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Hey Daniel nice result man!

You asked a few question on PUAChat. I'm by no means an expert of any kind. But I have the same drive and determination you do so these are just some of my ideas.

You mentioned still having a trouble introducing kino with strangers you have just met. Truth is you can do literally anything, it doesn't matter. It's all practice.

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Just as you hold out your hand to introduce yourself... 'Oh wow', (turn her hand over whilst still holding her hand)...'Nice nails...Did you get them done professionally?'

'Hi I'm Daniel... (hold out your hand) ... Oh wow, such soft hands, and here's me thinking you worked down a mine... (big grin.)

'Hi I'm Daniel... (Shake her hand... hold on for it a little longer then turn it around. Look at the lines on her palm... 'Hmmmmmm. You Know I can read palms.' Her: Why what is it??' You:'See this line here... It means your a retard for believing me.' (Then toss her hand away whilst giving her a cheeky grin.)

As she's crossing the road... Place your hand in the small of her back and guide her across the road.

Link arms as she's walking with you- 'You know I don't normally do this...but I thought I'd be cute... Just don't be getting any ideas ya know.' (Give her a sneaky smile.)

Walk her to a coffee shop. Sit down... 'Say you look the competitive type...Oh don't lie I know you are! C'mon...Thumb war... One...Two three four... I declare a thumb war. [Not sure how this would work in another language.] Then if you win get her to give you a kiss and point to your cheek. If she wins get her to give you a kiss point to your cheek hahaha!

Or you can play 'Rock, paper scissors.'

Or as you're walking... Grab her arm, 'OMG did you see that guy he almost ran over that poor girl, blah blah blah.

[As you are about to part ways]
Hey goodbye, lean in to kiss her on her cheek. 'You know... I'm French. That means I need a kiss on both cheeks. (Big smile) It's Ok... I'm greedy anyway.'


You see, there are soooo MANY ways you can run with this... It's all practise, just like opening and number closing... Practise, practise, practise. Just like Kasabi, said. How many guys out there CAN roll of five openers and number closes off the top of their heads???

YOU should be able to roll of kino moves just like that... It should be your 'bread and butter,' just like your openers.

In regards to the date thing yeah... Like I said. Don't BS her with some lame excuse,' Hey um...I need help to get directions to blah blah blah.'

She'll see through this a BS, just be upfront and confident and honest with her, like you were when you met.

'I wanna check _______ out. (Insert fun verbs here.) '

If there's anything I learned... Taking a high risk and putting yourself out there pays dividends. Tricking a girl into hanging out with you or begging always never worked.


Good luck on your journey man!

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Hahaha if you play your cards right you probably can laid man, I suggest you use this opener "I'm look for places to hang out" every time you see someone you want to talk to. Its easy and not harmful. Work on your escalation so that they don't see you as a random stranger, I would avoid adding them in Facebook because it's kinda cheesy let her add you its an IOI and you have her number anyways. But yeah work on cocky+ funny, teasing, DHV, and you got in the bag man.

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Also you can have a photo date, take picture of things throughout the date, of you or her or whatever. Also you can make it as a competition, if you win you get a kiss and if she wins she gets a hug. Tease her pictures and also take lots of pictures of her in it and tell her how dorky she looks. Be cocky+funny and say "Hey this one is really pretty, you know what you can be a model, your hands are really pretty, hey you can be a hand model!" "But since I gave you the idea you have to give me 90% of your earnings, you can use the rest for yourself."

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Very nice Daniel - really good.

It actually shows you're improving a lot. Good conversation - nice summarization of IOI's. She got something for you.. now build on it. :)

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Yes! I changed my plan a bit. I think I'll call her today (if I finally get a phone) and tell her that "I would like to know you better" and that I was planning to go to a park to take some picture: "would you like to come?"

If I actually get to see her, I'll focus on KINO escalation and cocky & funny. I'll play with the camera of course and take some picture of her/us.

I gotta make that real.

I'm also going out today to get more #-close. I need more options.

