Recently with a day 2 with an hb7 I did an excellent job of escalated kino (actually she initiated most of it), went to a quiet bar. Earlier we kissed and then she pulled back, not sure why. I played it off like it didn't bother me. We had a great time, eventually went back to my place that night (apparently my response worked). From here I'm thinking operation F-CLOSE!

Now let me say something the easiest way to get an f-close is a massage. Almost all kinds of touching go, and boys, it's worth it to get some massage cream. So we gave eachother massages and we made out for like 15 minutes but I never went down on her. I instead just tried taking off her pants and of course she stopped me and kept wanting to kiss me. I also never pulled back which I think could have helped. Granted this is the 2nd time we went out together and I know most girls probably don't have sex on the first or second date but I feel like had the opportunity.

Here's where I need your help, give me some ideas on how to close out on day 3. And better yet considering I've NEVER been in a situation where I hooked up with a girl that wasn't my girlfriend I don't know when (if) should I even contact her and how soon should a day 3 be???




And to provide some background, I don't know what her intentions are. She made suggestions to meet the next day and I kind of brushed them off (not happening, I'm a busy guy, neediness is a weakness i need to improve on). She also mentioned a few times how she wants me to meet her parents. However, she told me she doesn't want to be in a relationship... mixed signals

I do not want to be in a relationship myself. However, my huge weakness is ONEITIS. Deep down I feel needy!!! The day after I'm worried about what her perception is of me and I know it shouldn't matter. It's as if I would just settle with her just because I know I would get attention without actually having to work for it.

It sounds like you are doing everything right fearless123.

You were not phased when she pulled back, brushing off her suggestions to meet the next day, perfect. Whatever you do, do not loose that mind set.

Don't put to much emphasis on laying this girl or you will loose focus and your ONEITIS tendencies will start to come back. Keep moving forward with the right frame and that deep needy feeling will go away. I would suggest trying to game other women or keep yourself busy so this girl does not become the center of your world (a big mistake guys make).

Let her continue with her mixed signals, who cares. Remember it's just a GAME to keep you guessing. Women play these adolescent games to test the men they are with, or interested in. If you can keep your cool and keep the frame, you can't loose.

Personally, I would wait a day or 2 before contacting her again. Communicate that you have a life outside of her. When you see her again, act like nothing happened and regame her. Don't get over excited and try to pick up where you left off (massages, kisses, etc.) In fact, don't even bring it up, don't mention the kissing and massage....let her do that.

_________________
Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. - Robert Greene

Great advice by Sinful, I would have posted along those lines.

So many other chicks to game, get out there and do it, see her when it suits you.

It's so good that you know your one-itis problem, in terms of falling for women, so the way around it, have more than one option, unless you do want a serious relationship.

_________________
Been there, done it, oh and still doing it!

: Blog entries@ http://kennyspuathoughts.wordpress.com/

Perfect help boys

I'm stuck though oneitis is already showing its face! You see, when I went on first date with this chick I was an AFC, never read the game or knew what pua was. We had excellent chemistry so I assumed this chick really liked me so I started making myself too available, you know what happened? Didn't hear from her in 2 weeks and if it wasn't for me and PUA I probably still wouldn't have


A few days ago I read the game and started talking to every chick. I got a few numbers and chatted with a couple and even had the confidence to say 'screw it, let me see if this works on hb7 (this chick)'. Sure enough it did scored a date and you know what happened.

Now I'm proud of myself which I deserve to be but I'm already putting her on a pedestal. It's like I no longer have desire to talk to the other girls I was talking to before we went out. I don't know why I think like this but I do. The excitement of a relationship and something new is intriguing but I know I'll get tired of it so I know I should stay away from it.


I'm going to not contact her for a day or two and when I do should I try to make conversation or make plans again? Thing is we never had an actual conversation. All of our communication thus far outside of face to face has been about plans and reving up excitement for them. It's obvious this girl is attracted to the fun, carefree me... not the needy guy who will do whatever for her.

Finally, because something already happened does this typically mean it's already understood it will happen so long as day 3 goes smoothly? In other words is it easier? lol


P.S. THANK YOU sinful for saying about what not to mention and to act like how I did before anything went down. I honest to god would have tried to leave where I left off or talk about massages and shit like that... thank you and I see why that's bad.

Fearless, don't contact her for a few days as you suggested, I bet you, she will contact you by thursday evening. If she doesn't, give her a short call or text " Hey, you been alright?, I'm around your area on 'X' day, if you fancy hooking up, give me a shout"

Keep it short, not needy, and ball in her court.

