazilian women love "gringos". The good thing is that most my friends in Brazil speak english as well.

The best thing you could do right know, Daniel, is make friends at the campus, who preferably speak english...because you're gonna need at least one of them to "help you" translate what you say.
I'm already making some good friends.
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so, a lot of times at the clubs and pubs, I would start a conversation with a group of women in french...just go to a girl and randomly start speaking french to her. If they don't understand - They won't - ask them in english if they know english. A lot of them won't know english. in that case, your friend comes into play...he explain to the HB that you are french, don't speak portuguese and then he becomes your translator. You won't believe how interested they become...Since there's not a lot of french people in Brazil...HBs are gonna fight to get your attention and they'll let you kino them a lot more.
I usually open them "Oi, você fala inglês?"... If yes: "I've just came from France... bla bla" if no "então vou tentar em português... eu venho de chegar de França.."
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I'm serious..I've done it a lot of times in Brazil. I've made out with a of girls without even speaking my first language, portuguese. I would recommend you work on seduction techniques - Gambler's stuff is great - watch some of his videos.
I'm not into night game infortunately... But it is really easy to apply KINO here indeed! I've watched Gambler's videos too.
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If the HB you're interested in speaks english...it's even better cause then you can seduce her with french and tell them what you just said in english. Play a little hard to get though..don't tell them and give them right away what they want haha.

The only bad thing about this pick up technique is that you NEED a friend who can translate what you are saying at least in the beginning...after you isolate her, you won't need his help anymore..it will be all about seduction.
I speak Portuguese! :)
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One day i went to a pub with my cousin, and we only spoke in english...some girls would even open us to ask where we're from. Then I saw 2 HB8, and my friend introduced one to me as his french cousin. After some kino, everytime I spoke french to her, with my lips gently touching her ears, she would be like "ohhh that's making me crazyy" "so beautiful" "speak more french" (in portuguese)..what she didn't know is that I am brazilian hahaha.
Funny thing...she would say to her friend stuff like (in portuguese) "acho que vou abusar desse corpinho hoje" - "I think I'm going to abuse this body tonight".
and I would understand everything but had to act as if I didn't...really funny.
at the end..my cousin ended up taking her friend home, and my HB took me
to a motel. I wont need to tell the rest except that I had a great time acting like im the french gringo haha

Of course a lot of time I would game in portuguese...but speaking french makes it more successful and fun because they love it!
I should try to go undercover!
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Anyways man...just be creative...make friends who like to go clubbing, and ask them to be your translator. It works great!
For you it's even better because you are a real french hahaha...
not a fake like me (it was fun though)
Again, I'm not into night game for now :( But I'll come to it.
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What else can I tell you...brazilian women are really friendly. Just like any other women. They won't bring you down if you approach them...the worst that happened to me was have a HB ignore me when I approached her. that's about it.
Just be friendly and cool...make lots of friends....I'm sure you're confident when speaking french so just work on you voice tone, body language (watch gambler's video) and talk to HB in french. ask them to teach you some portuguese in exchange of french ;)
I love approaching in Day Game... they are soooo nice and smiling...
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Enjoy your time in Brazil and don't worry toooo much...just go for it and you'll get to meet, K-close and F-close a lot of HB in brazil

If you have any question man, just PM me or post it here.
I'll be glad to help you....although I am pretty new at this PUA stuff...most of my gaming came from my own mistakes and own experience back in Brazil.

Now I gotta worry about gaming in Canada..which is a lot harder in my opinion.

abracos.
Obrigado cara! I'll PM you in case of doubt!

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Btw Daniel..
what I'm going to tell you might sound lame..

but...

Try getting miss sunshine's MSN....in my own experience, texting doesn't really work well in Brazil...They usually exchange MSN and from there set up dates.

A lot of times I'd get a HB msn and then set up a date. Or you can just call her.
Yeah it doesn't work well indeed... Some of my friends receive my text one hour late... :p Crazy country!

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