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Just as you hold out your hand to introduce yourself... 'Oh wow', (turn her hand over whilst still holding her hand)...'Nice nails...Did you get them done professionally?'
Yes! Actually I'm not affraid of introducing myself with a handshake since I'm not in France anymore. Nice for the "turn her hand"... I'll go for the French manucure actually.
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'Hi I'm Daniel... (hold out your hand) ... Oh wow, such soft hands, and here's me thinking you worked down a mine... (big grin.)
Why not, I see where you're going.
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'Hi I'm Daniel... (Shake her hand... hold on for it a little longer then turn it around. Look at the lines on her palm... 'Hmmmmmm. You Know I can read palms.' Her: Why what is it??' You:'See this line here... It means your a retard for believing me.' (Then toss her hand away whilst giving her a cheeky grin.)
The classic palm reading. I'll do it.
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As she's crossing the road... Place your hand in the small of her back and guide her across the road.

Link arms as she's walking with you- 'You know I don't normally do this...but I thought I'd be cute... Just don't be getting any ideas ya know.' (Give her a sneaky smile.)

Walk her to a coffee shop. Sit down... 'Say you look the competitive type...Oh don't lie I know you are! C'mon...Thumb war... One...Two three four... I declare a thumb war. [Not sure how this would work in another language.] Then if you win get her to give you a kiss and point to your cheek. If she wins get her to give you a kiss point to your cheek hahaha!

Or you can play 'Rock, paper scissors.'

Or as you're walking... Grab her arm, 'OMG did you see that guy he almost ran over that poor girl, blah blah blah.
Yes! I need to get these KINO habits. I have a littel notepad where I write openers, I'm now writing KINO situation. As Kasabi said, If I write them down, I'll learn them (projection) and I'll get used to do it.
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[As you are about to part ways]
Hey goodbye, lean in to kiss her on her cheek. 'You know... I'm French. That means I need a kiss on both cheeks. (Big smile) It's Ok... I'm greedy anyway.'
Did it actually. I went for a kiss, grab her by her waist with my right hand, kiss her on one cheek and she stepped back and notice I was going for another kiss. She noticed that I was surprised and told me they only do one kiss in Brazil. I laughed and told her I was French. I went for the other kiss on the chick.

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You see, there are soooo MANY ways you can run with this... It's all practise, just like opening and number closing... Practise, practise, practise. Just like Kasabi, said. How many guys out there CAN roll of five openers and number closes off the top of their heads???

YOU should be able to roll of kino moves just like that... It should be your 'bread and butter,' just like your openers.
Sure, my notepad really helps me on that.
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In regards to the date thing yeah... Like I said. Don't BS her with some lame excuse,' Hey um...I need help to get directions to blah blah blah.'

She'll see through this a BS, just be upfront and confident and honest with her, like you were when you met.

'I wanna check _______ out. (Insert fun verbs here.) '

If there's anything I learned... Taking a high risk and putting yourself out there pays dividends. Tricking a girl into hanging out with you or begging always never worked.
Yes. I'll be direct and offer her to go to a park with me so I can take some pictures and get to know her better.

Thanks for your help Tweeby.

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Hahaha if you play your cards right you probably can laid man, I suggest you use this opener "I'm look for places to hang out" every time you see someone you want to talk to. Its easy and not harmful. Work on your escalation so that they don't see you as a random stranger, I would avoid adding them in Facebook because it's kinda cheesy let her add you its an IOI and you have her number anyways. But yeah work on cocky+ funny, teasing, DHV, and you got in the bag man.
I'll use the opener today too and work on my sticking points: being C&F (been a lot funny though), build a sexual tension, KINO...

Too late for Facebook. She still has not answered to the friend request. Yet, I think it can be a good way to DHV: I've got some picture from Florida, Paris, ... She'll know where I'm studying and where I worked.

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OMG you are French she study French, in my experience you already have a lay.

Sexual escalation for the k-close: start telling her "dirty" word in french, she might not know.

Like start with anatomical part and introduce kino: knee, elbow, shoulder, cheek, hair, etc. If she knows french enought and she knows those words, make the inverse game: you touch a part of her body and she have to tell you the french translation (dont tell her you want to do this game, just touch her elbow and say:"do you know the french word for this?" )

If you feel confident, you can start touching, VERY softly eyes, lips, and then just say tongue, saliva. Ask if she knows transaltion of kiss, making out, french kiss, petting, cuttling, it is very important eye contact, kino, and voice delivery at this point.
If you look at her and speak slowly (she has to learn, so triple the length of every word), kino her and speak sexy... She will feel aroused and you can go for the kiss close.