It's evident she had fun before, so I doubt she will refuse ...

_________________
Been there, done it, oh and still doing it!

: Blog entries@ http://kennyspuathoughts.wordpress.com/

Relax fearless123, don't get anxious. As Chelios pointed out, you identified the areas that need work, that's a huge step. Keep your frame and relax, it will work out.

_________________
Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. - Robert Greene

Right on man.... she's already texted me about being embarassed for eating my last granola bar. You were right

Excellent...

she's already texted me about being embarassed for eating my last granola bar.

My response....'now you owe me a granola bar and a lap dance.'

_________________
Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. - Robert Greene

Ok and we ended up sending text messages all day yesterday. Maybe like 1 every 2 hours and I never initated them. She sent me one and I would comment on it and then she'd send me one with another topic and I'd comment. I ended up sending the last text.


We did not chat at all today. Here's the thing, it may not be oneitis but I actually may be falling for this girl. She is great after getting to know she's now more like an hb8.5...To keep me busy I asked a few girls out but they happened to be unavailable.


I would like to go out with her maybe on friday but how long should I wait to see if she texts me again or should I go for it now and see what she's doing, or maybe wait until tomorrow to ask??

I know I didn't Fclose but she's certainly interested. I know she's interested by the fact she texted me early the next afternoon and continued chat throughout the day and by the way she looked at me, kissed me and talked about her family. She even asked me about my ex of the last 2 years. If she was looking for something else she wouldn't have done that. We were drinking but like what Style said alcohol doesn't make people do things that they wouldn't WANT to do sober.

By the way, she did mention the massage and how I should be achiorpactor hahaha You were right once again.


Problem is, if I am right I don't want to look like a dick who doesn't know what he wants. I want to go out with her again but when/how do I do it without looking like I completely fell for her.

I went ahead and texted her anyway seeing if she's free and to let me know if she's down to visit a restaurant near me. There's a difference between chasing and pursuing. We'll see how this goes.

Good for realising that bro. A bit of persistence is a good thing, over doing it is chasing, which your not doing, your just curious to see if she's free to hang out again, I think she'll say yeah anyway!

_________________
Been there, done it, oh and still doing it!

: Blog entries@ http://kennyspuathoughts.wordpress.com/

Ok she told me "she loves sushi but she already made plans "


Now I hate it when girls do this and it really is where my inner game deteriorates because it causes me to think!!! If she's interested why doesn't she suggest another day?

When I asked her for a day 2 last month she told me she wasnt available on the day I tried to make plans so I asked her when she was free and no response. I am not making that mistake again.


We have yet to go out on a weekend, should I be worried about this or just make plans with her during the week again?

Also, I know Style mentions this in the game. What is the urgency that I see this girl again, should it be within a certain time or the spark begins to fade away? Or is it true abscense will make her want me more.

Wouldn't it look lame if i ask her about a friday and then after she declines ask her about saturday too?

It's like my frame went to shit because I'm afraid of saying the wrong thing.

Fuck her man.

Don't ask her out on a saturday if she refuses a friday, especially if it's happened before!

Make plans yourself for the saturday, another date, or go out, game some women, life's to short!

Freeze time again, see if she gets in touch, if she does, keep it short and sweet, and don't reply straight away, let her wonder.

_________________
Been there, done it, oh and still doing it!

: Blog entries@ http://kennyspuathoughts.wordpress.com/

exactly... I responded we would have had fun.... oh well next time.


She then responded with her entire plans for that night and said she's sorry. It seemed genuine so I told her no need to be sorry.. just saying you dont know what youre missing out on..

then i asked her to give me a few nights she is available and we'll work something out.



balls in her court now. I truly believe she's interested, just lacks the common sense to say hey but what are you doing on day x?? haha.


thanks for the help man I think I got this from here.

Mistake bro, don't say, you don't need to be sorry, because next time she may not apologize if it happens again. Should have just said, your going to miss a great night .

I disagree with her lacking common sense, she's just being difficult, if interested, there are 7 days in a week, with 24 hours per day, she should make some time.

Let her come to you now.

If she comes back with say " I'm free on tuesday at ... X pm" say okay kool, should be alright, but I'll confirm tomorrow, I have a busy next 6 days or so, should be kool though"

_________________
Been there, done it, oh and still doing it!

: Blog entries@ http://kennyspuathoughts.wordpress.com/