Then, after the kiss close, you can even start with preliminary, nipples, cunnilingus, blowjob, fuck, doggystyle, anal etc etc

P.S. If you want to go super slow and read the signal she gives you step by step, this is the sequence: start from the finger names.
Thumbs, index finger, medium finger,ring finger, pinkie finger, hand, wrist, underarm, elbow, arm, biceps, triceps, shoulder, clavicola, neck, jaw,chin, cheeck, nose, lips, BOOM! K-close


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Quick update.

I could not buy a sim card yesterday so I could not contact my #-close. I had to move my stuff in my new room.

Today's program:

1) Buy a sim card so I can text and call her.
I think I'll text her something like: "Hey, here's my phone number. Let's start our French/Portuguese lesson. Daniel (the handsome French guy)". I'll wait for her to answer and tell her that I'll call her this evening to make this happen.

2) Sarge. I'm going out to find a way to go downtown today. I was a bit affraid of taking a bus here since they are real shit (no schedule, you don't know how long yu have to wait) but whatever. In the worse case, I get lost... I get a cab. I'll write a report for tonight. My goal will be to try a # close each time. Maybe I'll go direct. I'm taking my camera with me.

Let's make this happen.

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DAY 39: follow-up on my number close.
Let's make this real.

I'm in São Paulo for two days and have a decent opportunity with a cute Brazilian girl I number closed the first day. I bought a sim card so I can text and call her but still don't have a number. I'll get one tonight.

Interacting on Facebook.
I've added her on Facebook. She told me to do it when we first met. I thought that was a bit cheesy at the beginning but that was a good idea actually. My Facebook account allows me to DHV: I have some pictures of Paris, others in New York, Florida... :) Plus she could see in which school I'm going in and where I worked.
All that to say that she actually accepted the friend request and left a message on my wall. As she was connected I spoke a little with her through the chat. She is showing me great IOIs again:
- asking for my number
- asking me why I choose this operator and not another one (hers)
- asking me if I was going to the university tomorrow...
Well I do think I have a good opportunity here but I have to be careful about three things.

Let's be careful.
1) I CAN'T SHOW HER TOO MUCH INTEREST: she has to be the one chasing me, I have to be the prize. I tried to do some push pull thing, I have to keep that going when I'll see her. I have to try to bring other girls to the picture too. Competion would be great.

2) I HAVE TO AVOID ONE-ITIS: I really like her... I've stumbled upon really nice photos on her Facebook. Plus she seems to be smart and have several stuff that I actually really like (she plays handball, speak a little French, she's 20...).

3) I HAVE TO CALM THE FUCK DOWN: before, I was struggling with negative thinking. Meditation and The Power of Now really helped me on that. But truth is, I also have to be careful about the other side of my mental: I have to stop thinking about her and projecting myself. That's silly. I have nothing for now. I can't afford wasting opportunities because my ego needs to some comfort.

Actually, she might have a boyfriend... who knows? I really have to relax a little and find other options. I'm repeating AFC behaviors here. I'll get friendzoned or disappointed in the end.

Sarging.
I went out this morning to sarge but it was really hard to get where I wanted by bus. I got a bit lost but that was ok, I finally got where I wanted but the streets were slow as hell. Guess people where sleeping. I came back home to eat.
I went out again the afternoon and went to a mall. That was better and FULL of fucking top models. Actually the cheapest brand in there was Louis Vuitton... Welcome to the upper class of São Paulo. The level was high but strangely, I could find only couples and girls with their mothers... That was strange.
Anyway, I'm slowly getting used to the city and I'll be quickly able to do classic sarging session with goals and all. Like in France, I'll get out every day if I need to. Classes only begin the 16th.

What's next?
- Get a damn number, text her my number and try to get her to come with me at the mall I've been this afternoon: lot's of French brands, cool places to have a drink... I won't try harder than this though since it's valentine day, don't show too much interest either.
- Sarge! Sarge! I'll go out on tomorrow morning to a mall probably and if I don't see her, I'll do it all day long.

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AFC Daniel,

Good points you make here. You are right. It could turn into the friendzone.

Call her up ASAP and get this moving forward.

Just one thing:-
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I CAN'T SHOW HER TOO MUCH INTEREST: she has to be the one chasing me, I have to be the prize.
This is not the time to FREEZE her out or pretend like you don't care...

Her attraction switches are flipped on to high mode. You number closed her in the day. She'll be telling all her friends about this confident guy she just met in the street. This is the time you need to ACT.

Call her tomorrow. Pencil it in your diary.

Don't be the guy who had their EGO massaged by a number close, then failed to do anything about it. You can't rest until you and this girl are locking lips... And timing has everything to do with this one.

Not to scare you, but I number closed this girl in the day, who basically told me I was her ideal type... What happened? I ended up in the friend zone because I took too long to action... Don't be THAT guy. Don't be afraid to lose her, because doing that you WILL actually lose her.

Breathe...Relax...Go...go...go.

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1) I CAN'T SHOW HER TOO MUCH INTEREST: she has to be the one chasing me, I have to be the prize. I tried to do some push pull thing, I have to keep that going when I'll see her. I have to try to bring other girls to the picture too. Competion would be great.

2) I HAVE TO AVOID ONE-ITIS: I really like her... I've stumbled upon really nice photos on her Facebook. Plus she seems to be smart and have several stuff that I actually really like (she plays handball, speak a little French, she's 20...).

3) I HAVE TO CALM THE FUCK DOWN: before, I was struggling with negative thinking. Meditation and The Power of Now really helped me on that. But truth is, I also have to be careful about the other side of my mental: I have to stop thinking about her and projecting myself. That's silly. I have nothing for now. I can't afford wasting opportunities because my ego needs to some comfort.

Actually, she might have a boyfriend... who knows? I really have to relax a little and find other options. I'm repeating AFC behaviors here. I'll get friendzoned or disappointed in the end.

I suggest capitalizing on cocky + funny, kino, teasing, and push/pull tactics whenever you go out with this girl because it sets you out from the rest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRkDu0Y_ ... 7&index=19

analyze the video, it will save your life!!

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AFC Daniel,

Good points you make here. You are right. It could turn into the friendzone.

Call her up ASAP and get this moving forward.

Just one thing:-
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I CAN'T SHOW HER TOO MUCH INTEREST: she has to be the one chasing me, I have to be the prize.
This is not the time to FREEZE her out or pretend like you don't care...

Her attraction switches are flipped on to high mode. You number closed her in the day. She'll be telling all her friends about this confident guy she just met in the street. This is the time you need to ACT.

Call her tomorrow. Pencil it in your diary.

Don't be the guy who had their EGO massaged by a number close, then failed to do anything about it. You can't rest until you and this girl are locking lips... And timing has everything to do with this one.

Not to scare you, but I number closed this girl in the day, who basically told me I was her ideal type... What happened? I ended up in the friend zone because I took too long to action... Don't be THAT guy. Don't be afraid to lose her, because doing that you WILL actually lose her.

Breathe...Relax...Go...go...go.
You're right Tweeby. I have to pull myself together. I have to act right now.
Let's be honnest, I'm affraid of being disappointed here, but one thing is sure, I'll end up breing disappointed anyway if I do nothing.

Fuck it. Doing it.

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1) I CAN'T SHOW HER TOO MUCH INTEREST: she has to be the one chasing me, I have to be the prize. I tried to do some push pull thing, I have to keep that going when I'll see her. I have to try to bring other girls to the picture too. Competion would be great.

2) I HAVE TO AVOID ONE-ITIS: I really like her... I've stumbled upon really nice photos on her Facebook. Plus she seems to be smart and have several stuff that I actually really like (she plays handball, speak a little French, she's 20...).

3) I HAVE TO CALM THE FUCK DOWN: before, I was struggling with negative thinking. Meditation and The Power of Now really helped me on that. But truth is, I also have to be careful about the other side of my mental: I have to stop thinking about her and projecting myself. That's silly. I have nothing for now. I can't afford wasting opportunities because my ego needs to some comfort.

Actually, she might have a boyfriend... who knows? I really have to relax a little and find other options. I'm repeating AFC behaviors here. I'll get friendzoned or disappointed in the end.

I suggest capitalizing on cocky + funny, kino, teasing, and push/pull tactics whenever you go out with this girl because it sets you out from the rest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRkDu0Y_ ... 7&index=19

analyze the video, it will save your life!!
I've started doing it in the interaction we had on Facebook.

HER- tomorrow you are going to university?
ME - nope why?
ME - I'm supposed to start the 16th at 9:30
HER - ahh, I guess that only brazilians have to go tomorrow because they need to the the inscription
ME - okay
ME - your problem though ^^
HER - hahahaha yes

(about cellphone)
HER - and you have to go to vivo? (Vivo = phone operator)
ME - no why? what's yours?
HER - it's claro
ME - hmmm I see
HER - but there is no problem
ME - you want me to take claro so you can call me often right?
ME - french lesson by phone NO WAY lol
HER - hahahahahaha nooo i thought that you had to go to the vivo's office, and it's really boring
ME - but you can teach me french too hahahaha dany, i have to go now, but when I go out with my friends I'll take you with me, and you can meet some other people ok? [Vous] 14:11 why not but before leaving no forget about it I gotta go too, I'll try to go to the mall in Faria Lima hope it's cool you know how to contact me now au revoir

(leaving)
HER - daniel, i have to go now, but when I go out with my friends I'll take you with me, and you can meet some other people ok?
ME -why not
ME - but before leaving
ME - no forget about it (hoping that she'll say something, but did not)

Damn I gotta take her out.

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1) I CAN'T SHOW HER TOO MUCH INTEREST: she has to be the one chasing me, I have to be the prize. I tried to do some push pull thing, I have to keep that going when I'll see her. I have to try to bring other girls to the picture too. Competion would be great.

2) I HAVE TO AVOID ONE-ITIS: I really like her... I've stumbled upon really nice photos on her Facebook. Plus she seems to be smart and have several stuff that I actually really like (she plays handball, speak a little French, she's 20...).

3) I HAVE TO CALM THE FUCK DOWN: before, I was struggling with negative thinking. Meditation and The Power of Now really helped me on that. But truth is, I also have to be careful about the other side of my mental: I have to stop thinking about her and projecting myself. That's silly. I have nothing for now. I can't afford wasting opportunities because my ego needs to some comfort.

Actually, she might have a boyfriend... who knows? I really have to relax a little and find other options. I'm repeating AFC behaviors here. I'll get friendzoned or disappointed in the end.

I suggest capitalizing on cocky + funny, kino, teasing, and push/pull tactics whenever you go out with this girl because it sets you out from the rest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRkDu0Y_ ... 7&index=19

analyze the video, it will save your life!!
I've started doing it in the interaction we had on Facebook.

HER- tomorrow you are going to university?
ME - nope why?
ME - I'm supposed to start the 16th at 9:30
HER - ahh, I guess that only brazilians have to go tomorrow because they need to the the inscription
ME - okay
ME - your problem though ^^
HER - hahahaha yes

(about cellphone)
HER - and you have to go to vivo? (Vivo = phone operator)
ME - no why? what's yours?
HER - it's claro
ME - hmmm I see
HER - but there is no problem
ME - you want me to take claro so you can call me often right?
ME - french lesson by phone NO WAY lol
HER - hahahahahaha nooo i thought that you had to go to the vivo's office, and it's really boring
ME - but you can teach me french too hahahaha dany, i have to go now, but when I go out with my friends I'll take you with me, and you can meet some other people ok? [Vous] 14:11 why not but before leaving no forget about it I gotta go too, I'll try to go to the mall in Faria Lima hope it's cool you know how to contact me now au revoir

(leaving)
HER - daniel, i have to go now, but when I go out with my friends I'll take you with me, and you can meet some other people ok?
ME -why not
ME - but before leaving
ME - no forget about it (hoping that she'll say something, but did not)

Damn I gotta take her out.
All good except for the end...

Three words:

"Take the Lead."

Daniel, you keep looking for more IOI's so when you ask her out it will be less risky. This in itself is RISKY because this is the exact behaviour that keeps AFCs in the friend-zone...Stop pussy-footing around!

Dude she's just a 20 year old girl. Throw her that curve-ball now!

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Daniel!

It took a while, but I have read the entireity of your journal/field report in the last two days. It is practically a mirror image of my recent endevours, minus a few f-closes :) you don't have to heed what I say, Hobbit and Kasabi are ON TOP OF SHIT and if they disagree with me, I hope to read about it...I am going to comment.

1) You're damn smart, damn witty and damn honest, you come by this honestly
2) You are humble enough to admit your fears and open enough to tell strangers about them
3) You understand human interaction
4) you're attractive enough to generate interest with just your appearance and solid body language
5) These traits are GOING TO GET YOU LAID

So, apprehension is your biggest enemy right now. Nothing wrong with liking this girl, even if it is a lot. You need to make sure you let her know about your like and your lust in equal parts! Try to offset every "friendly" or "helpful" thing you say or do (Kino, body language, context of convo) with something that implies your sexual interest as well. I am a lot like you, it is hard to imply the lust covertly, but the friendliness comes naturally. The implication at the end of your convo's with this girl need to be balanced so as to not push it in either direction. I have fucked a lot of chances up with my nature and have more friends than notches in my belt, but recently, that is changing.

If you do push it in a direction, which direction better suits your values and desires? Ya, I would want to fuck her too :)

Think back to the old friends that you used initally to build confidence...the nature of the most helpful convo's were in a balanced, or slightly more sexual context. Don't over think it, act intrisinctly, let your natural charm flow. Just couple this charm with a sexual deameanor. Kino escalate while saying what you feel like saying. Look at her lips when you are talking about your camera, be honest about how beautiful you think she is. EYE FUCK THE HELL OUT OF HER WHILE YOU TALK ABOUT HOW HOT YOUR COFFEE IS! I think you get the point :)

It never hurts to use canned conversations at times, if they fit the context. But overall, your body language and internal arousal can do most of the work, you got over the shyness and you have always been interesting. She will be hanging off of every word.

One fantastic option to move into a sexual frame is to talk about how happy you are to have met a female presence during your travels, of course you had your doubts, and of course you WANTED to meet a girl in brazil. This will directly let her know that you think of her as a woman, and yourself a man, and all that implies, without you having to say anything too direct. Say it with your hot-cup-of-coffee- eye-fucking going on, and she will get the message ten fold!

In a nutshell, speaking from my recently developed transition of a number closing, kiss goodbye and intimate conversationalist persona to the guy girls want to fuck, you have all the tools. ALL OF THEM, in fact, you have more personal power and reason for inner game than you can imagine. YOU WILL GET THE F-CLOSE or fucking fail trying. If you try. Either way, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Strong rapport will build comfort, strong sexual tension will get you attraction. You know you have to Rapport down, Rather than thinking about what to say, think about all orgasms you're going to give this girl.

The comment about not freezing her out is a good one, she needs to feel like you like her. BUT, as you know, she does not want to feel like you need her. So, let her know you think she is interesting, but don't let her know it while you have the look of falling in love on your face(fuck, that one right there took some work for me, damn AFCISMs), look like you admire her for it. Let her know she is Attractive, but take the time to look around the room at other women, the waitress. This girl doesn't OWN you, you don't OWN her, But you OWN yourself. She comments on you checking out other girls (It took me a while to figure out how to not backpedal on this one, it happens a lot, girls are overly jealous) say you admire beauty. Comment that her beauty was why you decided to ask for her number in the first place. In your mind, the fact that she is WORTHY of your intellectual interest is a very pleasant surprise. (Don't say worthy, girls don't like that...Imply it takes effort and talent to impress you...yeah, I've made all the mistakes)

Alot of this you already know, Im just re affirming that you are right and it WILL work.

Anyways, Thats my two cents, BEST OF LUCK.
Long post, I'm not sorry :)


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